I think you like the sound of your own voice, and you are entitled to your opinion because thats all it is.
Retro,
I think you like the sound of your own voice, and you are entitled to your opinion because thats all it is.
Hey, that works two ways, doesn't it?
What would be your explanation to changes in climate that are happening in OTHER parts of the world, yes the planet goes through cycles, this is a fact, the other fact that is glaringly obvious to me is that even if the climate differentials we are experiencing at the moment were part of a bigger picture you wouldn't accept it until you were sitting in your lounge with your feet in whatever ocean it is nearest you.
A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.
I believe I started in the discussion way back by saying the earth has been in a warming cycle for the last 10,000 years.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=48371.msg509501#msg509501I thought your dispute was that it was us humans that are causing it. And, we must all pay in some way to change it back to 10 or 50 years ago.
All this "smoke and mirrors" crap is just that, paranoid delusional rubbish. Get off the conspiracy band wagon and offer some theory as to what you think is actually happening.
See:
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=48371.msg509501#msg509501In Australia we have had, in the last 10 years, more record weather events than any other time in our history,
And what percentage of that history is that, in terms of the earths 4.5 Billion years age?
I maintain that if the earth sneezed, that's the equivalent to a small part of the first inkling of that pre-sneeze itch. And, you know, sometimes that itch doesn't even generate a real sneeze.
our "Island" is ancient and we have some of the oldest land structures in the world, untouched because of its remoteness, and through every survey done so far the changes that are happening here have happened before but at a much slower rate.
So, do you expect there areas to remain unchanged for 10,000 years?
You give this "change" absolutely no chance of happening,
Another straw man argument?
Actually, I guarantee it will change, given enough time, whether humans remain in existence or not. The first big meteor that comes along and we're done, no mater how much CO2 you've saved.
and i hope you are right, but i can't say 100% that it is happening and you CAN'T say it isn't.
Where was this argument manufactured? Wasn't this about what the >cause< if it happening?
I waste my breath once again.... 
Yes, it would appear so.
With all that CO2 you are producing, don't you feel guilty about killing future generations?
What astounds me is that you've bought into the "smoke and Mirrors crap", to coin a phrase, from the global warming/climate change alarmists, that fosters the belief that human's are the cause for a trend that's been ongoing for thousands if not millions of years.
If, I say IF, humans were the cause, who gets to decide what parts of the herd needs to be culled? The elite? "Sorry, human #543017556, you have to die because you are sucking up oxygen and making CO2, and there's a good chance you'll make more little CO2 generators. The earth told us that this we can't have that happen, go stand in the Soylent line, or else!"
Cheers,
