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fire_strom

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Good jets in a Carb Kit?
« on: November 21, 2008, 02:51:34 PM »
Hi all, first post here.  I am about to have a 76 CB750f that sat for a couple of yeas with gas in it.  Current owner says he opened the float bowls and cleaned them and the tank out.  He says that it now starts and idles but doesn't make any power.  I am hoping by that he means won't rev up as opposed to revs but has no power.  Assuming he does I am expecting to put a carb kit into it.  I read here that the jets that come in the kits aren't good quality but the o-rings and gaskets are fine.  Are there any kits that do have quality jets?  I know I can source the jets individually and get actual Keihin parts but it would be much easier to get a quality kit.
Thanks for the imput-
Scott

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Re: Good jets in a Carb Kit?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2008, 03:40:40 PM »
Unless there is corrosion in the carbs, all the metal bits including jets can be cleaned and reused.  The rubber parts often do need replacing.  Honda still sells a kit to replace all the rubber bits.

Also, if the intake boots are hard, replace those too.

With "no power" as the only information, it could be anything.  You can check the head pipe temps to see if all cyls are firing.  A cold one easily explains "no power".  After that, do everything on the routine tuneup list.  Filmy point contacts can easily make "no power".  But, so can most things on the tune up list.

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Re: Good jets in a Carb Kit?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2008, 08:01:06 AM »
I'll just plan on the rubber kit then.  Thanks.  I have more experience with singles and twins that due to vibration can cause the needle and seat wear so I am use to replacing those too.  The bike has 31k.

So additionally the tune up procedures include:
Points
Valve check
Oil and filters
Air filter
Charge battery
Lube cables

Any glaring omissions?

thanks
Scott


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Re: Good jets in a Carb Kit?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2008, 10:47:47 AM »
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So additionally the tune up procedures include:
Points And timing
Valve check
Cam chain tension adjust
Oil and filters
Air filter
Carb balance
Charge battery
Lube cables

Any glaring omissions?

Don't forget tire pressures and drive chain tension and lube.
Fork change/level.

Clean fuses and fuse contacts.


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Re: Good jets in a Carb Kit?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2008, 11:40:41 AM »
I'll probably end up just running it around the block a few times and then tearing it to pieces for a complete refurb.  It's my winter project.
Scott

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Re: Good jets in a Carb Kit?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2008, 05:47:53 PM »
My 76F sat for a year, after I had rebuilt the motor and ran it it a few times. When I got back to working on it and finished the running gear, I found it had very little power and would not rev over 5000.
The problem was that the stale fuel had grown plenty of green fungus-like crap in the 2 and 3 carbs. I did not take the carbs of, but cleaned the bowls, main jet (and tube) and pilot jet. Presto all was good again.
The problem appeared to be blocked jets, oddly mainly pilot jets.
It is easy to remove the jets from the 76 carbs whilst the carbs are on the bike.
I buy the aftermarket carb kits but only use the float seats with their needles and the gaskets.
All the original jets can be cleaned up OK. Most of the throttle needles seem to have slightly different tapers to the original (ie useless). I have sometimes used the airscrews without problem, although I did find on some kits, the springs were too big and would not allow the air screw to close properly
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Re: Good jets in a Carb Kit?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2008, 11:49:37 PM »
The main jets supplied will most likely be wrong unless your bike is butt stock.I also would replace the needle jet and jet needle with stock Honda.Everything else is just like Clyde says.
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Re: Good jets in a Carb Kit?
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2008, 08:03:22 PM »
Thanks guys. 
The bike showed up today and it is much rougher than my optimistic eye perceived it to be in the pictures.  I feel I it needs to be a complete frame off redo or every thing I do to it will seem band-aid.  There really isn't one part that doesn't need attention on some level.  I got a long winter ahead.
Scott