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Offline Hinz

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1976 CB750K Cafe/Restoration Project (lotsa pics)
« on: January 23, 2009, 10:57:10 PM »
Here's a thread for my most recent project.  It's a 1976 CB750K that I picked up for $300.  For some reason I don't have pictures of the bike before I tore it apart but trust me, it was pretty nasty except for the paint. 
Well I guess I'll just start posting the progress....

oh, if you just want to look at pictures, I keep them all here...
http://www.gtluke.com/mycustomvan/gallery/main.php/v/cb750/
« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 07:16:25 AM by Hinz »
1976 CB750K
Has learned so far that..."complete" gaskets are never complete no matter where you get them, VHT Silver Case Paint is just as durable as painting your motor with chalk and cheap tire irons used with rim protectors are useless on 30 year old tires.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Cafe/Restoration Project
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 06:22:17 AM »
So with most of my bike projects, I started by pulling the carbs....
The previous owner claimed to have cleaned them a few months before I purchased the bike. However, I know first hand that old CB750 carbs need more than a simple "cleaning". The throttle was also sticking at WOT so I knew something wasn't kosher. So, off came the carbs and down to the workbench where I could disassemble them and keep track of all the loose bits. Here are the carbs as they came off of the bike.

You may notice something off in the next pic. The carb plunger in the leftmost carb was not sliding in unison with the other 3 when the throttle linkage was moved. It was immediately apparent that this wasn't going to be a routine cleaning. From here on out we'll call that one the "4th carb" since it was the last one I disassembled.

Naturally, the bowls came off first and only pictures can describe the mess that was waiting for me. Three out of the four carbs looked salvageable but the "4th carb" was a disaster. I can only assume that the bike was left sitting on its kickstand and the old gas (and other garbage) collected in the bowl thus creating these heinous stalactites. The candy like coating was brittle and everywhere. The float was frozen in time and all the jets were plugged solid.


Next the tops of the carbs came off and set aside. When I got to the infamous "4th carb", I discovered why the plunger was not moving with the other three. I can only guess that the gunk in the main jet caused the needle to stick and then somebody forced the throttle open thus bending the retainer inside the plunger. Not the end of the world thou, as that retainer can be bent back into place.

The jets were then removed and left to soak in a bath of "carb dip" for the next 2 days. In these tins, (purchased at the Dollar Store) I was able to organize the hardware according to which carb they came out of. Very handy, cheap and disposable.

After soaking in the carb dip, the jets seemed nice and clean however the idle jets were still plugged and needed some further assistance. I used the following tool to open them up and clean out any leftover gunk that the soak didn't take care of. It's just a piece of wire stripped down to one strand of copper. Once you get the wire thru the jet, I spin the jet on the wire while spraying either opening with carb cleaner or degreaser. Repeat until you can see light thru the jet.

Here's my cool new parts washer that I picked up from Harbor Freight. It's their newer 6.5 Gallon model. Right now I have 1 Gallon of Simple Green in it and that's it. It works great for the small stuff!

So back to our troublemaker, the infamous "4th carb". Against my better judgment, I decided to soak the entire carb (float and all) in the carb dip. I don't normally like to do this since the floats are plastic but I didn't see any other realistic way to remove the crispy candy coating that seemed to be plaguing this one carb.

Side note: I previously soaked the float bowls in the carb dip and it completely cleaned all the nastiness from the aluminum so I knew it would at least do SOMETHING.

I stripped the carb of as much as possible and into the dip it went. There it sat for a couple of hours. In the meantime, I stripped the other three carbs to the bare housing and prepped them to also be dipped. Once I felt the "4th carb" had been in the dip long enough, I took it out and tried to remove the float that was still pretty seized to the brass pin. Using a small punch and a hammer I carefully started to get the pin to move...

Side note: This technique may seem excessive for something as delicate as a carburetor however, the brass pins on all the other carbs wouldn't budge without some "coercion" also.

The brass pin seemed to be on its way out and I was just about to breathe a breath of fresh air when this happened...

It looks like the aluminum was just too corroded to take the force of the hammering and one of the ears that holds up the float broke off. Looking back, it probably would have been better to drill out the brass pin and replaced it with a new one later but I think this carb was doomed from the get-go. Oh well, hindsight is always 20-20.  So the carbs are on hold now for a little while.  I bought a damaged set of carbs cheap on ebay from a '75 and will eventually make a Frankenstein rack of carbs when the motor is done.
1976 CB750K
Has learned so far that..."complete" gaskets are never complete no matter where you get them, VHT Silver Case Paint is just as durable as painting your motor with chalk and cheap tire irons used with rim protectors are useless on 30 year old tires.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Cafe/Restoration Project
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 06:58:03 AM »
So, on to the engine.
Here she is as she sits on the stand.  The previous owner somehow broke a sparkplug off in the #1 cylinder and THEN somehow broke an EZout in there trying to remove the broken spark plug.  So insead of making it the trifecta (spark plug/EZout/drill) of broken stuff in there, I decided to just get a used head and swap it out.
The broken EZout





It's gonna need a lot of work and A LOT of painting & polishing.

A quick pic inside the motor...


More polished parts.  Some more polished than others.



The cylinder head all painted.  I did a quick sanding job on the fins (nothing too crazy) and then masked the outer edge of each one individually with 1/16" masking tape.  For the barrel fins I tried painting them followed by sanding off the paint to get the polished fin look but the masking tape trick worked better.  You can find the 1/16" masking tape at a hobby store where they sell model airplane supplies. Tedious work but the end result was much cleaner.


