Author Topic: Aftermarket Throttle w/stock cables (Read 2704 times)

cafeconleche · « **on:** February 15, 2009, 03:58:33 PM »

I have an aftermarket dual pull throttle and i'm trying to use my set of oem throttle cables. my questions are . . .

Where do the push /pull cables go in the throttle housing (meaning which side does each occupy)?

and

How do I attach these cables to the throttle housing ( can I remove those metal angled pieces on the ends and insert the throttle casing into those holes)?

Thanks

Jake

kerryb · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2009, 05:06:56 PM »

I could run back and forth between the computer and the shop and try to describe this...But you can work this out without too much difficulty. Start by grabbing the throttle grip, twisting and see which way it turns ( I know it sounds dumb, but try this) Now look at the underside of the clamp to see which cable end goes in the front of the clamp. Its the one where the threads are part of the bent tube. Install this one first, run it under the coils and under the reciever on the carb shaft it has to turn. The second cable is easier because it goes in the other holes.

Good Luck, don't give up, I'm waiting for the battery on my new camera to charge so I can take pictues to send.

Kerry

cafeconleche · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2009, 05:18:14 PM »

Thanks for your help,

I'm definitely not giving up, but I still can't figure out how to secure the cables to the housing when there isn't any threading in the housing for the cables to screw into. Am I making any sense or am I getting to wordy? I'll try to take some more photos of what i mean tomorrow

kerryb · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2009, 05:23:42 PM »

Okay, now we're getting somewhere. In your picture you have the bent tubes in the correct places. Your problem is the missing threads. Yes, your photos are so good I think I can see the lack of threads where they are supposed to be.

Maybe cable tension is supposed to keep the tube in place, but I'm not comfortable with that. A little cable slop seems like a good idea.

This may take some thought....

kerry

Duke McDukiedook · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2009, 05:52:02 PM »

You would have to tap the threads into the aftermarket housing. If you have the correct size and pitch it should be no problem.

cafeconleche · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2009, 07:16:25 AM »

Quote from: Dukiedook on February 15, 2009, 05:52:02 PM

You would have to tap the threads into the aftermarket housing. If you have the correct size and pitch it should be no problem.

I thought about this, but i doubt it would work as the holes in the housing that would be getting tapped are considerably smaller than the threading on the cable

fuzzybutt · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2009, 08:21:38 AM »

you need either custom cables OR the aftermarket throttle that fits the stock cables. i know motion pro makes one for stock cables, possibly tomaselli too.

Duke McDukiedook · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2009, 09:01:39 AM »

Quote from: fuzzybutt on February 16, 2009, 08:21:38 AM

you need either custom cables OR the aftermarket throttle that fits the stock cables. i know motion pro makes one for stock cables, possibly tomaselli too.

Yeah Fuzzy, I was kinda trying to alude to that without saying it but ya never know what resources people have out there.

754 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2009, 09:04:06 AM »

That throttle wont work, it is for dual PULL cables.. think Tri Nort BSA

You might get yout pull to work, but not you return cable..

cafeconleche · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2009, 01:39:59 PM »

Aw crap!

Oh Well, just put an order in at motionpro for one that will

cafe750 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2009, 01:48:21 PM »

The motion pro unit works really well, as I've just popped one on my bike. I also made it a 1/4 turn throttle by building up the stock tube with some quicksteel....works awesome.

kerryb · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2009, 02:01:38 PM »

And now for my next lesson...What's a 1/4 turn throttle? Is it like a 1/4 turn ball valve...1/4 turn from closed to full on? Wouldn't that make the throttle seem "twitchy" or difficult to regulate in small increments? And if I DID want one, how much filling in the sleeve groove does it take?

"If we don't ask the "dumb" questions, we'll never get around to the really intelligent ones.
Thanks for bearing with me, I'm new and words alone can only hurt my feelings!

cafeconleche · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2009, 02:27:16 PM »

Quote from: kerryb on February 17, 2009, 02:01:38 PM

And now for my next lesson...What's a 1/4 turn throttle? Is it like a 1/4 turn ball valve...1/4 turn from closed to full on? Wouldn't that make the throttle seem "twitchy" or difficult to regulate in small increments? And if I DID want one, how much filling in the sleeve groove does it take?

"If we don't ask the "dumb" questions, we'll never get around to the really intelligent ones.
Thanks for bearing with me, I'm new and words alone can only hurt my feelings!

I agree

Thanks for being patient with me everyone

Jake

cafe750 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2009, 03:29:22 PM »

Quote from: cafeconleche on February 17, 2009, 02:27:16 PM

Quote from: kerryb on February 17, 2009, 02:01:38 PM
And now for my next lesson...What's a 1/4 turn throttle? Is it like a 1/4 turn ball valve...1/4 turn from closed to full on? Wouldn't that make the throttle seem "twitchy" or difficult to regulate in small increments? And if I DID want one, how much filling in the sleeve groove does it take?

"If we don't ask the "dumb" questions, we'll never get around to the really intelligent ones.
Thanks for bearing with me, I'm new and words alone can only hurt my feelings!

I agree

Thanks for being patient with me everyone

Jake

It's 1/4 turn from closed to open, and it's something that you get used to. I find it easier to regulate the throttle opening. Instead of having to grab a second handfull of throttle when I'm pitched hard into a corner, I just give a slight twist for more speed.

KB02 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 18, 2009, 06:45:43 AM »

Quote from: cafe750 on February 17, 2009, 01:48:21 PM

The motion pro unit works really well, as I've just popped one on my bike. I also made it a 1/4 turn throttle by building up the stock tube with some quicksteel....works awesome.

And what is quicksteel? (My avatar says I'm a master, but really I just post a lot.

)

cafe750 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 18, 2009, 08:49:29 AM »

Its a metallic epoxy, that is as hard as steel when its done curing, comes in putty form that makes it easy to work with. Once I find my camera, I'll take some pictures...

cafeconleche · « **Reply #16 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:39:06 AM »

sounds awesome

also sounds like a home gym infomercial

cafeconleche · « **Reply #17 on:** March 04, 2009, 09:03:57 AM »

so, I got my new throttle assy from motionpro, cables screw in perfectly. now have the problem of linking them to the carbs, which goes where?

I also think they are too long, is there any way to shorten them?

cafe750 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 09, 2009, 02:50:19 PM »

I Promised pics...so here they be.
First one shows throttle cable routing with the stock cables, the routing that I've found works without any sort of binding, and without shortening anything.

Next one is the clutch side, and the cable is just routed over the headlight...

The headlights got routed into a three position switch, Off, Low and High, and I stashed that under the tank.

Kill switch has been bypassed...I hope the safety police aren't looking too hard....

kerryb · « **Reply #19 on:** March 09, 2009, 04:33:06 PM »

That looks good...the nice thing about routing cables is the number of correct answers there are. After you go through a couple of "that won't work!"
Now about that bell...I would think that a horn button would take up less space on the handlebar. Am I missing the point? Does it fall under the "this will be fun" category?

I also see a steering stabilizer (I think) did you need it or want it. I am having a little headshake and haven't found the reason yet. Bearings are good, wheel is true. haven't tried to balance the wheel yet.

cafe750 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 09, 2009, 05:17:47 PM »

The bell is just for fun, as my oil cooler occupies the spot where the horn mounted.

There is a damper there, and it helps , but the biggest improvement came from the fork brace.

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Author Topic: Aftermarket Throttle w/stock cables (Read 2704 times)

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