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Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« on: December 25, 2008, 05:42:26 PM »
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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2008, 06:16:39 PM »
So- took delivery yesterday (Wed) and Sewer Boy and I went out for a toot.  Everyone keeps impressing how break-in is long and laborous.  No going over 45 mph for the first 1000 miles and so on. 
That's OK, because most of the roads I ride vary from between 10 and 40 mph anyway; mountains with constant twists and hairpins. 

To answer Mr McPuffet, the style he's thinking of is now called "Contenental" (basically the same ias "Clubman").  This is not the whole boat, though.  Just the tank, seat, and rear-sets.  The full set includes a different HL, clip-ons, and aluminium fenders (probably a different tail light, but I'm not sure).  Overall, the bike is small- somewhere between an SR500 and a GB500.  Rear tire is a 3.50, front is 3.25.  I didn't think they made those sizes anymore.  A front disk conversion is available, but I was assured the drum front is fine.

First thing- the frame of the AVL engined bike is a little different and brackets had to be made for the tank.  Rubber grommets were fitted over the fork-stops to help prevent whacking the tank- which is bigger than stock. 
I plan to change out the tail light, but worrried about vibrations.  While the bike does make my wood floored garage shake like a Sherman tank is passing, the fender is braced with a sort of railing on both sides.  Never saw anything like it.  That fender is not going anywhere.  HOWEVER- the left rear trafficator (hah!- turn signal) is falling off already.  Judicious application of electrical tape should forestall problems there. 
As soon as I got the bike, I put my own grips and Napoleons on.  I noticed before leaving today that the front brake perch is broken!  >Warranty time < Beans.

The start;  RE now supplies a different ignition gizmo with a build-in delay for the electric start which is supposed to prevent the destruction of the whatsis gear (sprag?) that engages the starter.  Bike started instantly and warmed fine while attempting to shake my grage loose from it's moorings.  Cute.

The ride;  Seat feels rather over-firm and I feel locked in to one position.  The stock bars are turned down a bit... These sidecases are really bugging me with the rear-sets because my feet can't go back as far as I would like.  Big bo-gands (derived from brogands which was a type of boot- brogan) don't fit in there too well. 
I wanted the rear-sets because the stock pegs felt too far forward and the rear brake, especially, was nigh on to impossible to work unless I picked my foot up and mashed on it with my heel.

The foot position now begs for clubmans, or at least to turn the stock bars upside down- but I fear that would get the tank sides whacked bad and put too much pressure on my hands.  If I was going to be doing 60+, much lower bars would work.  I'm not going to rush any decisions on these things, though.

I miss a tach.  Power is flat as a table top in all gears, so it's hard to know if I'm lugging the engine or not.  The bike is VERY light and turns in very quickly and easily.  I look forward to pressing a bit.  These roads are what this bike is for.
Both brakes seem fine so far.  Shifting is surprisingly smooth and positive.  Much smoother than an old Beemer, in fact.

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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2008, 07:37:26 PM »


       Uncle, I have family history with the Royal Enfields and have always like them. My Granddad had a 55' Indian Woodsman (RE 500cc Single built for On & Off Road, for those who don't know) and that thing had power to spare! I'm quite confident that you will make whatever adjustments that you require, to make the bike meet your needs! BTW, the tank looks great. 8) ;)
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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2008, 07:43:16 PM »


       Uncle, I have family history with the Royal Enfields and have always like them. My Granddad had a 55' Indian Woodsman (RE 500cc Single built for On & Off Road, for those who don't know) and that thing had power to spare! I'm quite confident that you will make whatever adjustments that you require, to make the bike meet your needs! BTW, the tank looks great. 8) ;)

But that bike wasnt made in india was it? I know they were built in england till the late 50`s or early 60`s but then things were transfered to india

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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2008, 08:08:11 PM »


       Uncle, I have family history with the Royal Enfields and have always like them. My Granddad had a 55' Indian Woodsman (RE 500cc Single built for On & Off Road, for those who don't know) and that thing had power to spare! I'm quite confident that you will make whatever adjustments that you require, to make the bike meet your needs! BTW, the tank looks great. 8) ;)

But that bike wasnt made in india was it? I know they were built in england till the late 50`s or early 60`s but then things were transfered to india

          True, but there are a number of folks over on the RE Forums who sem to be making them work out pretty well. And I've also heard folks badmouth the RE Twins as well and I'm not EVEN saying that they are wrong, I've just never experienced it and don't recall flks having much to say about the old ones except about the leaks which seems to have been the norm for a British bike back then. And I am not saying that folks don't know what they are talking about, just saying what my experience has been. Only RE I ever got to ride was a 66' 750 TT Interceptor (was painted what they called "HiFi Blue") and that bike would run! Yeah, I (myself) don't know anything of the quality of the RE's built in India, but somebody's buying them and they seem to be surviving. Maybe they have stepped up the quality? Just a guess mind you. ;)
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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2008, 08:17:32 PM »
I've just never experienced it and don't recall flks having much to say about the old ones except about the leaks which seems to have been the norm for a British bike back then.


As the old joke goes......

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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2008, 08:19:19 PM »
Congrats Uncle Ernie. I had wanted one like yours, Clubman/Continental ever since I saw one at the local corner store. Hope it works out for you and prove the nay sayers wrong.

I think there's a slew of mods to virtually double the power without making it unridable. But what do I know.

