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Offline Demon67

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2 x 4's
« on: January 22, 2009, 10:01:14 AM »
Ok guys with the wealth of experience out there, has anyone flooded if so what are the long term effects on 2 x 4, studs do they warp and twist do they pick up mildew, over christmas our place flooded to about 18" and I'm wondering about long term problems, the basement wall are unfinished, just studs in place I'm fairly sure I'm going to claim for the receptacles which were under water, I think they'll corrode and be a problem in the future not sure about the 14/2 it has a plastic sheathing so it may be OK except for the last couple of inches which I'll strip back. I don't really need tech info, just anecdotal for when I argue with insurance company ( Economical Mutual )
Thanks for any thought and feed back.
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2009, 10:03:54 AM »
It depends on how long they were soaked. I've been in the same situation...the drywall was ruined, of course, but the studs themselves came out of it ok. Having said that, I had the wet out within a few hours of it happening.
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2009, 10:06:52 AM »
it's unlikely that they will warp (that typically happens soon after they are uncrated at Lowes), but if the moisture stays on there for a while, they will mildew.

Wood + water + any amount of heat = mildew.
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2009, 10:25:00 AM »
Once the wood dries though, the mildew will usually die. same with mold. You may want to get a dehumidifier to help out.
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2009, 12:15:24 PM »
Thanks they were wet for at least 4 day before we got the water out and damp for about a week.
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2009, 12:18:24 PM »
Mold dies when you dry it out. So unless the board has mold through it, they should be ok.
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2009, 01:20:49 PM »
If you are concerned about mold, you can also wipe the wood down with solution of Clorox and water. I'm not sure I would assume the wiring is OK. Water seeping into and behind the sheathing could take a very long time to dry. You might want to claim it also.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2009, 01:31:32 PM »
You can also put a coat of kilz paint on the wood once it is dry.
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2009, 02:08:20 PM »
Quote from: Demon67 on January 22, 2009, 10:01:14 AM
..... I'm fairly sure I'm going to claim for the receptacles which were under water, I think they'll corrode and be a problem in the future not sure about the 14/2 .....just anecdotal for when I argue with insurance company.....

I'd show 'em the pile of 14/2 with soggy ends and let them buy the 12/2 that replaces it.....

..... unless you're just paying premiums to 'share your wealth'.

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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2009, 02:34:49 PM »
Mold and mildew can de treated with a bleach solution, and is usually applied with a sprayer.  Use the KILZ primer if you have to repaint anything that has mold or mildew staining.  Just be sure you get the moldy stuff out of the house ASAP.  The electrical sould be thoroughly checked out, and I would recommend a licensed electrician if you have any doubts.  Be sure you turn up the heat and keep it warm enough to dry out with plenty of fans blowing 24/7 until things are totally dried out.
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2009, 02:48:48 PM »
Do you have a big time deductible on that policy???

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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2009, 05:28:13 PM »
Quote from: eldar, Master of the K8 Thunder! on January 22, 2009, 10:25:00 AM
Once the wood dries though, the mildew will usually die. same with mold. You may want to get a dehumidifier to help out.

Depending on how much and how long the water was in there I would strongly suggest renting a dehumidifier for a few days and just let run down there. Wiping it all down with bleach after the dehumidifier is a good way to make sure all the mold is killed right away so nothing can continue to develop.
There a companies that specialize in this stuff and usually bill the insurance directly. the local one here is Puroclean, I think they might be nation wide.
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2009, 04:46:51 AM »
Hadn't thought about Kilz but its a thought, only downside is with bleach or Kilz the fumes might kill me off to, ( too many years of smoky engine shops ) so I may have to wait until spring so I can open every thing up. As far as the wire goes I'm wiring my own house and maybe talk to Ont hydro to see what they recommend and go ahead and replace it any how, I'm getting to the stage and age when I can see not having the skill or strength and or mental ability to correct wiring problems in the future (it's F-ing great to get old ) and have a $500 deductable replacement policy.
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2009, 06:13:50 AM »
I am sure you know this but if you do the wiring your self, use at least 12 gauge wire. that is probably code in your area anyways.
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2009, 06:16:12 AM »
Demon, I thought the money grubbing bastards had passed a bill stating that any in home wiring now had to be done by a licensed electrician? Or were they just talking about it and haven't actually made it law yet?

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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2009, 06:41:01 AM »
Quote from: Demon67 on January 23, 2009, 04:46:51 AM
Hadn't thought about Kilz but its a thought, only downside is with bleach or Kilz the fumes might kill me off to..

The solution of Clorox need not be too strong, a 3-5% solution would do (e.g. a half cup per gallon of water), and as someone mentioned, one of those garden sprayers set to a mist would do the trick. Some ventilation would help though.
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2009, 06:59:48 AM »
Ventilation? Here in the north? Bob you must be joking! ;D That will certainly wait till spring then! ;)
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2009, 07:04:00 AM »
Quote from: eldar, Master of the K8 Thunder! on January 23, 2009, 06:59:48 AM
Ventilation? Here in the north? Bob you must be joking! ;D That will certainly wait till spring then! ;)

Hey, whip up a hot toddy and throw open that window. ;D
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2009, 07:06:24 AM »
My78K yes they have passed a bill but if you are the homeowner you can do it yourself and dear old mother hydro is supposed to be a consultant now if you F-up there will be much sucking of gums and told you so's and you'll have to do it over again, again etc, but yes if you have a permit you can.
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2009, 07:09:08 AM »
Bob if I could throw open that window and have some one thaw me out in spring I wouldn't worry about mold or mildew.
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2009, 03:59:04 PM »
Thanks for clrifying Bill. Although I have to admit that I would not be at all surprised if you needed to pay them to come out to "inspect"!!!

Dennis

P.S. It still chaps my arse that I have to pay that damn "debt retirement chrage"!!!! NOBODY pays for ME to get out of debt!!!
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2009, 04:13:56 AM »
my place has been flooded twice... The studs will be fine... as will the wiring...the bigger question is WHY did your new House flood? and should you be building it elsewhere?

K ( my business is in a flood zone... so if we get a 100 yr flood I get his... Hmmm )
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2009, 04:15:40 AM »
My78k you get the price of the inspections thrown in when you pay for the permit and don't start me up on debt retirement charges I used to live close to Bruce nuclear and some of the creatures that were drawing over a 100K, I personally wouldn't let near anything more complicated than mud pies for the fear of them F-ing it up severely and the ones that never worked a full week, just over time on the weekends and I have to pay for their existence and retirement with a debt retirement charge. Enough! I'll just get so pissed off that my day will be ruined. On a happier note I hope that I shed some light on the inspection thing.
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Re: 2 x 4's
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2009, 04:37:47 AM »
Keithturk as far as flooding goes we had heavy rains when the foundation was being put in and from the level of the water I decided hat the house should be lifted a foot and after it was finished it was actually 18" up from where the architect wanted it, any how I walked the property in the spring before we bought it and it was dry so I figured we should be OK, but there was this combination of snow load and then rain over Christmas and we were away, also there was a power outage at the time, so 18" of water when we got home and the plans for bedrooms in the basement and the insulation scheme are being rethought and oh yeah according to Ont Hydro and NEMA the sockets and wire should be replaced, Google NEMA and read what they say about it, you might want to think about lifting your electrical stuff ( equipment ). As far as the house being built some where else, I think Nevis in the Leeward Islands would be nice but my wife wouldn't be close the kids, so you know how it goes. L.O.L. ;)
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