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What the hell is wrong with the (Canadian) Govt?
« on: December 03, 2008, 07:49:51 PM »
Im sure by now that my fellow canadian members have heard about the nonsense going on down in ottawa. But for our american brothers and sisters i shall explain. We too had our major elections. However the parties that did not take power (liberals, NDP, Bloc Quebecois) have basically decided to throw a temper tantrum of sorts and form a coalition govt. Now of course..this has everyone who voted the conservatives into power wondering why the hell we even bothered voting.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2008, 07:54:01 PM »
I hope Dubya doesn't hear about this.
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2008, 07:55:26 PM »
Don't start that #$%* again, please.  I've had enough of the US political BS bickering.

I hope Dubya doesn't hear about this.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2008, 08:22:20 PM »
Well Edbike, it won't effect your well earned money in any what so ever in any way possible.
Trust me, I'm a Doctor ::)\\

We are simple Canadians, and a little rude politics's  won't keep us from our intended plot............?



Still..........this is some weired Sh*t going on. A Canadian Coup DE Tat?????
I wonder who's side the army is on?

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Re: What the hell is wrong with the Govt?
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2008, 08:23:08 PM »
Not bashing the Us govt...they actually did something right for a change...no im bashing my own canadian govt with this one...
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2008, 09:22:54 PM »
Please carry on!  Canadian political bickering is a perfectly welcome change for me! ;D

Please note that I said "US" in my earlier post in this thread.  That stands for United States.

My post was directly squarely at 333's unpleasant re-introduction of the very divisive and irritating subject (American politics).  It is time to move on.

Don't start that #$%* again, please.  I've had enough of the US political BS bickering.

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Re: What the hell is wrong with the Govt?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008, 10:06:48 PM »
OK, so now we have ground rules.
NO mention of the 'what County was that again'?

I would love to hear anyones take on these recent events up in the North here.

P.S. DarkRider.....add (Canadian) to"thread heading" on your 1st post under modify post and perhaps others would chime in realising we are lost in the snow and need outside input to keep the beer flowing ;D


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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2008, 11:21:01 PM »
La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la........... didn't hear a thing.

The tele is off, I won't read the paper, and I'll be in the shop if you need me.

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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2008, 11:46:29 PM »

My head is in the sand.

Separative ;D ;D ;D


P.S. Our Government was almost/will be over thrown within days and you still can't rile a Canadian :o

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Re: What the hell is wrong with the (Canadian) Govt?
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2008, 12:17:18 AM »
Eh...I find it amusing given im in the praries and really...if the alberta and sask govts didnt like what the main is doing..easiest way to get their attention would be to simply turn off the oil taps and see how they react...
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2008, 03:36:37 AM »
if you don't like it you can always get involved with american politics
it's alot more exciting
didn't quebec want to be thier own country a while ago?
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2008, 03:44:30 AM »
Yea they did...looks like they are trying it again by another method...getting the entire country pissed off at them enough to boot their sorry ass
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2008, 04:26:01 AM »
Yea they did...looks like they are trying it again by another method...getting the entire country pissed off at them enough to boot their sorry ass

It might be easier to get booted out, sounds like a good plan!  ;D ;D

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Re: What the hell is wrong with the (Canadian) Govt?
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2008, 04:30:18 AM »
Good call Dark on starting this thread  8)  It's all anyone is talking aboot up here.

What really cheeses me is that Dion, who pouted for days after loosing the election and even the liberals don't want as a leader may actually end up leading the country.

IMO these power hungry children in Ottawa have proved to me just how far they are removed from reality. With the economy the way it is, the last thing our country needs is this crap.

If I were CEO of a company, and the party leaders were management beneath me, I would fire the lot of them for incompetence.......Harper too. He's just a guilty for pulling that funding chop crap. What did he think would happen.

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Re: What the hell is wrong with the (Canadian) Govt?
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2008, 05:14:33 AM »
I'm inclined to agree with the statement made by an oil field worker that phoned into the local rock station yesterday morning.

"Im gonna go down to ottawa and form a coalition of my own...a coalition of my foot up their ass!!!"
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2008, 05:32:20 AM »
Just remember when you see my name to the left there, I'm an Irish Quebecer and Canadian, and like most people here, I'M NO SEPARATIST. I've travelled & lived across this country, but my ancestors settled on this piece of farmland nearly two hundred years ago, and it is home.

So I won't sit by and be bad mouthed.

This whole pile of #$%* is going to polarize the country, west from east and I'm fukin mad about it. I always vote and get involved, but it doesn't matter what I think, I feel powerless.......again.

Be careful though who you blame, you should know not one of the parties is inocent in this thing. We should replace the lot. 


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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2008, 06:16:48 AM »
Be careful though who you blame, you should know not one of the parties is inocent in this thing. We should replace the lot. 

That's what I'm sayin', they're all guilty on this one.

...and what was with the bad camera work on Dion's speech last night? like is was the parties first crack at public broadcasting. Out of focus and too close for me  ::)

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Re: What the hell is wrong with the (Canadian) Govt?
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2008, 06:17:18 AM »
Just remember when you see my name to the left there, I'm an Irish Quebecer and Canadian, and like most people here, I'M NO SEPARATIST. I've travelled & lived across this country, but my ancestors settled on this piece of farmland nearly two hundred years ago, and it is home.

So I won't sit by and be bad mouthed.

This whole pile of #$%* is going to polarize the country, west from east and I'm fukin mad about it. I always vote and get involved, but it doesn't matter what I think, I feel powerless.......again.

Be careful though who you blame, you should know not one of the parties is inocent in this thing. We should replace the lot. 



