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I Like My Jawas, But Hondas Are Still High On My List And Look At This One!
« on: January 27, 2009, 07:45:05 PM »


      A 450 DOHC engine to have (if you HAVE the bucks!

     
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Re: I Like My Jawas, But Hondas Are Still High On My List And Look At This One!
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2009, 07:47:48 PM »
no pics my end just one of those wee boxes with a cross in it ?
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Re: I Like My Jawas, But Hondas Are Still High On My List And Look At This One!
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2009, 08:11:47 PM »
Quote from: scunny on January 27, 2009, 07:47:48 PM
no pics my end just one of those wee boxes with a cross in it ?

I see it ok - many times I have to log in to see photos, but not this one.
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Re: I Like My Jawas, But Hondas Are Still High On My List And Look At This One!
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2009, 08:56:35 PM »
I have scunnies problem, shape yerself Billy ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: I Like My Jawas, But Hondas Are Still High On My List And Look At This One!
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2009, 06:56:32 AM »
How's this:


Pretty sweet Bill  8)

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Re: I Like My Jawas, But Hondas Are Still High On My List And Look At This One!
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2009, 07:45:22 AM »
Quote from: mattcb350f on January 28, 2009, 06:56:32 AM
How's this:


Pretty sweet Bill  8)

 Matt.

           Thanks for the assist Matt. ;) I "Previewed" it before I posted it and it seemed okay, not sure what the deal is (or was). If it'd just have been Sam who couldn't see it, I'd be wondering if he'd "Tied One On" last night and maybe his head wasn't on straight just yet! ;D ::)  Just kidding with ya Sam, "Can You See It Now?" ;)

           scunny, hope YOU are able to cast an eye on it now too! ;)

            I agree Matt, Pretty Sweet at that! 8) ;) Like to hear that one wind out AND feel the Power! 8) That was posted over on the hondatwins.net and I just HAD to bring it over here and share for those who'd also appreciate it. ;)

                             Take care Guys, Bill
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Re: I Like My Jawas, But Hondas Are Still High On My List And Look At This One!
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2009, 07:47:04 AM »
About 20 years ago there was a shop here on Long Island that had a 4 valve per cylinder water cooled head for 450DOHC. It was in the dislpay case for a long time.
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Re: I Like My Jawas, But Hondas Are Still High On My List And Look At This One!
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2009, 07:54:17 AM »
Gotta love 'em. Here is one from Hansens site.


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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2009, 07:59:41 AM »
Quote from: ken736cc on January 28, 2009, 07:47:04 AM
About 20 years ago there was a shop here on Long Island that had a 4 valve per cylinder water cooled head for 450DOHC. It was in the dislpay case for a long time.

         Whoa! :o Bet That was quite a sight.... AND quite expensive! ;D 
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2009, 08:05:43 AM »
Quote from: Maxacceleration on January 28, 2009, 07:54:17 AM
Gotta love 'em. Here is one from Hansens site.




         Oh Yeah, MIGHTY NICE indeed! 8)  Matter of fact, that's where the one I posted, is from also. I guess the one that I posted, isn't as "All Out" as the one you put on here. :) I wouldn't turn either on of them down. One of the members over on hondatwins.com is checking into what he might be able to do, as far as getting a spectaculor 450 engine for his build. 8)
             
            Myself, by just LOOKING at thse engines, just puts me in AWE! :o 8) ;) 
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Re: I Like My Jawas, But Hondas Are Still High On My List And Look At This One!
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2009, 08:09:15 AM »
Yes indeed!
I can only dream of have a 450 built like that. I know where two DOHC 450's sit right now...
Cha ching?...

Perfect for this? Damn...


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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2009, 08:17:24 AM »
Quote from: Maxacceleration on January 28, 2009, 08:09:15 AM
Yes indeed!
I can only dream of have a 450 built like that. I know where two DOHC 450's sit right now...
Cha ching?...

Perfect for this? Damn...




           Now THAT would make a FANTASTIC combination! :o 8) ;)
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2009, 08:43:49 AM »
 :). yes
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2009, 09:50:38 AM »
Yep Bill that was me!!  ;D I just lurk around here mostly..

So far it's looking like the bill will be around $3000.oo with me doing the disassembly and reassembly. BUT that's a far cry from the $12,500.oo that they want for a race spec 450 engine at stage 3..

