Topic: Brand new 69 sandcast for sale!??

[bender01]

Is that the same bike that was in the CL ad? Looks awesome. Is it serial#ed? Im confused as to what the bike should be classified as.Other than wicked cool!!! Clone?  Has any anyone ever built a 69 z/28 out of NOS parts? If so what would it be called.

[deacon]

No, My bike was never on Craigslist. May be a clone, parts bike, or whatever, don't matter to me. It runs and looks just like my original, but nicer. My original Sandcast had 7500 miles on it when I bought it used from a Honda dealer in 1970. This one is the same color but only has 75 miles on it so far. As soon as I can get a day off and some sunny weather it's going to have lots more  . I can't wait to break it in so I can jump on it. I haven't had it over 6K RPMS yet. Can wait to feel it when it starts to come on the cam @ 7000.
It is a late Build. Date of manufacture on Frame tag is 9/69
VIN# CB7501006750
Engine SN# CB750E1006630

[bender01]

Its a restoration then. I dont know much about Vic World but he did build a new bike from parts didnt he? Wasnt it in the first issue of Mortorcyclist retro? Could you post more pics of the engine both sides and other cool identifying parts. Thanks

[sandcastcb750]

I have had 3 sandcasts. They are at best a novelty as the 1971-1975 CB750s overall run better. I had one 1969 that ran pretty good but it had some quirks.

Most people (motorcyclist too) don't even know the difference between a K2 and a KO or what year except that it looks kinda old maybe nineteen seventy something. Unless you have to have a sandcast, it's alot of dough to impress people that aren't impressed. The group at Laconia years back just knew it was a rice burner of some sort.

I have had them, had some fun. Bought them when they did'nt cost a fortune. $40,000....hahaha. Like the 401K retirements that are now 201K, the value of a sandcast is 1/2.......or maybe CB375? "How do you make a million dollars selling sancast CB750s? Start with two million dollars" They aren't that rare; made 7414 and alot survived too.

A 1973 CB750 is really just as good, really.

[masonryman]

It's an awesome toy and now it's yours, congats.

It may be worth more or less than you gave, it don't matter unless you get rid of it and I for one hope you never have to.

Mark

[toycollector10]

I don't think anyone this decade ever bought a sandcast to impress anyone.

It's something you do just for yourself, otherwise you couldn't justify the cost.

And, the K0 was louder, faster and better looking than any other model to come after it. They got it right first time!

[GroovieGhoulie]

I don't think anyone this decade ever bought a sandcast to impress anyone.

It's something you do just for yourself, otherwise you couldn't justify the cost.

And, the K0 was louder, faster and better looking than any other model to come after it. They got it right first time!

I agree.

I do take some umbrage at the comment that they're bought to impress people.  I bought mine and wasn't even in the market for one.  I was actually wanting a perfect 100-point diecast K0, but a correct Sandcast came along for similar money, and while it wasn't perfect, all the patina and wear is genuine, and irreplaceable to me.

Having said that, it IS for me more than anyone else.  I know it sounds rather conceited, but I enjoy being a Sandcast owner.  It gives me a measure of pride that my tastes are sophisticated enough to appreciate a piece of motorcycling history like that.  My contemporaries and peers are dropping dime on new 'Busas and CBR1000RRs, and for less money, I got a Sandcast 750.  Yeah, no one gets it besides me and a small collection of Honda wonks, but where their plastic machines are devaluing hard, and look just like everything else on the road, mine is at least holding steady, and I'm the only kid in town with one.

People come over to my hangar and they ask about it, and I mention that it's a Sandcast, and every one gives me a look.  They don't get it and I don't care.  It's for ME.  The fat styling, the 300 exhausts that bark and pop on the overrun like a snarling beast, it's so PERFECT. 

It's on the short list of bikes I own that will never be sold.

Mine:

Frame 2782
Engine 1873

[Magpie]

Well said!
Cliff.

[deacon]

+1


I did make an impression on some school girls with my sandcast back in 1970. They were getting off a high school bus and I was thinking I was so cool on my bike revving the engine. Then all of a sudden, all I can say is I am sure that elephants can fly cause something crapped all over my face. I couldn't even see out my sunglasses. It was in my mouth and all over my face. The light turned green and I had to walk my bike to the curb to wipe all the bird sh*t off my face.
Needless to say the girls were laughing their behinds off.

