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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #300 on: September 14, 2009, 12:53:06 PM »
waiting for the rest of all ordered parts for my stroker projekt (pistons, sleeves, gaskets), i did some work on my egli replika.
first I had a track day at pannoniaring to test the changes been done to the front fork. all i noticed that there had been not any issues any more with the front fork. there was no chattering during hard cornering coming from the front end no more.
under hard breaking however, i felt some minor hopping on the rear wheel. this could be caused by the lack of a rear wheel chain damper. another cause can be found in the wilbers rear wheel shock absorbers. they do have adjusting screws for inward dampenig and fast and slow outward dampening. none of them i altered since i got the absorbers. there is plenty room to play with.

at the monet i am prepairing the bike for the race in rijeka in oct, 10th.
i decided to give the metzeler roadattack z6 a chance. the tire is 160x18 rear and 110x18 front. mounted on the 4" rim, the tire is 150mm wide. there are no problems with the chain, > 6mm room.
the last days i prepaired a second set of wheels. again Marvic magnesium wheels, bridgestone BT45 equipped. the rear 140x18 tire is on a 3.75" rim.

forgotten to mention: at the track day a friend of mine raced a Yam FZ6 S2, brandnew bike with 100rear wheel HP. he told me that he was unable to follow my bike on the straight :)
i am hoping that my engine will last forever

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #301 on: September 14, 2009, 01:17:02 PM »
Love those wheels Mec. Ill be interested in your review of the BT-45s. For me they are a great all-round tire that stick very well in the corners. Good luck with the race!

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #302 on: September 14, 2009, 03:03:00 PM »
Hi mec,

As always looking very good, although I am not a fan of these 'modern' wheels for our lady. I prefer the SMAC or EPM, RONAL. But when you're racing you want the wider, more sticky tires.
A friend of mine bought a JANTON frame which is similar to the EGLI.

Good luck with your racing endeavours,

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #303 on: September 14, 2009, 04:07:46 PM »
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Aren't we all.... ;D

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #304 on: September 14, 2009, 07:59:32 PM »
Mec,

There was a Fritz Egli racing a Busa with a sidecar at Bub Speed Trials ( Bonneville salt flats), first week of September..

.. and he had stickers, just like yours on his bike :o
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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #305 on: October 11, 2009, 12:37:19 PM »
hello,

back from the race weekend in rijeka. all went fine.

i can tell you, the bike is rocket. when there is a guy riding a segale-kawa, 1200ccm, yoshi stage 2 cams, 33 keihin cr, and this guy walks around my bike the third time, shaking his head and asking how many ccm it does have, and asking how it can be that i passed him on the straight......then it is a sunny day, this makes happy.

friday we had seven practice sessions, four of them had been timed. i participated two of them. the first session i taped a garmin GPS device onto the fuel tank, cause i was curious about the bike´s Vmax on this raceway. the bike was geared 17/42, tires Metzeler roadtec z6.
Vmax was 217km/h at ~8900rpm.

the second session i tried to improve my laptime and achieved 1.48,26. this was good for the first row in the 36 riders field (for this day. saturday a second BMW rider put me to fifth place. polesetter was a Yamaha TR1, followed by two BMWs and a Segale Kawa).

i was very happy with this result and decided to retire from the races. the bike run more than fine and i prefered to watch the races.
pics will come in another thread, if desired.

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #306 on: October 11, 2009, 01:00:25 PM »
MEC,

1:48 is  a pretty good time, specially considering you did it on z6's! (why those road tires BTW?)

like i told you before, in two weeks time we have the season final in franciacorta, you are more than welcome.

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #307 on: October 11, 2009, 02:12:16 PM »
there is a guy in germany, jens hofmann, guzzi dealer, more than skilled rider and often winner in his vintage class, who wins on the racetec tires. he told me about the very good race performance of these tires and said that they would last more than a complete race weekend. that was all info i had, what made me try this tires.
i was happy with the tires. the one and only trouble i had, i wished to have a minimum more grip, but i think thats the wish of every racer.

the polesetting TR1 had battlax bt014r rear and some dunlop in front. is this the better choice?
the racers goal is to have tires with max grip and they have to last the whole race(wekkend)  :)

ad franciacorta:
friend of mine, the owner of our race guzzi will come and watch the races. i guess i will stay at home and work on my stroker project. when things change i will let you know.

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #308 on: October 11, 2009, 02:14:02 PM »


i can tell you, the bike is rocket. when there is a guy riding a segale-kawa, 1200ccm, yoshi stage 2 cams, 33 keihin cr, and this guy walks around my bike the third time, shaking his head and asking how many ccm it does have, and asking how it can be that i passed him on the straight......then it is a sunny day, this makes happy.

representing the honda contingent well!

pics will come in another thread, if desired.

my vote is 'yes' to pix.  ;D
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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #309 on: October 11, 2009, 03:42:07 PM »
hei MEC

PM if you want my cell number so your friend can get in contact, I will be glad to show him around.

there should be plenty of guzzis there and Bruno Scola often comes to help his riders.

Its interesting to hear about the Z6 as race tires, I use them all the time in my two old GSXR's and they really hold very well on the street.

What really surprises me is that they let you put 17" on a vintage racer, in italy we are just allowed 18" and this is the situation in many other countries like the US, UK, etc. So is "grab the flag" different?

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #310 on: October 12, 2009, 02:57:31 AM »
hei MEC

What really surprises me is that they let you put 17" on a vintage racer, in italy we are just allowed 18" and this is the situation in many other countries like the US, UK, etc. So is "grab the flag" different?

hello,

no, no, the metzeler z6 are 18", front and rear.
yes, please PM me your cell number, so that my friend peter can get into contact with you.

