Author Topic: Vintage Mag wheels (Read 85958 times)

Powderman · « **Reply #75 on:** February 25, 2009, 09:46:50 PM »

Steve Storz is still the US distributor for Ceriani, but only some parts are available for these old 35mm forks, Ceriani's are still available through him ,but they are the new 50mm ones, modern, inverted and all that. You probably havent seen my bike in the mags, I live in North Georgia(USA), bike was originally built in Southern Calif in the late 70s.

Ricky_Racer · « **Reply #76 on:** February 26, 2009, 05:48:07 AM »

Nice XLCH, Powderman. Actually the Ceriani 35mm have been remade in Italy for a number of years. Here are only a couple sources..

http://www.motocicliveloci.it/inglese/catalogue/forcelle_uk.htm

http://www.menani.it/menani/index.php?posizione=lista&lingua=inglese&id_cat=16

In the US, they are available through http://www.batorinternational.com and were available through Continental Imports but I can't find a listing for them now.

RR

Powderman · « **Reply #77 on:** February 26, 2009, 06:12:00 AM »

Thanks for the info, RR. Nice to know there is some reproduction stuff out there just in case.

Ricky_Racer · « **Reply #78 on:** February 26, 2009, 06:22:28 AM »

You're welcome, Powderman. Welcome to the SOHC forum. RR

Powderman · « **Reply #79 on:** February 26, 2009, 01:58:00 PM »

Thanks for the welcome,RR. I checked Barons and they no longer carry the Ceriani line, they refered me to Menani.

AHuff · « **Reply #80 on:** March 12, 2009, 01:10:08 PM »

I was really holding out on these hoping they wouldn't exceed my budget, I was wrong.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CB750-mag-wheels-frt-rear-cb-750_W0QQitemZ260372464191QQihZ016QQcategoryZ35601QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

$1200 with almost an hour left.

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #81 on:** March 12, 2009, 01:11:53 PM »

Holy #$%*! That's way over even my shop's budget.

Jim F · « **Reply #82 on:** March 12, 2009, 01:17:10 PM »

Magnesium?

bert96 · « **Reply #83 on:** March 12, 2009, 01:20:50 PM »

why buy them new?

http://www.yamiya750e.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=33_97&products_id=132

Powderman · « **Reply #84 on:** March 12, 2009, 01:54:08 PM »

Sold for $1525.

Powderman · « **Reply #85 on:** March 12, 2009, 02:00:16 PM »

Quote from: big-jim on March 12, 2009, 01:17:10 PM

Magnesium?

I asked the seller ,he said he didnt know ,it wasnt marked anywhere ,which would make me tend to believe they are aluminum, if they were mag it would be cast into the wheel somewhere saying "mag". So I asked him what they weigh,if they are mag the probably weigh about 10 lbs ,if aluminum ,probably 18-20lbs.

Ricky_Racer · « **Reply #86 on:** March 12, 2009, 02:05:00 PM »

Yep, they are aluminum. Heck, my set of Hayashi's is in better shape. $1500? Oh heck yes! You betcha!

RR

Powderman · « **Reply #87 on:** March 12, 2009, 02:05:38 PM »

Quote from: 754 on January 02, 2009, 09:45:07 AM

Spot quiz:

Are Kimtab Snowflake mags, mag or alu?

Which factory bike used Kintabs as OEM wheels?

How many MC brands (makers) used Morris Mags as OEM wheels (or as an accessory), and what models used them?

The early editions were aluminum and the later (til they went bankrupt in 1976) were magnesium,mine are mag and weigh 8/9 lbs F/R respectively, the aluminum ones came in around 18-20 lbs. I have the last set sold out of the factory when they went bankrupt.

Jim F · « **Reply #88 on:** March 12, 2009, 04:48:34 PM »

My Magnesium EPMs where half that cost..................wow

but its what ever someone is willing to pay

754 · « **Reply #89 on:** March 12, 2009, 05:26:06 PM »

Only 1 more month on the Q..
which OE manufacturer used Kimtab wheels on their bikes

& I will have to reveal the answer...

Ricky_Racer · « **Reply #90 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:24:03 PM »

Rokon!

Powderman · « **Reply #91 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:26:25 PM »

Quote from: big-jim on March 12, 2009, 04:48:34 PM

My Magnesium EPMs where half that cost..................wow

but its what ever someone is willing to pay

My Kimtab mags with dual disc front , single disc rear with all brackets, lines, master cylinders, rotors, sprocket and calipers new were $415.00. But that was 33 years ago.