I will post some more pictures when I get a day off. I have to work 7 days in a row this week and the weekend and Thanksgiving.
Not complaining, glad to have a job.

[deacon]

I don't just love sandcasts, I love the CB750 period. I bought a brand new 1972 CB750 in 1972 and put 32,000 miles on it without a breakdown. I drove that bike very hard. I took it to the drag strip many times pulling burnouts and really beating it.  I never did anything to it but change the oil and filter, plugs points and adjusted the cam chain and valves.
I also just sold a cherry 1974 on ebay, you may have see it. It was beautifull! (see picture).
I just have so many memories of that first 750. And now that I have one back again. I know it wasn't just my imagination.

[andy750]

That is a very nice 74! Looks just like mine only more shiny  ....although mine now has 70,000 miles on it

cheers
Andy

[HondaMan]

That is a very nice 74! Looks just like mine only more shiny  ....although mine now has 70,000 miles on it

cheers
Andy

I rolled over 130,000 miles this summer on my K2. The bottom end has finally worn out the needle bearing in the center of the clutch hub, making it howl when cold and mechanically noisy when hot, but works fine. Soos sent me a (very) young clutch hub, and Gammaflat found me a K1 engine (titled K2, like mine) with very low miles also. Between the two, I'm going to finally freshen up my old friend's bottom end for next year. I'm even thinking of boring it to the next oversize (.50mm, 2nd step), since it ran with the same .25mm pistons and rings from 50,000 miles to 126,000 miles (76,000 miles), when I decided to add new rings because I took it apart to hemi the head. It still had 120 PSI compression, and less than .00025" top-of-bore cylinder wear (almost unmeasurable with my instruments), and it honed right up in 1 minute per bore at the time, so it didn't need the rings, but I had already bought them. In all that time, all I've done is change oil, points, and plugs, and occasionally adjusted rockers. And flogged it at least once per day, after warmup, to check out freeway onramps and such. These are amazingly tough bike engines... 

[GroovieGhoulie]

Not to totally bring back a dead thread, (OMG ZOMBIE THREAD!!!), but I found an article questioning the collecting of vintage guitars and there was a passage that PERFECTLY explained that such a thing is not done for others (Change the word "guitar" in the passage to "motorcycle" and it fits to a "T"):

Nobody Cares But YOU and a few other guys that haven't discovered girls yet!
 

Besides collecting vintage guitars, I've collected a variety of interesting things over the years. I loved coins when I was a kid.  Stamps soon followed. Comic books and baseball cards were a blast.  Eventually, of course, you outgrow these things.  One of the last things I collected was vintage clothing- especially rayon Hawaiian shirts from the 40's.  I had a couple of mint condition old shirts that I loved to wear on the rare occasions when I felt like putting them on.  It was always a kick in the ass when I'd show up in my beautiful 1940's Duke Kahanamoku shirt and people would have no reaction.  I expected them to think my hobby was as cool as I thought it was.  Guess what?  Nobody cares!

Take your finest vintage guitar and walk up to a guy on the street and show it to him.  Don't expect him to start salivating and scream at the top of his lungs "Oh my God, a vintage guitar!".   He's far more likely to think you are just weird and say "Yes, your guitar is very nice; you'll have to excuse me now as I have a girlfriend and we are going to be engaging in adult activities".

Only the middle aged, amateur unwashed musicians of the world who happened to be familiar with the fact that you have an old guitar will want to be your friend.  Once again, you will have to ask yourself a question- Do I really want to hang out with these people?  However, if you sell your guitars and put that $800,000.00 in the bank, you will have tons of new friends!



This article was written by Frank Lucido of Studio City California

[toycollector10]

A great thread.

Slight hijack. I've owned my '69 K0 for three years. Unstamped pipes, sounds fabulous working up through the gears especially once I push it past around 7,500 RPM. The only issue in all that time was this week when I found out that my stator was earthing and needed replacing. Probably 15,000 miles on her since I've owned it and that's it. Fabulous. An easy fix at about $160 USD all up.

Change the oil and filter and adjust her here and there and it's good to go. Week in and week out.

It turns heads and people say things like "Where's the crate it came in?" which is hugely flattering because the resto isn't that great, but you get my drift?