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Offline mrblasty

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350-4 Oily alternator
« on: September 25, 2005, 11:02:42 PM »
Still trying to figure out my neighbors 350. while I had the alt cover off I noticed oil on the inside of the cover and on the windings.
All he has is a Clymer manual for the bike and it doesn't offer much insight on the matter, My question is what's it going to take to replace the seal behind the alternator?
Still Learning the basics of motorcycle/auto electrics so bear with the Rooky questions.
during the starting process do the coils energize from the battery or the alternator?
« Last Edit: September 27, 2005, 07:35:19 PM by mrblasty »
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Re: Oily alternator
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2005, 09:46:31 AM »
If I'm not mistaken, it's similar to other Honda engines where there is no seal for the alternator shaft- the cover itself is oiltight, so it's perfectly normal for the alternator to be wet with oil.

Everything on the bike energizes from the battery at start-up. As the bike runs, the alternator replaces the power taken from the battery.
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Re: Oily alternator
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2005, 09:30:59 PM »
There is an crankshaft oil seal, it MIGHT be changeable without a teardown but I can't guarantee that. It is shown as a standard size but it may have retaining tabs, I don't have one here or an engine apart to say for sure. A standard oil seal should be removable with a seal hook or home-made tool and the new one would drive right in, retaining ears engage notches in the crank split and hold her tight in place. You can not see the ears with the seal in place.
The alternator cover isn't really sealed, the wires come out at the bottom through a split grommet thing .
Oil shouldn't hurt the alternator, however it really shouldn't be leaking down the crankshaft. If it isn't a gross leak dripping (or poring) oil out I would live with it until maybe you need to tear down the motor.
Another possibility is the oil gallery plug below the crankshaft, it looks like an aluminum nipple on the left side. Pull and twist on the nipple with pliers and it will pop out, there's an O-ring seal that might be the problem. Some oil will come out (a cup or so) but I think (heh heh) it's above the full oil level in the engine sump. DO NOT start the motor with the alternator cover off as the cover retains the plug, oil pressure will pop it out and you'll have an unholy mess.
Getting the alternator rotor off requires a hardened threaded tool or bolt, the rear axle has the same size thread but using it tends to result in stripped threads both on the axle and in the rotor.

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Re: Oily alternator
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2005, 09:32:30 PM »
Didn't realize I was in "non-sohc4" forum, above applies to 350-4 NOT 350 twin.
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Re: 350-4 Oily alternator
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2005, 06:32:27 PM »
... and I didn't realize we were talking about a 350 4-banger..  :-[
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Re: 350-4 Oily alternator
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2005, 07:37:15 PM »
Hi all, I noticed this posting had been moved from the non sohc forum .
the bike in in question is a twin.
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Re: Oily alternator
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2005, 04:19:47 AM »
Didn't realize I was in "non-sohc4" forum, above applies to 350-4 NOT 350 twin.
Oops.

I moved it here for more exposure as Bodi stated the above.  If it is actually a twin, let me know and I'll move it back!
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Re: 350-4 Oily alternator
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2005, 08:16:18 AM »
If its a twin there should be oil there if its a four there shouldnt
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