Topic: Ins't it funny

[eldar]

People come on here and ask for ideas and and such and get cut down for it. Then those that try to defend the spirit of experimentation that so many here claim to support, get cut down as well. What is even funnier is when the reason given is because the person is so knowledgeable or is above 50 and so automatically knows what they are talking about.

is it that they have tried it all OR is it that they are stuck in their way of thinking?

I do not think it is age actually. There are a number of people that customize and are in their 50s and 60s. There are some that are not even 20 and stuck in a particular rut.
What is really funny is that most of use have never met more than a couple other people on this site yet are so quick to call into question a persons skills. the "racers" are especially bad about this. How many were actual "honda factory" racers? Probably not many. How many here had access to the R&D departments of honda? Probably not too many. How many people in the honda R&D departments are there solely to experiment with a bike and all the possible configurations it could be made into? Probably very few or none.  So of course it falls to the average guy to creates what he sees in his mind. Could it be dangerous? Of course. Could it be awesome? Absolutely.  So why then all the grief given when someone wants to make serious mods to their bike? Certainly we do not want to see anyone die. Even if it was ed, I would not want to see him die. BUY, even with a stock bike, it is always a possible outcome.

Would I take a cb and turn it into a unicycle? Of course not as that would probably be certain death or at least pain. By all means point out possible safety issues or trouble spots that might be hard or impossible to overcome, but at least be decent and civil about it. Or offer alternate possibilities that might appeal.

When a motorcycle reaches a certain stature, it becomes a candidate for customs. the cb is such a bike.  The purists have to accept that. If they cannot bear the thought of a custom cb, then stay off the custom threads.

yes I am somewhat guilty of not always being decent however I rarely start it. Even so that is not an excuse. Every so often, I have to remind myself of this.

So as of this posting, I will resolve to be a decent person even when I disagree with someone. The downside is there will be people that think they can do as they wish. Pity.

[SD750F]

Thunder,

We Dakotans think alike. 

Scott

[FunJimmy]

A wee bit late issuing your New Year’s resolution to the world isn’t it?
Fcuk the opinions of others.
You are always going to encounter those narrow minded people no matter what the topic.

I totally agree that creative freedoms should be cherished and encouraged. If we all marched to the same drummer the world would be a pretty boring place indeed, but a little controversy tossed in here and there creates some excitement. Civility is the key here! Just because you don’t agree with someone else’s idea or opinion doesn’t give you the right to be mean spirited and abusive.

Personally I like the customs best. Classics are cool, but there is so much personal expression seen in the projects forum that I can’t stay away.

Later
FJ 

[void909]

Thunder,

Your my hero.

Creativity has no limits.

Lets build a unicycle

[eldar]

Being as I am paying off student loans, I do not have much cash. If I did, there would be mods going into my ride too. the stock look is ok but it is stock. Everyone who has had that model has had it stock. I do have a tall 70s style sissy bar and women love it. it is nice that they do not have to always hold on and they can ride in comfort. Depending on how taxes turn out, I might be able to port my engine, maybe even cam it. Some new coils and such but those are small things. I happen to like the look I have but I sure support anyone making mods.

You build the unicycle, I will ride a trike with a landing pad for you!

[fishhead]

is it that they have tried it all OR is it that they are stuck in their way of thinking?

 No, neither, its just that some people get tired of "hearing about what someone wants to do" and how awesome its going to be when its done.

 Don't tell me what your going to do and how awesome its gonna be when your finished, show me what you've done. That will impress me alot more than talking about it.
   It's kind of like "put your money where your mouth is and stop spouting off about it".

[eldar]

But when a person is asking for ideas and such, would you flame them for that? Same principle. Besides, no one forces you to read those threads do they?

[fishhead]

But when a person is asking for ideas and such, would you flame them for that? Same principle.

No, no flaming for ideas and such, it's just the on and on "talk about it" and " I photoshopped it, so it can be done" that gets real old, real quick.
 Basically what I am saying is stop talking about and prove everybody wrong by doing what they said can't be done. I want to see it too.

Besides, no one forces you to read those threads do they?

Nope.

[eldar]

So dont read it then. Problem solved.
besides, I DO like to read about others ideas and a photoshop image helps out.

[upperlake04]

..yes I am somewhat guilty of not always being decent..

 What??  I always thought you were a sweetheart Eldar       

[eldar]

Only to you my dear!

[cbr-eric]

I agree, flaming for no real deserved reason is just not worth the effort t odo or to hear.  I was into classic saabs for a while (had an 88 900SPG) and had a very similar problem. after a while I was tired of hearing people question me also having one of those terrible honda civics that I had at the same time.  hey, I was enjoying cars in general and the civic was stock and VERY reliable. the saab was a project and a lot of the old systems on those cars (like all the vacuum lines with the turbo) are pretty problematic and need constant attention.  after beign ragged on enough times and getting tired of the chest beating threads about how someones saab was the fastest thing on the planet and a civic or and other "ricer" was stupid for thinking they were faster I decided to sell the car and all the old rare parts I had aquired.  screw em if they don't like what you are doing or are into, you are doing it for you.  it might not be my taste to have a giant and LOUD exhaust on my civic, or to have it covered in vinyl but if it makes you happy have fun. whatever.  if you want to chop and old bike, do it!  if you want to drive your sports car in the rain and beat it, just don't tell me about it   so yeah, lets see the photoshop of the uni-cb.... call it the cb1 750

[Retro Rocket]

Hey Fishhead, not meaning to be argumentative but all the talking sorts out the do's and don'ts. A lot of these guys have some wonderful ideas but some of them are almost impossible to do, so by asking and talking about things not only do they get a better design but they have learned by the experience as well and i thought that was the purpose of these forums. I would like to know why you want everyone to "prove themselves" most of these guys have nothing to prove and just want to experiment with a relatively cheap motorcycle. If we all lived by the "put up or shut up" way of thinking a lot of great ideas would have never gotten off the ground. If experimentation and customizing isn't your thing, great, just don't be so demanding on the guys learning from their experience......and ours!!

