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Offline OakBehringer

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Engine out for winter, valve seals, rings, what else?
« on: December 14, 2008, 07:39:09 pm »
I took advantage of the unusually warm weather tonight, pulled my engine, and transferred it to the basement. I am planning on doing valve seals for sure - probably piston rings too. Is there anything else I should definitely consider doing this long winter?

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Adam

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Re: Engine out for winter, valve seals, rings, what else?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2008, 07:40:07 pm »
I should also add that I want to pull off the head to either paint or chrome it. Any idea how much the latter would cost?
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Re: Engine out for winter, valve seals, rings, what else?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2008, 08:01:56 pm »
You got to take the head off to change the stem seals anyway so thats a gasket set, all the seals have to be very old and with it out i personaly would split the cases , change the camchain and give the tensioner mechanism a good going over as they are always suspect
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Re: Engine out for winter, valve seals, rings, what else?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2008, 08:07:14 pm »
Awesome, this is the type of advice I'm looking for. Thank you very much. Any advice on where to get the most top notch gaskets?
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Re: Engine out for winter, valve seals, rings, what else?
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2008, 08:09:01 pm »
Ebay ;D

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Re: Engine out for winter, valve seals, rings, what else?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2008, 12:28:28 pm »
I started with my 750 oil leak fix, and am now into the "since you have it out of the frame" stage.
Most members have advised to go with the OEM gaskets. Their are plenty of small "details"
you may want to consider, especially if you get down to the rings. (relap valves, ring size, honing, circlips,install techniques..on and on)
I just beadblasted and repainted mine and they look GREAT. There are many posts on this subject, just search. The big thing I have learned, is that if you do bead blast, make sure you THOUROGHLY clean out all cavities and oil passages. I though I did a good job, but desided to give it one more going over and found enough sand in a few ports to KILL my cam.
If you have no transmission problems, getting into the cases may be agressive / expensive / time consuming. I have been advised that a properly maintained bottom end should be good for 60,000+. My buddy has 62000 on his, no problems. I see yours is a 500/550, I know the 500's had some shortcomings in the clutch department.
Here are some good links, and the links to my posts.
http://www.westernhillshondayamaha.com/fiche_select.asp get part numbers, these guys match the prices from service honda.
http://www.servicehonda.com/parts.php get the best price.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=32081.msg330949#msg330949

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=29364.0

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Re: Engine out for winter, valve seals, rings, what else?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2008, 01:52:04 pm »
I'm impressed......
  I carried my 750K motor to my basement and my boys nearly fell into my boots.  Bruises everywhere...
Carrying it out...I will have help.


actually...I had pulled the head and cylinder first... : ;D
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Re: Engine out for winter, valve seals, rings, what else?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2008, 05:55:55 pm »
speed costs
How fast do you want to go?
Or do you want to just freshen up the ol gal?

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Re: Engine out for winter, valve seals, rings, what else?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2008, 06:02:21 pm »
you may want to check out the "dummies" thread.  Specifically this post: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=29364.msg302644#msg302644

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Offline OakBehringer

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Re: Engine out for winter, valve seals, rings, what else?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2008, 06:25:13 pm »
Yup, I've already read a lot of that post. I'm currently making a shopping list. I will start a project thread and post a link to it here.

Thanks!
Adam
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Re: Engine out for winter, valve seals, rings, what else?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2008, 07:17:16 pm »
Here's the project thread. Thanks again!

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=44293.0
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