Thanks for the review.
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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2008, 08:24:46 PM »
Bill, from all the reading I've been doing, they sound similar to Ural; They have been bought by some people who want to improve the whole shebang.  Not perfect yet, but hellsbells- I was sure glad I had a good warranty on my new BMW back when, too.  All kinds of stuff was wrong with that thing.
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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2008, 08:25:10 PM »
Stick it on nitrous Paul, that'll get it over 45mph.....with a bit of luck ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2008, 04:58:07 AM »
Actually Samer, I think it's a weight issue.
When I got disgusted and threw the oars overboard, it seemed to pick right up!.
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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2008, 09:51:35 AM »
Actually Samer, I think it's a weight issue.
When I got disgusted and threw the oars overboard, it seemed to pick right up!.

         I'm sure you are right about the weight thing Uncle. My OWN choice (just MINE mind you) would probably be like this one (except not clip-ons on either one and a different muffler):

       

      or maybe:               

       

      I would definitely say that I'm glad I can't afford one cause, I would not be able to make up my mind! ::) :D
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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2008, 02:01:59 PM »
Well, that boat-tail action on the "cafe" version... I just don't like it.  The clip-ons would put too much weight on my wrists.  the wheel covers- nice loking but 'spensive.  Same with the new fenders. 
I may try superbike bars, though.

A mechanical genious like you can get used ones cheap.  Get one for your wife and friends. 
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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2008, 03:01:32 PM »


     Hey Unc, I was just trying to cut some weight off, you know? ???

     Like this one except for the clip-ons (I can't go them either) Too bad about the cost of things nowadays. ::) Yeah, if ya have to go with new stuff, it can get pretty high alright. I can't afford one for me, much less anyone else. :( Enjoy your new ride Uncle! 8)
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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2009, 02:24:13 PM »
Today, I decided to find out how to do something besides get to the end of Newfound Rd and just turn around. I'm still breaking in the new engine and don't want to get on the freeway, you see. So, I spend a little map time with my ever-present magnifying glass.

Newfound is lazy and pretty. There's a part where a farm often has pygmy goats and llamas grazing. I enjoy looking at them. It rises and falls in and out of the farm land and pastures. The end gets super curvy when it goes over a big hill. However, this time of year the county sprays some kind of brine stuff on the higher roads and it turns to talcum powder when it dries. Scary stuff that must be avoided at all costs.

At the end I find Beaverdam Rd. It's more of the same. I never get tired of tiny churches up on a hill with old grave stones planted nearby, ancient grey barns and sheds that don't even have a memory of paint anymore, and tiny little houses like the one I pass made of stone. Hard to imagine someone actually lives there- it's no bigger than a studio apartment.

The road starts up into a mountain, and I see the sky is a sort of dark calico of slate, white clouds, a little blue, and patches of bright sun that make areas of the tan fields glow. The narrow road begins to get tighter as I keep going up and it's hard to lok through the grey trees that remind me of skeletons with arms outretched. Alongside some of the hills, the anfgle of the sun is low so the moisture never evaporates. In higher elevations there is still snow in areas like that. At one point, my tire that would have been state-of-the-art sometime in the beginning of the last century slowly slides about 12 inches at a tangent to where I'm looking! I hate that. I'm lucky there's no other traffic while I panic a little and I roll into the on-coming lane. The tire gets to dry ground as I push the bars a little more and come back, but it takes a while for my breathing to become normal again.

At the top, I see a scary sight that reminds me of a certain street in San Francisco that is so steep it's almost breath-taking. There's no traffic, so I stop and take stock of all this. Through the trees I can see the hills below with patches of sunlight here and there. But for the punk-punk-punk of my single cylinder going, it's deathly silent up here.
The road looks like crap- unusual for North Carolina. I wish I had trials tires; there are small rocks, some bits of red clay strewn around, and I can see one spot farther down that loks like the road buckled because of the cold at some point.

I start down and shift into 2nd, thinking I'll take it slow... (Famous last words) These back and forth turns are consistantly tight and I'm afraid of a miss-step. I've had the front wheel disappear on me before, and I have to remind myself this is not the time to use the front brake. I shift back down to first and keep my foot on the rear brake. I feel like I'm trying to thread a needle with a motorcycle. I'd sort of like to take in some of the spectacular scenery, but I don't dare distract myself from scanning up and back- looking for the line (if you can call it that) before I need to make a last-second change.

Finally at the bottom, things get back to rolling and easy side-to-side riding. The old, relaxed dance again. I can look at the scenery a little now. How different it all is when the fields are block by green leaves. I come up to a sign with an aroow and Big Sandy Mush is one of my options. I've been that way before and I'm thinking of a cheese sammich at home.

The new Enfield is finally loosening up and wants to go a little faster. I put superbike bars on which helped the overall ergos a lot. I like the way it pulls along in first gear real slow. I can see why people like to use them for trials riding. I like the way it emits a low crackle when I'm decelerating down a long hill. It's nice and light. I'm liking it.

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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2009, 02:28:41 PM »
I still want one. You're not making it any easier Uncle Ernie.
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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2009, 02:52:29 PM »
After a post like that you seriously need to make a video riding that thing. Makes me want one all the more.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2009, 06:01:30 PM »
That sounds like a fun idea.  How would a technological dummy go about doing something like that?
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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2009, 06:03:26 PM »
What a super story Paul, have you ever thought of taking up writing as a profession?

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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2009, 08:04:38 PM »
Hmmm... nothing from PayPal...

Dammit- did you just read that for free?!
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2009, 05:23:55 PM »
Hmmm... nothing from PayPal...

Dammit- did you just read that for free?!

        Ha! I just claimed to be Family and got it for free there Uncle! ;)

      As far as this post goes, YOU always HAVE had a way with words there Uncle. ;) Very interesting read! :)
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Re: Royal Enfield Bullet first impressions
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2009, 11:15:49 PM »
Easiest way to take vid would be to make or buy a handle bar mount and bolt a camcorder or digital camera to it...go out riding then show us the results lol
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