Topic: Trampling Death on Black Friday...why???

[Bob Wessner]

Should be an easy win or settlement I would think.

[Terry in Australia]

Is that New York? Geez, looks more like Capetown...........

[Ecosse]

Lot's have been covered here, of which I agree with most, and I wasn't even gonna bother chiming in for those reasons. But... 

I just wanna echo feelings of sadness for the poor soul who died just doing his job. One day he's having Thanksgiving dinner, the next he's gone... just like that. I'm truly saddened by the loss of life and the lack of humanity. While I'm no Walmart cheerleader (or basher) the blame wholly rests on the shoulders of those disgusting people who comprised the mob. There is no other blame than the ones who committed this.

Even if you could prove Walmart didn't prepare properly for the crowd it doesn't excuse the behavior one bit, period. I don't blame the family for suing (in this case) only because in addition to the sheer grief that can cloud rational thought, restitution seems most likely pursuing that course of action.

I agree with Heff to the degree that you just can't swing away and blindly punish with impunity. But the first step in actual justice is to focus on the real crime and source. It comes down to two words... personal f#@king responsibility.

I just can't believe nobody had the presence of mind to, oh I don't know... help?!

Having said all that, examples given before also remind that there are lots of good and selfless acts ignored every day by the media.

Finally, I'm doubtful of the character and intelligence of anyone willing to wait for hours on end for a freakin' sale! Include the iPod retards who ended up buying a defective product anyway or the perpetual virgin Star Wars fan camping out before the opening. If Darwin was right we'd be eating these people right now instead of enabling them.

Soylent Green anyone? 

[BobbyR]

Should be an easy win or settlement I would think.

One would hope Bob. After the Lawyers get their cut plus expenses, the family will see very little. The only full amount they will get is their grief. Senseless truly senseless.

[BobbyR]

More info is coming out. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,461704,00.html

[Demon67]

As an aside, when did we start to lose our humanity? Was it from the time I sited in the fifties or later or is it an accumulation. Is it because so many of us live in cities?
Bill the demon.

[TwoTired]

As an aside, when did we start to lose our humanity?

Who said we ever had it?  Have you checked recorded history?

Oh wait...  Which definition of humanity are you referring to?  The behavior of anyone who fits the scientific description of a human?

[Rocking-M]

As an aside, when did we start to lose our humanity?

Who said we ever had it?  Have you checked recorded history?

Oh wait...  Which definition of humanity are you referring to?  The behavior of anyone who fits the scientific description of a human?

I don't know but like to think that at one time more folks seemed to exhibit qualities which become humanity.
But, it seems that throughout history enough folks exhibited poor qualities that those with the good qualities
were quickly overwhelmed and silenced.

[mark]

Another story of barbarism:
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Witnesses: Fatal shooting followed toy store brawl
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Authorities released few details about the mayhem that broke out at the Toys "R" Us store around 11:30 a.m. Friday....

Well you could take their guns off them, and then the morons wouldn't have guns......

Anyone who goes to Toys'R'Us unarmed can correct that little oversight in aisle 10 with their choice of a couple hundred baseball bats.... or walk a few steps across the mall to Cutlery World and score a quick deal on a genuine reproduction Samurai sword.... or just freak out and drive a Suburban through the crowd.

[TwoTired]

My wife and I routinely laugh at the animal planet show about the Pet cops in various cities.  This is where they take animals from people they think shouldn't have them.  And, when they can't find a home for them with an "approved" owner.  The animal is "humanely" euthanized.

Sort of a "If it can't live the way we think it should live, let's kill it" approach.  Self-righteousness is a human trait.  Score another for "humanity". 
You can tell from the show, these people are totally into their jobs and the empowerment it brings them.  Yes, I know they do good things, too.

Some of my friends once formed a band and called themselves  "Youth In Asia".  They eventually had a bit of a falling out and went their separate ways.  I thought it ironic that the band sort of died, what with the play on words and all.

Helps to have a macabre sense of humor.

How long will it be until there's a joke about Wal-Mart temp employees being treated like door mats?  Leno could probably make it funny.  Just needs a good set up before the zing, eh?

Cheers,

[heffay]

well, if leno steals your joke... you can sue him!   

nice one... but i, apparently, have a sense of humor that pisses people off.      

[BobbyR]

As an aside, when did we start to lose our humanity?

Who said we ever had it?  Have you checked recorded history?

Oh wait...  Which definition of humanity are you referring to?  The behavior of anyone who fits the scientific description of a human?

.I don't know but like to think that at one time more folks seemed to exhibit qualities which become humanity.
But, it seems that throughout history enough folks exhibited poor qualities that those with the good qualities
were quickly overwhelmed and silenced.

Or maybe Rob, the good deeds are rarely recorded. Bad behavior is more noteworthy

[Rocking-M]

That's a good positive attitude Bobby. I'll take that.