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Offline Soos

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custom speedo housing questions
« on: February 03, 2009, 07:55:51 AM »
I'm making a housing for a ninja speedo(to match with the ninja front rim) for my cb650 parts project.


I'm kinda stuck with either 1 of 2 options.
One is to keep the trip odometer mechanism(it un-screws)
OR pull out the trip odometer.


If I pull the trip odometer mechanism though, I want to try to use those 4 little windows the trip odometer milage showed through as the neutral light, high beam light, and indicator lights (left and right)
IF I do this, I will have to use colored LED's. I'm no whiz at electronics, but I think it could work.

Any online resources anyone knows of for hooking up LED's, or custom speedo projects that have done the same(or similar)?


The fact I have never worked with LED's is my only worry with doing this.




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Re: custom speedo housing questions
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2009, 08:11:39 AM »
LED's are nothing to be scared of. You can do it, just remember they are diodes, so check your polarity twice before hooking them up or soldering any connections it will save a lot of headaches. Get some cheap ones at the local radio shack and experiment a little, maybe even pop a few bucks for a little plug in style breadboard to mock up some different circuits.

When you are ready to do your final build, get some nice quality LED's from somewhere like superbrightleds.com or Custom Dynamics, because the cheaper LEDs are really hard to see in direct sunlight.

The bigger thing I would worry about would be messing up the speedo while you are trying to stick in the idjit lights if it is a mechanical speedo.
Post a pic of what the Ninja gauge looks like and maybe someone will have a cool idea.
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Re: custom speedo housing questions
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2009, 08:23:58 AM »
LED's are pretty simple.  You need to know a few things:

1. They are polarity-sensitive, meaning that unlike a normal bulb, they care about which wire goes to + and -.

2. They are current-sensitive, meaning that

a) as long as the voltage is above a certain minimum they will light up regardless of what the voltage actually is; and
b) the more current that goes through them the brighter they are, until too much current when they become permanently dark.

LED's of different colours usually will have different "forward drops" (the minimum voltage) and different brightnesses for specified currents and different maximum currents.

Typical auto use is to run a resistor in series with the LED to limit current; it can get fancier, but for an indicator that'll be fine.

Most of this stuff is easily found on the web.  I'd get a few LED's of the colours needed, and hook 'em up to a 12volt battery in series with both a  200-ohm resistor and a small variable resistor ("potentiometer"), something around 1Kohms if I could get it.  Using a resistor and a pot for each LED I'd twiddle the pots and measure with a meter until

a) none of 'em had currents too big
b) they all looked the same brightness.

then I'd disconnect the battery and measure the resistor+pot combined for each LED, and use that value for the resistor in the final set-up.

LED's are cheap so get a few extra in case you burn one or two up.

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Re: custom speedo housing questions
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2009, 09:25:56 AM »
You guys got it right.
Now check this out.
http://www.instructables.com/tag/?q=led+making&limit%3Atype%3Aid=on&type%3Aid=on&type%3Auser=on&type%3Acomment=on&type%3Agroup=on&type%3AforumTopic=on&sort=none
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Re: custom speedo housing questions
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2009, 09:52:55 AM »
and whe you get bored you can do this with your mouse...
http://www.instructables.com/id/SBAQ2KJF0YPF7MG/

or throwie led rats, good to gross out all the girls with!....I want one...

http://www.instructables.com/id/LED-Throwie-Rat-or-Mouse/
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Re: custom speedo housing questions
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2009, 10:38:21 AM »
Theres a clearance outlet (Ollies) near by and a few years ago they had a bunch of LED tag mounting bolts, LED Windshield squirter things and Misc. LED stuff and I got a bunch of them to play with.
   I ended up getting a bunch of them in different colors and taking them apart an using the LED's seperately in my "Black Bomber" inspired gauge assembly. There are 4 LED's=
 1) Neutral 2)Turns 3) High Beam 4) Aux. Lights.
 I took a peice of plastic and mouted the LED's in and it is mounted to the back of the face (Pic is an old one with the Plastic LED holder taped in place). It now has 2 small screws holding it in place throught the gauge face.
 I really didnt have to do anything to get the LED's to work correctly as they were already set up to be a bolt on to a 12 volt system (they had a resister built in the wire). I ended up filing down the tops to distribute the light of the LED's as they were more like a laser pointer and would "disappear" if they werent looked at head on.


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Re: custom speedo housing questions
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2009, 01:02:12 PM »
That's the key to taking all the guess work out of it Fishhead just like you said 12v ready, if you look at the website I listed they show how to facet the top of the led like a gemstone for a different lighting effect, that's cool what you came up with. We are doing ground breaking led sign work here at my work that is unreal. So unreal that when all the engineers went to the Led class from the manufacturer that they were baffled as to what we were able to accomplish with them. Can't say much more or I will be killed and then fired. :P :P
JCwhitney has a wide assortment of led's that are ready to mount up, even small enough setup's that you can probably tank them apart and make up what you want.
Make sure you get the good german leds if buying separatly, don't go for the cheapo chinese.
I would also reccomend that all who want to get into it needs to lookup that Instructables website there is soooooo much good information there, more than just led's.
Look at this one I just found on JCwhitney, they say that they have a replacement 1157 led for the brake light. Its listed for a Haundai I think but it would work...

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-100000376676/mediaCode-ZX/appId-11516046/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:10000037667611516046
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