Author Topic: My project thus far. "Elsa" (Read 84494 times)

Frankenkit · « **Reply #150 on:** March 11, 2009, 08:32:33 AM »

Boys. Geez.
Hey Ink, my two cents (which is highly overrating it...) Because 750 parts (esp. late 750 parts) are EXTREMELY prevalent in salvage yards, I strongly suggest building it up using stock parts etc (like I said at 2am and am trying to make 'sensible' cuz I was half asleep) so while you're in trouble-shooting mode, you have reliable 'known' factors that can be addressed in an 'emergency' from the owner's manual or the honda svc. manual. Your wrenching history lends you the ability to read those damn books and make sense of them- a help a lot of newbies don't have starting out.

From a factory or near-factory setup with reliability, you can then step back and say "what do I want to change? What can I change without sacrificing durability, looks, or function?"

Know what I mean? You're going to have your hands full trying to learn to ride a bike with known and/or unknown mechanical issues as it is. Simplify. These bikes are older than we are- they can wait for us to catch up in skill before we put on performance upgrades.

Frankenkit · « **Reply #151 on:** March 11, 2009, 08:51:25 AM »

Quote from: Inkscars on March 11, 2009, 08:19:18 AM

ANYWHO
I'm going to a few fabric stores and hobby stores and motorcycle shops and hardware stores today to try and collect my wire, filters, snaps, resin, and all that jazz today. I'm not sure what I'm going to use for the foam on the pan yet, but i'm sure i'll find something.

I'm stalking your thread, sorry. check out floral arrangement foam for your mockup of the tailbump. You're glassing it anyway, so it doesn't have to be super durable or anything, in fact the crumbliness of it might even help you form it *juuuust* right.
Post pics, I'm really eager to see how it turns out.

Inkscars · « **Reply #152 on:** March 11, 2009, 07:25:27 PM »

I already have a mock bump carved out. I bought some of that pink commercial grade stuff they use to deaden noise in walls and such. Ended up screwing 4 chunks together with really big screws and just carved it up with a drywall knife.

I bought some zebra print upholstery today. 5 stores later. I really had to dig for the thickness and durability.
I also decided after standing in the fastener aisle for almost an hour that I should use the heavy duy snap that you can buy to put covers on boats and such. I found some that look like .45 cal shells so they're pretty cool. SOOOOOOOO. Now I have to wait for the weather to break and get to the glassing.

I went to adjust my points and one of the screws (left side) is rounded out. I guess i'll have to find something to get it out with as an impact driver will prolly break the assembly.

Wish me luck.

Frankenkit · « **Reply #153 on:** March 11, 2009, 08:22:37 PM »

can you fit a needle-nose vice-grips around it?

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #154 on:** March 11, 2009, 10:42:44 PM »

Quote from: Kit on March 11, 2009, 08:22:37 PM

can you fit a needle-nose vice-grips around it?

If that doesn't work, get a dremel and grind a slot.... then an impact driver will take it's business.

754 · « **Reply #155 on:** March 11, 2009, 10:51:06 PM »

Left Hand 1/8 " drilll bit....best 3 bux you'll ever spend..

Hush · « **Reply #156 on:** March 12, 2009, 03:39:43 AM »

I use a very very small hacksaw for jobs like this, they come with an adjustable handle and the blade is about as thin as a screw driver.
Cut a slot and then use a bladed screw driver to take it out.

Inkscars · « **Reply #157 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:13:55 AM »

Quote from: 754 on March 11, 2009, 10:51:06 PM

Left Hand 1/8 " drilll bit....best 3 bux you'll ever spend..

I'm gonna go and look for one of these. I am going to try the needle nose vice grips, but, the screw is very soft. I'm going to replace a few screws, nuts and bolts, the only place with loads of replacements is an ace hardware. I hope that they're decent quality.....Also I'm going to have to find some replacement tappet covers, A bunch of mine are effed up. Any reason the metal on this bike is so soft? I'm not understanding it. I've worked on alot of older vehicles and never encountered this issue.

754 · « **Reply #158 on:** March 12, 2009, 07:27:15 AM »

2 reasons,
The tappet covers are often overtorqued..

Some cant be bothered to use a 6 point socket on them..

Duke McDukiedook · « **Reply #159 on:** March 12, 2009, 07:49:01 AM »

Yep, o-rings get leaky and instead of new ones, PO's often just overtighten to the point of yielding.

754 · « **Reply #160 on:** March 12, 2009, 07:58:34 AM »

Another trick for stuck screws you can reach from the side.

Get a tiny chisel and make sure it sharp, come in from side of screw and make a cut into edge with chisel. Now catch that at an angle with tip of punch facing the direction to loosen. Tap firmly using small hammer (tiny ball pein or tacking Hammer is great).

You will see if it starts to move and have to change punch position to follow it. Usually as soon as it turns 1/8 turn you might even be able to use a screwdriver in it & even reuse it..

