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Overseas Buyers ?
« on: March 11, 2009, 09:01:03 PM »
Had an interesting talk today. I guy up in Grand Rapids Michigan had a bike listed on CL-Craigs-List,I live just south in Kalamazoo.Add is already gone was up for about 12 Hrs. Listed it as pretty stock 73 750 for $1200.00 but when I talked to him the forks were longer,paint wasn,t correct,missing sidecover,non-stock exhaust etc. Was up there for other business but always looking. Anyways I went in and had a beer and a little bike talk as I have a few of the old girls, he said it was already sold to a guy in Finland.Nothing against all shoppers anywhere, but are ,our friends overseas ,trolling CL hard for these bikes???? Must cost a small fortune to get them there.Ride on you guys and keep the beast alive!!!! :)  PS : ADD did not even have a pic. Maybe stuffing a container for shipment?? Do you folks have dealers who maybe get containers?
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Re: Overseas Buyers ?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 11:08:02 PM »
It's possible that he has a legitimate buyer from Finland, but ,in my experience, the vast majority of overseas offers for bikes on Craigslist are scammers.   

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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 11:17:07 PM »
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Re: Overseas Buyers ?
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2009, 01:03:04 AM »
There are places (Finland is one) where the market is/was so small that the used market is almost non-existent. If you want a 750/4 you have to buy one from the UK or US.

Prices in the UK at the moment are stupid, so people are starting to look at CL and places like that.

Shipping effort and expense are irrelevant if you want one, can afford it and can't buy locally.
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Re: Overseas Buyers ?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2009, 02:36:39 AM »
As someone who has had to buy large parts for my 650 from the US I think because you guys got so many SOHC bikes the States are the best place to get parts or a bargain.
Right now with fluctuating currency rates anywhere could have the advantage in importing.
Personally if I wanted a whole bike I'd be looking locally, freight for a 200 kg bike would be prohibitive. ;D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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Re: Overseas Buyers ?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2009, 03:30:54 AM »
I'm in New Zealand and shipped a 1969 K0 750 out of San Francisco in 2005 then a 1973 Kawasaki Z1 in 2008 out of Atlanta. At great expense I might add, and both bikes needed restoration and had to have various port charges and taxes paid. Add on the pathetically weak NZ dollar and you might ask yourself why the hell I did it.

Well, it's about passion. Not about making a profit or anything else. I did it just for me. Oh dear, how selfish      ;D

The USA was the prime market for all Japanese makers in the 1960's and '70's. So that's where 90 percent of the survivors are.

Remember, a lot of bikes were given as graduation presents back then. Also, the draft meant that a lot of young owners never returned from Vietnam. Very sad. Or the young owners never had a real interest in motorcycling and just parked them up. Sometimes under a tree, sometimes in a climate controlled garage. And finally, due to technology and the internet they come out on eBay and can be marketed in a truly global marketplace.

Any bikes exported to New Zealand suffered from the marine climate here and just rusted away and were junked. The only K0's I know of in this country are private imports from the UK and the USA. They are very rare here.

Also, as a testament to the creators of these bikes, they were never meant to last 40 years. So it's a credit to the designers, engineers and Soichiro Honda and everyone else in the Honda company that they are still being collected and brought back to life.

But remember it was in an age of planned obsolescence and when the next years model came out, that was the one to have.

That mentality is alive and well today too. But for some of us, the older the Japper, the more collectible it is. Does anyone on this forum really want a 2009 Shagmaster Mark II with digital this and that. I don't


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Re: Overseas Buyers ?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2009, 03:35:44 AM »
Well said Toycollector and you are spot on when you say it's about the passion for these old bikes not the amount of money we put into buying and restoring them.
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2009, 05:25:47 AM »
+1 to that

A lot of my 750 parts have come fromt he US - just more breakers and suppliers advertising on the internet. I've also looked through Craigslist a few times as I want a Hodaka dirt squirt (but money too tight right now).

When/if I get flush, I might well use CL to try and get my Hodaka.....I know, I know but when you want something... ;D
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Re: Overseas Buyers ?
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2009, 09:33:18 AM »
I sold a rough but complete and not stuck '69 Diecast to a dude in Japan.  It was the 4th teal K0 he had bought in the US that month according to the dude who picked mine up.  He was filling a container with K0 750's out in San Fran and shipping them to him.  He even paid me in some crazy Japanese money order and it was totally legit, cleared almost a year ago now.