More assembly.


A really bad pic but it's all I got for now.




« Last Edit: August 25, 2009, 01:33:01 PM by Hinz »
1976 CB750K
Has learned so far that..."complete" gaskets are never complete no matter where you get them, VHT Silver Case Paint is just as durable as painting your motor with chalk and cheap tire irons used with rim protectors are useless on 30 year old tires.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Cafe/Restoration Project
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2009, 07:09:49 AM »
This section is reserved for polishing techniques and tips.

Took the sprocket cover off and began the polishing...
Here's how the cover looked as it came off the motor.

Ewwwww.

After a quick run thru the parts washer...


Now after some glass bead blasting...

I didn't bother blasting the entire back side since this won't be seen and it's just gonna get greasy again.

After the bead blasting, you can really see the surface imperfections in the aluminum.

To smooth out the pitting, I use 80 grit greasless compound from Caswell Plating.  

First I start with a Dremel equiped with a 1/2 soft felt buff (cheap on ebay) to get into all the tight areas.

Then I use the same 80 grit greasless compound on a 6" sewn buffing wheel to hit up the larger areas.

Next it's 120 grit greasless compound, applied just like the 80 grit.

Then, 400 grit greasless compound...This is the point where I'm about 8 hours in so far and ready to throw in the towel.  However you start to see results once you switch to the Black Emery compound.

Now it's on to the Black Emery bar applied using a 6" sewn wheel and a 1/2" soft felt buff on the Dremel.  The shine is finally starting to show itself and inspiration is renewed.


I still have about 8 hours of polishing left to go for this piece.
stay tuned for more...
« Last Edit: August 25, 2009, 01:34:33 PM by Hinz »
1976 CB750K
Has learned so far that..."complete" gaskets are never complete no matter where you get them, VHT Silver Case Paint is just as durable as painting your motor with chalk and cheap tire irons used with rim protectors are useless on 30 year old tires.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Cafe/Restoration Project (lotsa pics)
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2009, 07:17:53 AM »
For the Wheels.
I'm doing the GL1000 wheel/fork swap. The first thing was to disasseble the rear wheel since the new rear rim is 17" and needs new spokes.
"Son, we can do this the easy way or the hard way..."

"The EASY way"

Into the parts washer.

Clean enough for now, I'll polish them later.

Removing the bearing retainer.  More on that here http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=47855.0


stay tuned for more.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 07:25:28 AM by Hinz »
1976 CB750K
Has learned so far that..."complete" gaskets are never complete no matter where you get them, VHT Silver Case Paint is just as durable as painting your motor with chalk and cheap tire irons used with rim protectors are useless on 30 year old tires.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Cafe/Restoration Project (lotsa pics)
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2009, 06:51:39 PM »
finally some pics of the frame.
I forgot my digi cam behind so these are mostly cell phone pics from my G1. I apologize for the quality.

De-greasing the frame using regular Simple Green concentrate and a dish brush.



After some paint stripper and sand blasting the rust areas.  I used the "Aircraft Stripper" you find at any PepBoys.


After painting with VHT Black Satin Rollbar paint.  Much more durable than their motor case paint.


The motor back in.  Yay!


I'm still working on the swing arm and misc. frame pieces so check back for updates. 
 
« Last Edit: August 25, 2009, 01:18:17 PM by Hinz »
1976 CB750K
Has learned so far that..."complete" gaskets are never complete no matter where you get them, VHT Silver Case Paint is just as durable as painting your motor with chalk and cheap tire irons used with rim protectors are useless on 30 year old tires.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Cafe/Restoration Project (lotsa pics)
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2009, 06:55:54 PM »
looking good bro. i wish i had that much time and patience to buff my alloy up!

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Re: 1976 CB750K Cafe/Restoration Project (lotsa pics)
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 06:57:12 PM »
I don't have much of either but I just quit smoking so I need SOMETHING to keep busy.  hahahah.  8)
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Has learned so far that..."complete" gaskets are never complete no matter where you get them, VHT Silver Case Paint is just as durable as painting your motor with chalk and cheap tire irons used with rim protectors are useless on 30 year old tires.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Cafe/Restoration Project (lotsa pics)
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2009, 07:14:07 PM »
aaahhh... so you guys are over here now.
hinz, you got your work cut out for you. thats alot to polish man. and those carbs look like you pulled them up from the titanic. good luck.     (a couple people on here have been soaking them in coke.  ...or was it pepsi?)
don't take me too seriously.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Cafe/Restoration Project (lotsa pics)
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2009, 01:16:14 PM »
added some pics and info to the Frame and Engine sections.
project is taking looooooonger than expected.  :-\
« Last Edit: August 25, 2009, 01:36:13 PM by Hinz »
1976 CB750K
Has learned so far that..."complete" gaskets are never complete no matter where you get them, VHT Silver Case Paint is just as durable as painting your motor with chalk and cheap tire irons used with rim protectors are useless on 30 year old tires.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Cafe/Restoration Project (lotsa pics)
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2009, 06:37:36 PM »
project is taking looooooonger than expected.  :-\

They always do. I thought I'd get mine done in 6 months, tops ... end result was nearly 2 years.

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Re: 1976 CB750K Cafe/Restoration Project (lotsa pics)
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2009, 07:09:49 PM »
Thanks for posting your progress they gave me hope and optimism.. except for the polishing lol I like the way your alloy parts looked after the media blasting!