Topic: Stupid bikers, are you one?

[dusterdude]

damn,right there,they just talked themselves out of the helmet argument.

[Gordon]

Road rash alone can kill you if you get enough of it, just the same as burns from a fire.

[eldar]

I am not saying anything against a jacket but leather is not the material of choice anymore as there are materials that protect better at less weight and fit better.

I am just saying that if you get hit by a car, most people die anyways. Getting broadsided at 30 mph is more than likely going to do you in.

My main point is that a jacket is good on the hyways and in cooler weather. In hot weather, it will bind and overheat you and potentially cause more trouble than good. I will get a jacket too sometime this winter but it will not be a leather, it will be a racing style because they offer better protection and also have padding in the elbows, shoulders, and back that leather does not have.

Again, I am not against jackets but just like any tool, they are not always useable depending on conditions.

[eldar]

One final thing, you can still get road rash while wearing leather or denim! Ever gotten a good scrape and your jeans are just fine?

[Gordon]

Take a deep breath, and count to ten... 

[eldar]

Like I said, I DO see a need for jackets. I am only saying that in 90 degree stop/go you will overheat faster than your bike cause if you open the jacket too far, then it wont do much. Nothing more than that.

[seaweb11]

enough already....go feed the cows or go to the bar or .............anything but this..............

[bike54]

enough already....go feed the cows or go to the bar or .............anything but this..............

i agree after following this part of the discussion i think it boils down to what your happy in (personal choice)

merv 

[eldar]

As them old ladies say   BINGO

[bryanj]

Of course i am astupid biker I got a garage full of bits to build several 500's and no time or money!!!!

[Einyodeler]

I keep saying I`m not going to buy another expensive leather riding jacket but then I see a nice one and go ahead buy it and sure enough the E.M.T.`s cut it up into little pieces again

[DRam]

What happened to the stupid biker stories?   

[DammitDan]

I ran into the ditch going 45mph around a backroads curve.

It was 2 days before I was supposed to take my riders course.  I didn't have a M classification on my license.  I didn't have insurance.  I was wearing a cheap modular full-face that flew off my head (even though it was tightly strapped) before I hit the ground, a white short sleeve undershirt, not-so-tight jeans, no gloves and a pair of low-rise shoes.  Needless to say, I was ripped up, and I didn't even touch the pavement!  I couldn't walk by myself for 3 days, and I oozed for about 2 weeks.  How's that for a stupid biker story?

Thank GOD the bike was already tagged.

$680 ticket for no insurance or M class on the license.  THE COP WAITED IN THE ER FOR ME TO REGAIN CONSCIOUSNESS TO SIGN THE TICKET WHILE I WAS STRAPPED TO A SPINEBOARD FOR 5 HOURS  . 

Got the tickets dropped after taking the riders course 2 months later and buying $80/yr liability insurance.  The cop didn't believe me when I told him I could get insurance so cheap (while I was bloody and lying on the spineboard, no less).  I think he thought I was delierious after the wreck.

[DammitDan]

I'm not sure... There was a lady standing at her kitchen window and saw me going around the curve, come off the bike, and saw the helmet come off before I hit the ground.

It was a full-face that could flip the chin up, but it didn't have a positive locking mechanism (I.E. PLASTIC HOOKS instead of metal).  The cop found it in the woods and brought it to me, and I remember the face being flipped up, and how that was odd because I had been riding with it locked down.  The only thing I can imagine is the wind caught under the chin, flipped the face up, and pulled it off my head backwards.

We tested this later, and the helmet could indeed could come off with the face flipped up and the chin strap tight (we didn't even have to wrestle with it).  Don't ever buy a VCan modular helmet... You might get your head knocked off!

[74cb750]

Hey El ...Loco,
the helmet is garunteed to stay on if you wear it backwards.
This might negate the warrenty ifyou fall though.
Contact a lawyer, he would know for sure.
 

Stupid Biker: tell your date at her door as you are helping her with her helmet,
about the Idiot whom ran you off the road into the bridge/sidewalk..........
and the Idiot turns out to be her dad

michel

[Killer Canary]

I got caught doing 176 km/hr on my CBR once. Just a ticket wouldn't do it that time, the government was out to get my license for dangerous driving. I fought it in court and the whole thing got thrown out.

[74cb750]

Hey Canary,
see? if you had been on your sohc, that would have never happened.

Who was your lawyer? ie, why did it get thrown out of court?
michel

[Killer Canary]

I got a rookie lawyer and we convinced the judge that with my 30 years of scrape-free riding experience, Ihadn't actually endangered anyone simply by going 176 km/hr.
But I did book off work the next day to hard-wire in a radar detector. That's been the end of it for four years now.

[Dennis]

But I did book off work the next day to hard-wire in a radar detector.

I know that they (radar detectors) are illegal in Ontario. Aren't they illegal anywhere in Canada?
I hope it is well hidden.
I also hope that you have one of the type that the radar detector detectors cannot sense.

I was riding with a friend in Virginia (where they are also illegal) and we got picked out of a pack of cars because he was running a radar detector - it was an older model that apparently puts out a pretty strong signal.

[Gordon]

I thought radar detectors were passive, as in they only "detect" the signals sent out by a radar gun, but don't actually send out any signals of their own.  Now radar Jammers, on the other hand, are a different story.

[Killer Canary]

Here in Saskatchewan, detectors have always been legal so I don't bother hiding them.
I removed the LEDs and used a computer ribbon to move them up to the dash(right next to the speedo, heh heh) and put myself into the habit of scanning the display every few seconds.
The rest of the detector I sealed in plastic and built a sub-frame for, so that it sits just below the front fairing; hard to see even if you know it's there.
On the Canary it was as simple as fixing the detector to the fairing dash between the instruments with double sided foam tape.
Detectors produce their own RF as a by-product of their operation which can be detected.
Anyway, it's a cash cow for our various governments.

[Bob Wessner]

This reminds me of years ago when I used a detector when I owned a Camero. It didn't detect the "officer" who spotted me speeding.  I pulled over to the shoulder to await the obligatory ticket. As the police car came to a stop behind me, my radar detector suddenly stopped functioning, never to work again. I decided the cops had "fry it switch" in their cruisers to turn detectors into crispy critters.  Never bothered with detectors again, figured 10 over was fast enough and they leave you alone if you stay within that.

[Dennis]

I thought radar detectors were passive, as in they only "detect" the signals sent out by a radar gun, but don't actually send out any signals of their own. Now radar Jammers, on the other hand, are a different story.

Gordon
I was going to respond to your question but Killer Canary was a little faster.

Detectors produce their own RF as a by-product of their operation which can be detected.

To expand a little, you are corect in that they don't actually transmit a signal to function. As stated previously they do produce an RF signal in normal operation which can be detected by the so called "radar detector - detectors".