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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #450 on: May 15, 2009, 06:10:51 AM »
So, last night whilst waiting for tools, I decided to try something
out with my less than attractive sidecover badges.


Hmm. I dunno. I kinda like it.
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #451 on: May 15, 2009, 06:26:51 AM »
I like those badges.  How did you do them?
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #452 on: May 15, 2009, 06:31:28 AM »
One turned out better than the other, the one I prepped more looks worse.  :D
The other one I pulled loose paint off, sanded the shiny bits, and then primed and painted.
They weren't supposed to be gloss, the can said flat, but I like the contrast between the primer and the badge.  ;D
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #453 on: May 15, 2009, 06:46:54 AM »
man, your bike's coming together!!! I'm so excited!  (proud dad style) ;D
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #454 on: May 15, 2009, 07:35:04 AM »
I'm forever immortalized on your pic of your eggmac. :D

glad your #$%*'s finally coming all together! :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

It's gonna feel so good to give her a wrist of throttle and hear her howl at 7.5k down the road...
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #455 on: May 15, 2009, 07:39:38 AM »
I know. I'm getting so close I can taste the bugs already!
I mean, I'll totally be wearing a helmet.  ;D
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #456 on: May 15, 2009, 09:02:52 AM »
Quote from: Inkscars on May 15, 2009, 07:39:38 AM
I know. I'm getting so close I can taste the bugs already!


make sure you spit out the big bugs...some have a weird after taste...... >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #457 on: May 15, 2009, 11:04:33 AM »
Quote from: Inkscars on May 15, 2009, 05:59:52 AM
Tonight I'll be adjusting my lifters, and trying to sync again.
Orignally, when synching was attempted, #1 and 4 go to 20 on the gauges and 2 and 3 go to 14.
Almost dead on on both of them. I tried letting out and screwing in air screws to no avail.
#4 does nothing, #1 makes them all go down. :D
At first warmed up, it would give up accel around 4000 rpms. After some tinkering, she's hitting 7500 now and it sounds pretty good.
The exhaust was smoking after I turned off the bike.
Uuuummmm.
Carb sync is about adjusting the slide height of each carb to provide equal vacuum across the bank.  The "Air Screws" (actually the PD carbs have "Idle Mixture Screws", are not for carb synchronization.  These  are for an unrelated adjustment.

Further, you aren't looking for peak values, you are looking for equal values.  The vacuum reading will change with engine speed.  That would be variable number one. Which you frequently adjust while doing carb sync with the main idle speed knob.  Then the second variable is a single carb's slide height relative to the others.  Improving or reducing the efficiency of a single cylinder (by changing the slide height) changes the idle speed as well.  (Think of it as a bonus effect.)

It is normal for a badly out of sync carb (s) to cause all the readings to go down (or up) when it is changed, as this usually effects idle speed, as well.

Do adjust the lifters first.  (Or, you may be forced to "practice" carb sync again after adjusting valve lifters.  Valves effect engine breathing or a per cylinder basis.  Carb sync is also an adjustment on a per cylinder basis.

Worry about smoking pipes after the engine idles properly, the head pipes heat evenly, and you've put 50-100 miles on the bike.

Hope this helps.

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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #458 on: May 15, 2009, 11:11:28 AM »
Spot On Lloyd.

Additionall the problem you described is generally caused by one carb being too high and "lifting" the whole set when you adjust it.

As Llyod said....Adjust the high one down...turn up the Idle...Adjust it down some more...then adjust the rest.

I've sworn for years to do a Carb video...A complete how to on the K carbs from start to finish...but I never seem to find the time...
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #459 on: May 15, 2009, 11:28:17 AM »
I dont have time to read all of that right now, but i will relieve some of the dumbassness off myself and say, yes,  :D i realize that sync has to do with the slides, I wanted to know how bad they were off. which seems to tell me which ones need to adjust which way, or so I hope. I will come back and read TT's message in a bit, but for now, work and jimmy johns sammich.  ;D
p.s. I know you're right tt, you're always right, and, it always helps, because I'm learning!

Oh, also, I forgot ask TT, I'm guessing it would be easier to pull the carbs back off again to do this, but I've seen people on here do it on the bike? I think I'm just gonna pull em off cause they're easier to see.
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #460 on: May 15, 2009, 11:58:53 AM »
To vacuum sync carbs, the engine must be running.  I haven't been able to make an engine run with its carbs sitting on the bench.

P.S. I'm NOT always right! (<----And this statement proves it!)

I *have* worked hard to be right more often than wrong. I figure if I live long enough, I'll eventually balance all those wrong things that occurred in my younger years.
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #461 on: May 15, 2009, 12:13:00 PM »
You're wrong, in the statement that You'll ever be wrong.  ;D
I meant adjusting the slides alone. making sure they travel up and down at the same rate.


EDIT: so that's why you're so damned helpful.  ;) paying it....backward??? lol
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #462 on: May 15, 2009, 12:47:30 PM »
Quote from: TwoTired on May 15, 2009, 11:58:53 AM
To vacuum sync carbs, the engine must be running. 

really???    :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #463 on: May 15, 2009, 12:54:20 PM »
I think the contrast with the glossy badges and the flat color of the side panel looks really good. Especially with those colors.
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #464 on: May 15, 2009, 12:59:26 PM »
Eeeek, I know! I can't leave it primer forever though, she'll get scurvvy!!!
Or not?
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #465 on: May 15, 2009, 01:03:28 PM »
just clear coat the primer then..... ;)
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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #466 on: May 15, 2009, 01:05:18 PM »
Inks...The slides move together...thier connected and pretty much have to.

What your doing when you sync is adjust each slide height a wee bit to compensate for differing volumetric effeciency.

Each cylinder pumps air just a little different than any other cylinder.

Syncing them assures your drawing the same on each. Thats why its smoother and makes better power afterwards.

Now if your refering to Benchg syncing....keep in mind thats just to establish a starting point.

I don't see any reason to pull them back off if the bike will run...

Just go ahead and Sync them.

Course to do that you'll have to actually read whats posted.. ;) :D

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Re: My project thus far. "Elsa"
« Reply #467 on: May 15, 2009, 01:06:05 PM »
Paint don't make it run

Nor does it increase ridability  ;)
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« Reply #468 on: May 15, 2009, 01:10:11 PM »
It doesn't? hahahaa
Damn. I'll read it! I promise! I'm almost caught up.
The reason I haven't read it completely yet is because I have to warm up my brain to grasp onto what TT says. It's kinda like making a child pay attention when there's toys right in front of them.
I'll need all of my attention  ;)
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« Reply #469 on: May 15, 2009, 01:11:37 PM »
come on
primer sealer a cheep & eazy fix or touch up
no worriez about color matching & waxing & buffing
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« Reply #470 on: May 15, 2009, 01:25:27 PM »
Ack!!  A Zombie!!!!



**kablam**


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« Reply #471 on: May 15, 2009, 01:27:19 PM »
 :D :D :D
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« Reply #472 on: May 15, 2009, 01:27:48 PM »
Now that THAT's handled,


Hey Ink...

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Look at all this tasty data!

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« Reply #473 on: May 16, 2009, 11:10:29 AM »
gotta be a head shot
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« Reply #474 on: May 16, 2009, 11:36:06 AM »
 :D
That's true. Non-head shots are ineffective. You lose.
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