754 · « **Reply #92 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:32:13 PM »

Ricky Racer is Right !

Now which factory or Factories, used Morris wheels on OEM factory street bikes..?

Powderman · « **Reply #93 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:38:46 PM »

Ricky just beat me to it, I believe also that they were put on a few Rokons. I just got off the phone with the designer and patent holder of the Kimtab and he is unaware of any Kimtabs that were made of aluminum, though he says they may done some for road bikes in aluminum that would have been 50% heavier than the mag. I was incorrect in my earlier post about early and late, they were definately magnesium at their inseption and I know the last set they sold(mine) were also magnesium.

Powderman · « **Reply #94 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:40:10 PM »

Quote from: 754 on March 12, 2009, 06:32:13 PM

Ricky Racer is Right !

Now which factory or Factories, used Morris wheels on OEM factory street bikes..?

Harley Davidson for one and I think there may have been 2 or 3 others.Though not a street bike ,but the 76 Kawasaki KR750 race bike ran Morris Mags.

754 · « **Reply #95 on:** March 12, 2009, 07:07:10 PM »

You are so very close and quite right so far. Do you know which model or models?

Quite a few factory rod racers used them.

one OEM manufacturer offered Morris Wheels as an accessory or Option on a few models..

Ricky_Racer · « **Reply #96 on:** March 12, 2009, 07:12:17 PM »

My only qualm with Kimtabs (other than the fact that old Magnesium scares the bejesus out of me) is that they all are so skinny. I can't help it; I like some decent rubber under my bikes.

Powderman, tell the Designer and Patent Holder to get someone to start casting the old Kimtab design in aluminum with a little width and he can retire rich in the glorious sunshine of Arizona. But don't give the pattern to Jesse James, he'll make a couple sets and destroy the pattern just like he did with the wider Morris' from Performance Machine. $:-\$ RR

Ricky_Racer · « **Reply #97 on:** March 12, 2009, 07:15:38 PM »

Triumph, for one...

RR

Quote from: 754 on March 12, 2009, 07:07:10 PM

You are so very close and quite right so far. Do you know which model or models?

Quite a few factory rod racers used them.

one OEM manufacturer offered Morris Wheels as an accessory or Option on a few models..

754 · « **Reply #98 on:** March 12, 2009, 07:21:45 PM »

Hmm. I was thinking of at least 2 other bikes, brands have been mentioned..

But I figured that there was others, which Tri model?

........................................................................................
So thats the end of wide Morris ..

.. what a drag...

...................................................................................

Was at a shop the other day, had a really light front wheel, spun aluminum.. he said PM, I said Mitchell by PM (they bought them) Told him to ask Roland or Perry if he talks to them..

Nitrohunter has a set of Mitchells from PM on his turbo cb750..

Powderman · « **Reply #99 on:** March 12, 2009, 07:28:43 PM »

Quote from: Ricky_Racer on March 12, 2009, 07:12:17 PM

My only qualm with Kimtabs (other than the fact that old Magnesium scares the bejesus out of me) is that they all are so skinny. I can't help it; I like some decent rubber under my bikes.

Powderman, tell the Designer and Patent Holder to get someone to start casting the old Kimtab design in aluminum with a little width and he can retire rich in the glorious sunshine of Arizona. But don't give the pattern to Jesse James, he'll make a couple sets and destroy the pattern just like he did with the wider Morris' from Performance Machine. $:-\$ RR

SHHH, I am in the process of doing just that, the original wheel was cast Magnesium then CNC machined on the lips, I just checked into doing a repro in billet Mag and CNC the whole wheel which could be done today,but a 4" thick 20"X20" slab of Magnesium is $1600 and you would waste 90% of it, So I am looking for a foundry to redo them in cast Mag and Alum. My Kimtabs are 3"x19" fornt and 4"x18" rear, I agree ,I would like a larger tire also but cant fit much bigger on my old Sporty swingarm. I asked permission from the dsigner if I could repro them and he advised me that the patent was only good for 20-25 years ,it has long since expired and any body could make them ,dont need his permission ,but gave me his blessing. With the price of some billet wheels today , I agree there could be some serious money to be made making bigger Kimtabs. I have also learned from metallurgists that time alone will not make the Mag brittle andthat heating them to 500F for half an hour will bring them back to their original hardness. My brother is in the process of recasting the Ceriani fork trees and legs. Between the 2 of us we should have a nice combo , new Cerianis with new Kimtabs.

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