Author Topic: Dealing with rusty pipes (Read 6857 times)

Joolz · « **Reply #50 on:** February 08, 2009, 11:31:21 AM »

wrapped looks nicer

d3buttz · « **Reply #51 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:07:27 PM »

i had rust issiues on my pipes and found that the wrap kept the pipe rust from happening. imo it keeps the heat in and burning off moisture faster on the short rides. it looks kick ass too .

bradweingartner · « **Reply #52 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:11:12 PM »

Quote from: d3buttz on February 08, 2009, 12:07:27 PM

i had rust issiues on my pipes and found that the wrap kept the pipe rust from happening. imo it keeps the heat in and burning off moisture faster on the short rides.

That's a good point. Contrary to everything I've seen or heard for any applications that are going to see wet-weather duty.

One thing to consider, even if you wrap it you're still going to want to paint it first to keep corrosion down. Some guys even paint the wrap afterwards to prevent moisture absorption when it sees water.

If you do wrap it, do yourself a favor and wet the wrap, will turn out MUCH better.

Hondaboy · « **Reply #53 on:** February 08, 2009, 03:53:04 PM »

Where can you get this wrap and what is it called?

BARDAR · « **Reply #54 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:26:40 PM »

Header wrap. I got some from Jegs.com

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #55 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:40:15 PM »

Ceramic powder coat IMO is the best option but not the cheapest

blounstation · « **Reply #56 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:48:50 PM »

Thanks fellas. I just tried to get some of the old paint off and it's on good but jankie looking. I'll probably go with the wrap and paint over the wrap since I do live in Oregon and my bike usually see wet weather riding. I thought about ceramic coat but this pipe has dents and scratches so it wouldn't be worth it.

NickC · « **Reply #57 on:** February 08, 2009, 06:03:11 PM »

Anyone know if there is any difference between regular ceramic header paint and the stuff for header wrap?

78CB750CAFE · « **Reply #58 on:** February 08, 2009, 06:23:27 PM »

Paint it, then wrap it. VHT and DEI make good aerosol "ceramic" header paint, lay on a few coats after you scotchbrite the pipes (especially the rust spots ) and remount them, and run them a while to cure the paint. Then clean them and wrap them with damp header wrap, go slow and it will turn out good. Let them dry a day, then shoot them with some of the wrap sealing paint that DEI and VHT make. I did 2 or 3 coats initially and have shot on another coat or touched up spots whenever the pipes were off the bike to get it on my lift and they look great.

header wrap paint and ceramic header paint are way different, but I cant give you specifics. I found both the wrap and wrap at my local Advance Auto Parts and both were DEI brand, though I here that VHT makes it for them.

j-conn · « **Reply #59 on:** February 09, 2009, 06:48:37 AM »

so my header is exceptionally rusted. I dont know of any holes but the whole thing seems like its gonna crumble. i would have to take a closer look... it may just be a pretty thin layer.
questions is. when is it past salvagable?
there is also rust on the inside of the pipes. best way to get that out would be ______?
and finally would a header for 75$ be a good deal. some superficial rust on the outside but rusted on the inside...
thanks,
john

mystic_1 · « **Reply #60 on:** February 09, 2009, 09:45:51 AM »

Quote from: j-conn on February 09, 2009, 06:48:37 AM

there is also rust on the inside of the pipes. best way to get that out would be ______?

Take an old control cable. Cut one end off and fray out the strands a bit. Chuck the other end into a drill. Insert into pipe, pull trigger, work back and forth.

Quote from: j-conn on February 09, 2009, 06:48:37 AM

and finally would a header for 75$ be a good deal. some superficial rust on the outside but rusted on the inside...

I don't know that I'd bay that much for a header that was rusty inside AND out, but it depends on overall condition and which pipe it is , exactly. Got pics?

mystic_1

j-conn · « **Reply #61 on:** February 09, 2009, 10:24:39 AM »

i will def do the control cable.
I should have some pics of exsisting and one im looking at posted in next couple of day.

OakBehringer · « **Reply #62 on:** February 09, 2009, 01:11:52 PM »

Quote from: blounstation on February 08, 2009, 04:48:50 PM

Thanks fellas. I just tried to get some of the old paint off and it's on good but jankie looking. I'll probably go with the wrap and paint over the wrap since I do live in Oregon and my bike usually see wet weather riding. I thought about ceramic coat but this pipe has dents and scratches so it wouldn't be worth it.