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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2008, 06:20:51 AM »
 A little background from the CBCs' Washington file correspondent
Neil Macdonald..

Dear neighbour, about what's going on in Canada
Last Updated: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 | 9:00 PM E

My dear American neighbours,

I see the political crisis in Canada has finally made it into the Washington Post's Foreign Briefs column.

So, anticipating a flood of interest from all of you at the dog run in the morning, let me try to give you some idea of what's happening up there.

A few weeks ago, we had an election in Canada, a couple of weeks before yours, actually. A political party known as the Conservatives won.

Well, sort of. They didn't win in the sense that most of you understand winning. I'll get to that in a second.

They also aren't what most of you would consider conservative.

They support what you call socialized medicine, they believe in protecting a Canadian-controlled banking system, they believe in government as a vehicle for transferring wealth between regions, and they've actually muzzled party members who tried to make abortion a campaign issue.

In fact, instead of making his Sunday trip to church a photo opportunity, our Conservative leader refuses to discuss his faith in public. (Like many Americans, he's an evangelical Christian).

Different kettle of fish

So our Conservatives are a bit different from yours. Down here, you'd probably call them Democrats. And fairly liberal ones at that.

But, as I said, they won our last election, which is a pretty low-key affair compared to yours. The campaign lasted a few weeks instead of two years.

What's more, they won with only 37 per cent of the vote. Now, you can do that in Canada because our Parliament has three other political parties: The Liberals (again, pay no attention to the name, they tend to adapt their worldview as needed), the Bloc Québécois (a Quebec party that says it wants to break up the country, but hasn't actually done much about it for many years), and the NDP.

I'm not quite sure how to explain the NDP. The other parties like to call them socialists.

Some of their more doctrinaire members would like the government to nationalize or take a large financial stake in things like banks and manipulate the national economy by spending huge amounts of public money. You know, the sort of thing President George W. Bush has been doing this year.

I know, I know, it's confusing.

Funny old world, isn't it?

So. The Conservatives won our election and formed something called a minority government.

That means the Conservatives can basically be tossed out of office by the opposition parties whenever they feel like it, which usually happens after a year or two. Then there's an election.

This time, though, the opposition parties decided to throw out the government before it really even started governing. But instead of forcing another election, the opposition parties made a deal: they formed a surprise coalition and now they want to take power without consulting voters again.

Americans might have a hard time understanding this sort of thing, but it happens all the time in places like Israel and Italy. Wait, though. Uh, wake up. We're getting to the really interesting part.

The CBC connection

To take over, the opposition parties have to convince our head of state that they can govern effectively. President Bush is your head of state, at least until Barack Obama moves in.

But our head of state isn't elected. It's the Queen. And she's represented up there by someone called a governor general, who is appointed. Voters don't have anything to do with it.

Except for not being elected, a governor general is a lot like your vice-president. Sort of ceremonial. Our governors general travel a lot, cut ribbons, declare holidays for school kids and try to set a good example.

The current office holder, Michaëlle Jean, used to be a CBC reporter. Like me.

Actually, the one before her was once a CBC reporter, too. So were two others in the recent past. In our country, any CBC reporter can dream of becoming head of state.

Letting a journalist decide

Like your vice-president, sometimes a governor general becomes unbelievably important. Right now, for example. Sooner or later, this former TV reporter is going to have to decide who runs Canada.

Now, the Conservatives aren't taking this state of affairs lying down.

They've been talking about shutting down Parliament for a while until they can think of some way to prevent the opposition parties from throwing them out. But they can't just do that. They'd have to convince the Governor General to let them.

It's all very dramatic, you have to admit. Right? Don't you? Hello?

I mean, we Canadians don't have all those big-mouthed cable anchors that you have, but you can imagine what they'd do with a situation like this.

It's the economy

Wait a second. I forgot to explain why all this is happening. Bear with me.

You see, Canada's economy is in trouble. Just like everybody else's.

So when the Conservatives won, most people expected them to turn on the spending taps, the way every other country in the developed world is doing.

But Prime Minister Stephen Harper, for some reason, decided not to.

In fact, last week he had his finance minister announce that the government intends to run a surplus in its next budget. Meaning the government intends to take more in taxes from Canadians than it needs to run the country.

(I know President Bush has never run a surplus. But Canadian governments have, every year for more than a decade, even when the supposedly spendy Liberals were in charge.)

Anyway, in the middle of an economic crisis, Harper's plan didn't go over well with the three opposition parties and they saw their chance.

So that's what's happening.

Actually, if you think about it, our prime minister is doing exactly what President Bush keeps saying he'd like to be doing, instead of authorizing another trillion or so every week in new bailouts.

Maybe it's not such a funny old world after all.

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Re: What the hell is wrong with the (Canadian) Govt?
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2008, 06:25:44 AM »
Trust Dave to pull even more info up on this mess lol
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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2008, 06:29:34 AM »
Lets hope dubya doesn't hear about this AND actually be smart enough to understand it! :D

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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2008, 06:40:51 AM »
..AND actually be smart enough to understand it! :D

You're kidding, right? ;D
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2008, 06:45:08 AM »
Ok...sooooo glad i wasnt drinking at the time..cuz that would have caused pepsi to fly all over the place from laughter lol
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2008, 06:49:34 AM »
yes I am kidding. We all know that dubya has no brains! He let cheney do his best darth vader impression on everything! ;D

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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2008, 06:58:50 AM »
Damn, you guys just can't control yourselves, can you?  Even going so far as to hijack a thread about Canadian politics just so you can #$%* and moan.  I thought that you guys would finally stop whining when Obama won the election, but noooooooo...

yes I am kidding. We all know that dubya has no brains! He let cheney do his best darth vader impression on everything! ;D
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