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2009, 10:48:51 AM »
Ya, the pricing is crazy. Could have a decent built up V-8 for that.
Those retro builds (Hansen & M3) along with Harley motors/builds are waay overpriced.
Me, I could afford a stock motor in that Hansen frame... maybe.  Probably not.  :-[
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Re: I Like My Jawas, But Hondas Are Still High On My List And Look At This One!
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2009, 01:13:26 PM »
Quote from: Bird76Mojo on January 28, 2009, 09:50:38 AM
Yep Bill that was me!!  ;D I just lurk around here mostly..

So far it's looking like the bill will be around $3000.oo with me doing the disassembly and reassembly. BUT that's a far cry from the $12,500.oo that they want for a race spec 450 engine at stage 3..

GB  ;D
Ahh peanuts dear boy - I'm into my race motor to over $18000! Don't for goodness sake tell the wife...  ;D
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2009, 04:08:15 PM »


      About the best I could do, is to use the photo as background on my PC! ::) And, then watch as others build those Fantastic Engines! ;) 

                        Later on, Bill ;)
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2009, 04:30:27 PM »
Quote from: Bird76Mojo on January 28, 2009, 09:50:38 AM
Yep Bill that was me!!  ;D I just lurk around here mostly..

So far it's looking like the bill will be around $3000.oo with me doing the disassembly and reassembly. BUT that's a far cry from the $12,500.oo that they want for a race spec 450 engine at stage 3..

GB  ;D

        Oh Yeah, I was just sharing that photo ot that Awesome engine. It always does me good to see one of those "Spruced Up", you could say. 8) ;)

                               I'll be looking forward to seeing yours GB. ;)
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2009, 12:58:34 PM »
I'll be out of town until Monday afternoon. Bill, could you PM me some links and info, or as much as you can scrounge up??

I'm especially interested in the dry clutch conversion.

Sick looking engines!!  8)
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Re: I Like My Jawas, But Hondas Are Still High On My List And Look At This One!
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2009, 04:59:23 AM »
Quote from: HavocTurbo on January 30, 2009, 12:58:34 PM

I'm especially interested in the dry clutch conversion.


check this site http://www.novaracing.co.uk/ but speak to Simon (lordmoonpie) first he might have some comments to help you get over it  :(

see his experience here http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=44760.0
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2009, 12:19:24 PM »
Quote from: malcolmgb on January 31, 2009, 04:59:23 AM
Quote from: HavocTurbo on January 30, 2009, 12:58:34 PM

I'm especially interested in the dry clutch conversion.


check this site http://www.novaracing.co.uk/ but speak to Simon (lordmoonpie) first he might have some comments to help you get over it  :(

see his experience here http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=44760.0
Oh yes I can give you some comments about the Nova dry clutch but almost all of them are unprintable! If you like spending lots of money on parts only to have to re-engineer them yourself then go for it, if you want a bolt on easy solution with no problems, don't even think of going down this route...hey but if you do - give me a shout when you hit the problems and I will be able to tell you the solutions  ;D

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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2009, 01:20:44 PM »
I took a look at their website and while I don't own a 450.... I was thinking of making a dry clutch conversion for the 750.

Pretty hard to do I'm sure. But I would never sell to someone else if I didn't have the kinks worked out.

Seems like a bunch of garbage to me about the Nova people. What jerks!!

I eventually want to drag a motor I'm working on and my previous drag had a dry clutch. Worked a lot better for me as I like to dump hard on clutches.

Just dreaming it seems.  :-\
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2009, 02:50:33 PM »
Quote from: HavocTurbo on February 02, 2009, 01:20:44 PM
I took a look at their website and while I don't own a 450.... I was thinking of making a dry clutch conversion for the 750.

Pretty hard to do I'm sure. But I would never sell to someone else if I didn't have the kinks worked out.

Seems like a bunch of garbage to me about the Nova people. What jerks!!

I eventually want to drag a motor I'm working on and my previous drag had a dry clutch. Worked a lot better for me as I like to dump hard on clutches.

Just dreaming it seems.  :-\

          I clearly understand about that "dreaming" part. ;) I do quite a bit of that myself! And here's just ONE example!

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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2009, 03:57:38 PM »
Well I have never dragged a 750 before and all the other wet clutch bikes I have ridden seem to blow clutches quite often.... Maybe it's just me.

I've done a lot of machining for other projects (mostly other people) and have considered using an RC magneto drive or making one. Plus adding a dry clutch to my already modified on paper of course) 750 engine.

Just as a side there might be a market for it, but I highly doubt it. Most people hate them.
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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2009, 04:36:53 AM »
I'd buy one! I l-u-r-v-e- the rattle and screech of a nice dry clutch and it's about the only thing my 750 hasn't got!  ;D
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