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Dilemma.
« on: March 01, 2009, 12:57:15 PM »
In the next two years, maybe sooner, I want to buy a new bike.

I am stuck. I cannot make my decision. I love Honda but I don't like their new bikes, period.

Basically I am torn between two bikes. I have test drove them both, and love them both equally.

The options are:

The Triumph Street Triple

[img width= height=]http://cdn-7.psndealer.com/e2/dealersite/images/NewVehicles/2009_8_StreetTriple_green.jpg[/img]

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The Ducati Sport GT1000

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Anyone have any personal experiences they could share about either or both of these?

Added note: I plan on driving cross country on which ever one I do get, so keep that in mind. I see that either one of them would be a bit of a challenge, but I don't care.

I am just really having trouble deciding.
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2009, 01:06:10 PM »
I think in another you may have more than 2 choices, the way things are going..

I am curious how the new Sporty 1200 and Buell will do..
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2009, 01:11:37 PM »
Quote from: 754 on March 01, 2009, 01:06:10 PM
I think in another you may have more than 2 choices, the way things are going..

I am curious how the new Sporty 1200 and Buell will do..

I like what the new prospects are, but I have already narrowed it down to these two. I love them both, I just can't make the call.
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2009, 01:20:44 PM »
I respect the cool choices..
just sayin, things happen..

 ..you go on a demo ride one day, discover you really like another

 ..buddy gets a bike, lets you ride it, you end up liking it.

.. You go on the demo ride of one of your choices.. find out you dont like it..

.. new model comes out that you like even more..

 stuff like that.
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2009, 01:26:56 PM »
I hear what you are saying man, totally.

I am pretty focused however.

I think the only thing that could detur me would be if Honda actually released those CB redo's in the States.
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2009, 03:05:32 PM »
go for the triumph, theyre dead nuts reliable. and theres a saying i;ve seen/heard, it goes something like this, "Ducati, making mechanics out of riders for 50 years"  the modern triumphs are supposedly one of the most trouble free new motorcycles out there now.
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2009, 03:41:40 PM »
Quote from: fuzzybutt on March 01, 2009, 03:05:32 PM
go for the triumph, theyre dead nuts reliable. and theres a saying i;ve seen/heard, it goes something like this, "Ducati, making mechanics out of riders for 50 years"  the modern triumphs are supposedly one of the most trouble free new motorcycles out there now.

I've heard the same, but my question to that is that if Ducati makes crap bikes, why does everyone think they are good?

No challenging you, but I don't understand where it's coming from.

Also I've wanted a Triumph for a long time. That Ducati just looks mean though.
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2009, 03:55:49 PM »
I don't think Ducati make "crap" bikes its just they need a lot of maintenance and are expensive to look after long term, hence the saying "Ducati, making mechanics out of riders for 50 years".

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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2009, 06:28:20 PM »
never said that they made crap bikes, just that their reliability might not be as good as others
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2009, 07:59:36 PM »
Down the road when you need parts or service for that Ducati. You will know you made the wrong choice.
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2009, 08:17:29 PM »
I am sorry I was not trying to put words in your mouth.

Just trying to get a grip on it.
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2009, 08:23:47 PM »
Well I'll stick up for the dego bike....

Cuz I'm a dego also.

While Ducati's are expensive to buy, maintain, and repair: There is seriously no other experience in riding.

I was skeptical. Till I rode one. Never the same after that. Granted it was a 96 900SS, but still.....

I had the pleasure of testing a Sport Classic. Good god.

So in summation....

It comes down to experience and $$$ (ducati) or ease of ownership (triumph).

P.S.- If you take care of a Duc, they usually last a LONG time.
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2009, 11:46:02 AM »
Hmmm. Interesting.
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2009, 12:03:11 PM »
Trash your decision. Get a Buell.

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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2009, 01:14:15 PM »
I am 48 , will be 49 in August. I have already picked out a Ducati for my 50th birthday. I have a very good local dealer, which is important. He has been a Duacti delaer for 30 years - knows his stuff.  The Duke is the nuts.. and far more dependable than they use to be.

I have a Triumph dealer nearby too, actually a little closer to me than the Ducati dealer. I would not buy from him based on his people skills and reputation...

Both are great bikes. The bargain seems to be with a 2 year old Ducati... Better prices, great value. 

What's your dealer relationship like? 


If you want rugged dependability, stay with your old HONDA CB ... Better yet, have an old Honda CB and a newer Ducati.