Paint over the wrap? That sounds like a terrible idea.

Wrap looks bad-ass. Wrap 'em.

bradweingartner · « **Reply #63 on:** February 12, 2009, 04:52:30 PM »

Quote from: OakBehringer on February 09, 2009, 01:11:52 PM

Quote from: blounstation on February 08, 2009, 04:48:50 PM

Thanks fellas. I just tried to get some of the old paint off and it's on good but jankie looking. I'll probably go with the wrap and paint over the wrap since I do live in Oregon and my bike usually see wet weather riding. I thought about ceramic coat but this pipe has dents and scratches so it wouldn't be worth it.

Paint over the wrap? That sounds like a terrible idea.

Wrap looks bad-ass. Wrap 'em.

Trust me. Paint the wrap. Seals it up nicely and helps prevents oil absorption from a leaky motor. I've seen some special paints for this, but regular exhaust paint seems to work fine.

78CB750CAFE · « **Reply #64 on:** February 12, 2009, 05:37:21 PM »

do yerself a favor and get the paint made to do the job. Wherever you get your tape, they will prob have the paint for it. It comes in clear, black and some colors and will make the tape last a lot longer and look a lot better.

friedfish80 · « **Reply #65 on:** February 13, 2009, 06:44:54 AM »

Sounds like we got this topic in the bag. But I'm gona throw the wrench in it. I gota buddy that's comes from a drag raceing and jeep background. He has never steered me wrong in anything. I was gona wrap my 4 to 1 pipe also. I made mention of it to him and he's aganst the idea. Something to do with heat exchange being poor causeing pipes to crack. Now he's running a 10 sec lightning with a blown small block. I would guess that his headers are a bit hotter then ours. Has anyone that has wraped headers had a issue with them cracking? I know for a fact that my pipe only gets to be about 180.

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #66 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:39:41 AM »

Ceramic coating is the best way, but as someone else said not the cheapest.
I would spray the pipes with some high temp paint, and then wrap them.

j-conn · « **Reply #67 on:** February 13, 2009, 11:07:22 AM »

Quote

I gota buddy that's comes from a

racing background who has said the same thing.
just how common is cracking with these bikes?

Caaveman82 · « **Reply #68 on:** February 13, 2009, 11:30:01 AM »

Dude get the 1000 degree bbq paint at your local hardware store, it's a flat primer looking black. Paint it. Wrap it wet as was suggested earlier, then if you want a shiney-ish finish get some high temp gloss stuff or you can finish off the bbq paint.

That bbq paint has a real flat look to it. I had used it on the pipes that were on my bike when I got it. Turned out pretty dern nice.

j-conn · « **Reply #69 on:** February 13, 2009, 12:18:13 PM »

does header need to be completly rust free?

friedfish80 · « **Reply #70 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:27:15 PM »

I dout it. I guess to clarify, the stress that's induced to the headers on my buddy truck. Is it more severe then what's put to our header pipes? Being that I'm not running 114 octane, a blower, and is about 1/4 the size of his motor. If I wrap do I need to worry about cracking pipes like he does if he were to wrap?

Slayer · « **Reply #71 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:50:05 PM »

<--- Obvious newb. I always thought the wrap was for looks, is this more of a fashion or a function? I think they both look cool.

DirtyUnderWhere · « **Reply #72 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:56:37 PM »

just alittle tidbit to go along with the paint on the wrap thing... I used Krylon bbq paint on mine and it's the nuts. that's it in my avatar

bradweingartner · « **Reply #73 on:** February 23, 2009, 10:42:36 PM »

Quote from: Slayer on February 13, 2009, 01:50:05 PM

<--- Obvious newb. I always thought the wrap was for looks, is this more of a fashion or a function? I think they both look cool.

Wrapping has some performance benefits in certain circumstances, also functional in acting as a heat shield to help prevent melted parts (of both bike and body).

AND looks cool!

WIN, WIN, WIN

Except your pipes might rust to holes.

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Author Topic: Dealing with rusty pipes (Read 6857 times)

Joolz

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