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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2009, 10:51:51 AM »
Given what these bikes sell for outside the U.S. in many cases even with shipping included it can be close to the same price as buying one locally.  Last I checked it was $1500 to ship a bike from the Midwest to Sydney Aus.  The dollar is strengthening a bit so things can change but the biggest issue would seem to be buying a bike unseen and weeding out the scammers.  The bikes that are in demand seem to sell for about 2-4 times in local currency what it would cost in U.S. dollars after careful searching here in the U.S.  So the exchange rate plays a big roll.  A year or two ago it was a better deal maybe not as good today.  As an example a nice Yamaha XS650 that can easily be found here for $1500-2000 U.S can bring $5000-6000 in Australian dollars.

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Re: Overseas Buyers ?
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2009, 11:20:12 AM »
 I have limited experience of this but, if you find someone to dismantle and crate it properly, the shipping wouldn't be so expensive.
 For cargo space on ship (as opposed to airfreight) the actual space taken up is way more important than the weight.
 Something like CB750 can be fitted into a 3'X4'X4' weighing about 600lbs. 12 sq ft deck space, less than/up to 5' high (basically remove forks wheels, swing arm, and rear fender, bolt frame down to pallet and pack similar to original shipping crate)
 I shipped that size to USA from Britain with a total weight of 1 metric tonne for about $1200 (had a bunch of other stuff packed into the spaces between components)
 Of course, you need some one at 'other end' to reassemble parts correctly.
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2009, 06:55:53 PM »
I have limited experience of this but, if you find someone to dismantle and crate it properly, the shipping wouldn't be so expensive.
 For cargo space on ship (as opposed to airfreight) the actual space taken up is way more important than the weight.
 Something like CB750 can be fitted into a 3'X4'X4' weighing about 600lbs. 12 sq ft deck space, less than/up to 5' high (basically remove forks wheels, swing arm, and rear fender, bolt frame down to pallet and pack similar to original shipping crate)
 I shipped that size to USA from Britain with a total weight of 1 metric tonne for about $1200 (had a bunch of other stuff packed into the spaces between components)
 Of course, you need some one at 'other end' to reassemble parts correctly.
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I thought this too until I did some checking.  I could send the equivalent weight in household goods to Australia for $500.00.  Motor vehicles are a completely different matter at least as far as this example.  Different countries may have different rules.  Another thing to check is crate material.  For some countries you can't just go to Home Depot for plywood to build a crate.  It has to be chemicaly treated.  Again laws will vary.
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2009, 02:59:20 AM »
This subject is up my alley. I have imported about 18 bikes from US to Norway and know of eBay, Craigslist and Walnecks. Regarding the scammer issue - I still don't get it from the sellers point of view. Cash on account - bike released - how hard can it be??? This is the buyers risc all the way. I can pay, but do I ever get the bike?

This is why you have to establish contact to a shipper before you buy anything. There are plenty of them, but not that easy to find. Then you have to consider the pickup cost within US - which really can turn out expensiv. $200 - $1000. After a pickup and shipping to your country, you have to consider the paperwork, import taxes, value added taxes and regulations regarding the vehicle made by the Traffic Department. Brakes, mufflers, exhaust, electrical system are examples. Get a picture of this befor you buy!!!

If you are pondering on the idea of importing a bike, I recommend you to contact the VJMC club around you and ask if anyone has the experience, or get in contact with someone else who has.

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Re: Overseas Buyers ?
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2009, 06:26:19 PM »
Thanks for all the input you Guys. We are lucky here that we do have so many opportunities to buy bikes and parts and thanks to the internet I think there will be more than enough parts and pieces to not only keep these bikes rolling here but overseas and keep the website chatting as well.Spring is coming and we are ready here in the north!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2009, 06:35:26 PM »
About 6 yrs ago I sent a 27 HD in pieces, created to Germany for about 500 USD

 and a Ducati Single to NZ, for around 300 USD.

 I didnt think it was bad probably cost me 1/2 of that to ship a crank from USA to Canada by mail..
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