Mick

[mark]

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Would I take a cb and turn it into a unicycle? ........... By all means............

When a motorcycle reaches a certain stature, it becomes a candidate for customs.

Being as I am paying off student loans, I do not have much cash. If I did, there would be mods going into my ride too. the stock look is ok but it is stock.

your unicycle would save an immediate 50% on tires... wheels.... brakes....

 

[eldar]

But it is the initial cost that would kill me.

[333]

Unicycle?

[eldar]

Now imagine someone shooting by you on the interstate on something like that! I would expect a few accidents from rubberneckers

[cbr-eric]

lol, is that from something like judge dredd??

[void909]

Ive seen it a few times around the internet. I think its just a concept but i could be wrong.

[fishhead]

So dont read it then. Problem solved.

 You could do the same too ,elder. I don't know why you feel the need to jump in and argue, call names, and generally "stir the pot".

Hey Fishhead, not meaning to be argumentative but all the talking sorts out the do's and don'ts. A lot of these guys have some wonderful ideas but some of them are almost impossible to do, so by asking and talking about things not only do they get a better design but they have learned by the experience as well and i thought that was the purpose of these forums. I would like to know why you want everyone to "prove themselves" most of these guys have nothing to prove and just want to experiment with a relatively cheap motorcycle. If we all lived by the "put up or shut up" way of thinking a lot of great ideas would have never gotten off the ground. If experimentation and customizing isn't your thing, great, just don't be so demanding on the guys learning from their experience......and ours!!

Mick

Once a person has gotten the feedback thay have asked for (Can this be done,will it work, etc.)and claim "thats what I'm going to do" then it is time to "put up or shut up". There is no need to continue to talk about it, just do it. I realize that these things take time, but time wasted talking about it is time that could be used getting it done.
 If a "great idea" never gets off the ground, maybe it wasn't such a "great idea" after all. Maybe thats why people just want to talk about their "great ideas" and not actually take the steps needed to bring their "great idea" to reality.
 That's my opinion, like it or not.

[tramp]

as has been said
if i want to make a custom out of a classic thats my right
if i want to restore to original, thats my right
if someone makes a unicycle out of a motorcycle i have the right to demand pics
this is america, do what you want just be happy with the final product
as the hooker said to the little guy"who are you going to please with that?"   ME

[eldar]

If you notice though fish, I rarely start it. I did not start it the last time either. I was jumped on, I stood up for myself. Is that wrong? Am I not old enough to do that? Well I will. Sorry I guess I was raised badly. I do not respect based on age.

I CHOSE to read it. I got involved in tossing about ideas. I also told geeto to lighten up in a NON-hostile way. He blows up so I have the right to do so as well. Don't you agree?

What is funny is that since you do not like the exchange of ideas for whatever reason, that does not mean it should stop. There have been MANY builds by others here that continued on for many more pages. I do stay out of a lot of the project threads but not many talk about putting on 21 inch wheels so it is something different

I guess maybe AGE determines if a person should have an opinion here? I guess since I have not around to own one of these bikes new, I do not have an opinion?

If that is true, what is the age then? How old does a person have to be to have an opinion on this forum?
 

[fishhead]

If you notice though fish, I rarely start it. I did not start it the last time either. I was jumped on, I stood up for myself. Is that wrong? Am I not old enough to do that? Well I will. Sorry I guess I was raised badly. I do not respect based on age.

 No, but you continued on llike a pissed off geriatric old lady who missed her cab ride to Thelmas house on bridge night.

I CHOSE to read it. I got involved in tossing about ideas. I also told geeto to lighten up in a NON-hostile way. He blows up so I have the right to do so as well. Don't you agree?

 Sure, If you want to lower yourself to the level of the person whom you feel you are miles above, Blow up in the same way the "lesser" person did. That'll show them who's boss.

My opinion is not always right or what people want to hear, but you, Smell-dar, Master of the Whinning Old Bridge Lady Knitting Club Thunder, want to shove your opinion down everybodys throat, weather its a 630 VS. 530 chain,21 inch wheels or what ever.
You are always the one to get your panties in the biggest bunch.
What's really "funny" in this "isn't it funny" thread, is when there is a blow up on the board, You, Smell-dar are usually right in the middle of it.

[eldar]

Now who is getting their granny panties in a bunch? I see a lot of names from you, none from me. Why is that? Why is it ok when others shoce their opinions down peoples throats, it is ok but not ok if I do it? Where is this double standard? You talk about me dropping to their level and look at yourself now. I do not push my opinions any more than anyone else. So it much be an age thing. That is the only thing I can come up with.

Maybe I should say I have raced for 20 years. Would that be better? Just asking.

[FunJimmy]

While I do find this highly entertaining, can’t you agree to disagree?

Opinions are like armpits and a$$holes!
We all have them, and they all stink!

FunJimmy