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #311 on: October 13, 2009, 02:43:09 PM »
G'Day Mec, I've been away from this thread for awhile now, but I'm still impressed mate, that bike is amazing!

Someone here, (Rob? Frank?) was going to send me some Egli frame drawings awhile ago, as I'd still like to build my own Egli replica. I haven't seen them yet, and I'd really appreciate it if whoever it was who promised them, could send them to me? My email address is sherriffbuck@yahoo.com

I've got a genuine NOS Egli race fairing here and some nice Dunstall bodywork, so all I need is a frame to connect it all together, so if you, or anyone else here can point me in the right direction with some frame plans, I'd be extremely gratefull! Cheers, Terry. ;D 
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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #312 on: February 10, 2010, 12:42:02 PM »
another year, another project:
this bike should be race ready for bikers classics in Spa.

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #313 on: February 10, 2010, 01:28:21 PM »
another year, another project:
this bike should be race ready for bikers classics in Spa.

mec

very nice..... but I think you should come here:

http://www.guzzisti.it/page_builder.php?fileindex=moto/moto_index.txt&filebody=moto/prototipi/MGS01/MGS01_11-02.htm

problem is tha tnobody speaks english in the forum

let me know if you need help from milan, know a few heavy guzzisti here, Scola, Ghezzi, etc...

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #314 on: February 11, 2010, 10:35:54 AM »
thanx for the link.
yes, language is a problem. at least for me :)

thanx for you help.
i do have relatively clear plans, how to build the bike, so everything should go fine.


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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #315 on: February 12, 2010, 01:47:59 PM »
oh boi!!!
another mec build... HOW EXCITING!
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« Reply #316 on: February 12, 2010, 01:59:25 PM »
You are a madman Mec. ;) ;) ;D
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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #317 on: February 12, 2010, 02:31:59 PM »
holy crap, how'd I miss this one. wow! amazing work! if the carpy bike sells for 26k then this one must be worth over 100k, eh?

ha ha.

Mec, I am adding you to my list of role models, all of whom are conveniently on this site.
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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #318 on: May 05, 2010, 09:31:17 AM »
You are a madman Mec. ;) ;) ;D


seems that you are right :)

back from race weekend "grab the flag" pannoniaring.
my egli replica performed fine. battling on the straight with 1260er kawas is not bad at all. on the other hand there was a 820er rickman sohc that seemed to have nearly the same topspeed and acceleration as my 1100er sohc. the rider told me, that he can rev the engine over 11000rpm. in combination with his racing transmission this engine performs incredible well.

in the first 3 practices i laped at 2min18`5". that was good for 6th place in the second row. 40 riders in this class.

sunday morning i decided to do my last practice session and was not willing to push too hard. but there was one rider, i saw a chance to overtake him at the beginning of a turn, i lost the front wheel and crashed. fortunately nobody else was injured but me.

all major parts of the bike seem to be ok (from a first optical check). fuel tank, fairing, seat and a lot of small parts severerly damaged but repairable.

i am suffering a multiple broken scapula and two broken ribs.

curious if i will be able to compete in Spa which will be held at 11-13 of june. in case i am not able to drive, i will be doing a mechanic job.

my friends will help to finish my guzzi-project.


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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #319 on: May 05, 2010, 09:34:57 AM »
oh no!!!  i hope you recover quickly and get that bike back together!!  well if you don't push the limits, you'll never get better eh?  wishing you a speedy recovery
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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #320 on: May 05, 2010, 12:42:31 PM »
Good luck with a fast recovery Mec, perhaps speak to Dr Costa  ;) and hope the bike damage isn't as bad as first thought. That cautionary finger on the clutch lever suggests you learned your craft on a 2-stroke  ;D
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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #321 on: May 05, 2010, 04:18:14 PM »
Gee man.... really sorry to hear.

Hope you have a quick recovery, give yourself time though,

Take care

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #322 on: May 13, 2010, 12:15:04 PM »
That cautionary finger on the clutch lever suggests you learned your craft on a 2-stroke  ;D

no, yes, you are right. i didn´t learn to ride on a two stroke, but i will never forget the suddenly seizing engine of the TZ 350 in the fastest corner of the A1 ring in austria many years ago. it was a great luck to stay on the bike without crashing.


tired of not knowing the lap times instantly?
the weekend at panring my friend and I used the new Stealth GPS2 laptimer of starlane (www.starlane.com).
this is a very interesting device to play with. it shows you all your laptimes (accuracy better than 0.01sec), a red led flashes when you set a new lap record, you can set 3 intermediates and so on....
all datas are saved to your laptop via bluetooth and in combination with the digirace MMX software you can see your path on the track for every lap. you can overlay two or three laps to study your path, your G-loads accelerating and decelerating, G-loads lateral, when you brake or accelerate the shown path is blue or red, max speed, speed on each point of your path.

the digirace software showed me crashing at 96km/h (speed at my previous lap). unfortunately the crash-lap is not showing because i didn´t finish the lap (:
we sent an inquiery to starlane, eventually this lap can made to be visible. i am sure, that the next betaversion of the software will be able to show laps not finished. this would help investigate crash cause.

all in all a help for the serious racer (when you compare your datas with a much quicker rider).

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Re: DIY Egli Sohc 4
« Reply #323 on: May 13, 2010, 12:34:16 PM »
Sorry to hear of the wreck....hope all is well.

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« Reply #324 on: May 13, 2010, 12:58:43 PM »
that stealth unit is SLICK!!!  if i ever spend time on the track, that's a must have!!!  nice information there mec!  how's the recovery going?  bones regrowing?
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