Spikeybike · « **Reply #161 on:** March 12, 2009, 10:08:02 PM »

i've got some extra tappet covers, how many do ya need

BeSeeingYou · « **Reply #162 on:** March 12, 2009, 10:21:23 PM »

Quote from: Inkscars on March 12, 2009, 06:13:55 AM

Quote from: 754 on March 11, 2009, 10:51:06 PM
Left Hand 1/8 " drilll bit....best 3 bux you'll ever spend..

I'm gonna go and look for one of these. I am going to try the needle nose vice grips, but, the screw is very soft. I'm going to replace a few screws, nuts and bolts, the only place with loads of replacements is an ace hardware. I hope that they're decent quality.....Also I'm going to have to find some replacement tappet covers, A bunch of mine are effed up. Any reason the metal on this bike is so soft? I'm not understanding it. I've worked on alot of older vehicles and never encountered this issue.

Go for the stainless steel, will be a bit harder. A decent hardware store should have them in metric. There is one good store near me that also carries a selection in chrome both metric and standard.

Inkscars · « **Reply #163 on:** March 13, 2009, 05:14:51 AM »

Quote from: spikeybike on March 12, 2009, 10:08:02 PM

i've got some extra tappet covers, how many do ya need

I can see 4 that are damaged. How many extras do you have?

Inkscars · « **Reply #164 on:** March 13, 2009, 05:15:50 AM »

Stainless, got it. I'm going to see about a diff head than phillips as well.

754 · « **Reply #165 on:** March 13, 2009, 08:32:59 AM »

I would leave them phillips, and just develop a feel for how tight they should be...and use a titch of blue loctite..

The main problem is PO's that worry about stuff falling off (hey its a 4) that overtighten..
That, and this is quite important.. proper fitting screwdriver..
They are JIS . and some screwdrivers dont fit properly. the toolkit one might.

2 things with stainless allens,
easy to overtighten (you dont want to look for a 4mm heli=coil kit on Sat nite

)

sometimes has seizing problems

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Once a point plate gets a bit warped from overtightening, they become harder to adjust and to hold down, , so be a bit carefull.

Inkscars · « **Reply #166 on:** March 13, 2009, 08:46:17 AM »

Alright. So maybe I'll just have to weigh my options at the hardware store. lol

goon 1492 · « **Reply #167 on:** March 13, 2009, 09:26:10 AM »

Hey Ink, if you have trouble with the pods and want to go back in the stock direction I have made a plate that acts as the bottom cover of the stock air bock. and it will match up to a stock filter or like I did and get the stock style K&N filter like this. let me know if you want one because I am going to make one for mine that has sides to it that will be similar to the stock air box but with this it looks like a hot rod and you can inspect the filter without taking the box apart.

Inkscars · « **Reply #168 on:** March 13, 2009, 09:30:30 AM »

How many millions ya gonna get me for? I'll rock that thing!

goon 1492 · « **Reply #169 on:** March 13, 2009, 09:45:14 AM »

Don't worry about it, it's still in it's evolutionary stages so you can be part of my clinical trial....Makes me feel like a doctor.

BeSeeingYou · « **Reply #170 on:** March 13, 2009, 10:35:58 AM »

Quote from: 754 on March 13, 2009, 08:32:59 AM

I would leave them phillips, and just develop a feel for how tight they should be...and use a titch of blue loctite..

The main problem is PO's that worry about stuff falling off (hey its a 4) that overtighten..
That, and this is quite important.. proper fitting screwdriver..
They are JIS . and some screwdrivers dont fit properly. the toolkit one might.

2 things with stainless allens,
easy to overtighten (you dont want to look for a 4mm heli=coil kit on Sat nite )

sometimes has seizing problems

.....................................................................................

Once a point plate gets a bit warped from overtightening, they become harder to adjust and to hold down, , so be a bit carefull.

The seizing between stainless and aluminum is true but more so in exposed applications especially near or in saltwater. Big problem for boats so we use anti seize compounds, silicon, plastic insulating washers, etc on boating applications. Unless you are on the coast or using in an exposed area it should not be a problem.

Inkscars · « **Reply #171 on:** March 13, 2009, 10:45:25 AM »

Quote from: goon 1492 on March 13, 2009, 09:45:14 AM

Don't worry about it, it's still in it's evolutionary stages so you can be part of my clinical trial....Makes me feel like a doctor.

Effin sweet. I'm all excited now! But that means you'll have to meet me. I'm sorry.

Duke McDukiedook · « **Reply #172 on:** March 13, 2009, 11:14:05 AM »

Only place I was able to find a set of JIS screwdrivers was here

http://www.stanleysupplyservices.com/search.aspx?q=JIS+screwdrivers

The Honda manual says that my K3 was standard philips screw though- which is right?

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #173 on:** March 13, 2009, 11:19:24 AM »

Depending on where and how big.... a #2 or #3 standard phillips should take care of just about everything.

Might need an impact driver on some, but standards should work ok.

NitroHunter · « **Reply #174 on:** March 13, 2009, 11:33:07 AM »

IMO, I'd use an impact driver on EVERY phillips head removal.
It's too late once the 'X' is buggered...

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