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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2009, 03:11:57 PM »
K12R.
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2009, 03:28:41 PM »
i've never ridden either one but i have drooled over forum member Aptech's triumph (very sweet ride, and really hard to keep up with)  according to him , it is the best bang for the buck in that class. he also says it's surprisingly comfy on long rides


personally i really want the new retro Bonneville
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2009, 05:05:06 PM »
Quote from: spikeybike on March 02, 2009, 03:28:41 PM
i've never ridden either one but i have drooled over forum member Aptech's triumph (very sweet ride, and really hard to keep up with)  according to him , it is the best bang for the buck in that class. he also says it's surprisingly comfy on long rides


personally i really want the new retro Bonneville

Spikey I was looking at the new Bonneville because I think they are really sweet looking and I kind of really like Tripumph.

However, even at what 865cc? The thing would get killed by a Street Triple with 675cc.

I know it's not about having the fastest bike ever, but I like having the option available to me.

The only other bike I would probably throw in my line up is a Yamaha Vmax just because I think they look pretty killer.
Quote from: Otto on March 02, 2009, 01:14:15 PM
I am 48 , will be 49 in August. I have already picked out a Ducati for my 50th birthday. I have a very good local dealer, which is important. He has been a Duacti delaer for 30 years - knows his stuff.  The Duke is the nuts.. and far more dependable than they use to be.

I have a Triumph dealer nearby too, actually a little closer to me than the Ducati dealer. I would not buy from him based on his people skills and reputation...

Both are great bikes. The bargain seems to be with a 2 year old Ducati... Better prices, great value. 

What's your dealer relationship like? 


If you want rugged dependability, stay with your old HONDA CB ... Better yet, have an old Honda CB and a newer Ducati.

bc

Unfortunatly there is only one place in the immediate area to get Ducati or Triumph and it's moto primo in lakeville. Also unfortunatlly they are a bunch of @$$hats. The nearest place to get a Ducati or Triumph is very far out of state, not that I wouldn't think about it, would be a cool first drive on the new bike, but right now it's not in my agenda to go that far to find out.

Also, as fond as I am of my Honda, and as good of shape as it is in, I get a little squeamish about taking it out of the state. I would love to, but I am just weary about taking it cross country, I totally would in about a thousand dollars from now, but at the current state, nope. Thing is older than I am.
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2009, 05:56:53 PM »
Hmm,

1000 beans into  a SOHC4  that you will be comfortable going anywhere or 10,000 beans for a new Duc ..and no local dealer...

How much is your Honda worth... how much will it depreciate ... from what I have seen i'll appreciate.

All good points..

maybe I'll just keep my 71-750K1 ... and my 76 550K and skip the Duc on my half century mark.

Nah- I'm getting a GT1000!

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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2009, 06:24:47 PM »
I know it's a little goofey to spend 10k on a new bike when 1k will make me comfortable to go anywhere on my honda, but I really like both those bikes, plus I remember the day when my dad brought home his brand new Yamaha. It was like Christmas.

Plus I am doing the Honda from the ground up, myself. Except the tank...

Everything else I am doing. I have the money, sort of, but I don't have the time.
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2009, 07:04:59 PM »
I am just messing round -stir crazy ith all the snow.... I love the Duc and will have one, some day.

I'll keep the HONDA for when the Duc goes in the shop... ;)

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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2009, 07:34:58 AM »
Otto you referred to a Duke, earlier..
 Around here that would be a KTM.....
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Re: Dilemma.
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2009, 07:46:38 AM »
Funnily enough a Street Triple is next on my shopping list 8) 8)
I've ridden a few of them now, belonging to both friends and dealers, and loved every minute of every ride ;D
I've also hung on to (just) the odd Speed Triple too :o

Not ridden that particular Ducati, but I've tried enough other models to know they're not for me :-\

Like a certain other V-Twin they are far to reliant on their owners' blind dedication to the 'brand', to many faults that would be considered unforgiveable on a Japanese bike are over-looked, or passed off as idiosyncratic ::)

IMO Anyone considering a Ducati would be far better off looking at the KTM or Aprillia equivalents 8) 8)
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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2009, 07:06:01 PM »
After reading numerous consumer reports, spying on other message boards, and asking around, I have made my decision......

the winner will be...

The Street Triple.

Thank you everyone for your input!
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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2009, 08:55:26 PM »
Quote from: CrisPDuk on March 03, 2009, 07:46:38 AM
Funnily enough a Street Triple is next on my shopping list 8) 8)
I've ridden a few of them now, belonging to both friends and dealers, and loved every minute of every ride ;D
I've also hung on to (just) the odd Speed Triple too :o

Not ridden that particular Ducati, but I've tried enough other models to know they're not for me :-\

Like a certain other V-Twin they are far to reliant on their owners' blind dedication to the 'brand', to many faults that would be considered unforgiveable on a Japanese bike are over-looked, or passed off as idiosyncratic ::)

IMO Anyone considering a Ducati would be far better off looking at the KTM or Aprillia equivalents 8) 8)


Why do you think that?

Personally I think Ducati is just about the closest thing you can buy to a "real" track bike. Granted the KTM is just as good. But blind dedication?

What faults?

I'm interested is all.
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