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Offline Sam Green Racing

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Do manufacturers care
« on: March 23, 2009, 08:04:58 PM »
I'm not to sure. yesterday, Benly Ben asked, if you're left handed and you're pushing a bike, which side would you push from ?
We let him help out in the workshop and he must have felt akward at some time being on the wrong side as I do when I have no option when moving a bike.
Talking to a mate in the pub that night, I told him that I had bought a Honda in the States. Joking, he asked if it was left hand drive.
Knowing a little about bikes, he asked about the side stands on bikes. He asked are the side stands in left hand drive countries on the right ?
I told him that as far as I know, all bikes have side stands to the left and imediately figured out where he was coming from.
In a drive on the left country, you pull up at the side of the road, put down the sidestand and get off the bike into the path of on coming traffic, how safe is that.
Perhaps the Japanese have an excuse and are trying to get rid of you Americans for messing them about ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Japan is one of the few countries outside the Commonwealth of Nations to drive on the left. An informal practice of left-hand passage dates at least to the Edo period. Samurai wore their swords on their left side, and by also passing to that side they avoided knocking swords. (If they had knocked swords, samurai were obliged to duel.) During the late 1800s, Japan built its first railways with British technical assistance, and double-tracked railways adopted the British practice of running on the left. Stage Coach Order issued in 1870 and the revision in 1872 said mutually approaching horses had to avoid each other by shifting to the left.[46] An order issued in 1881 said mutually approaching horses and vehicles had to avoid each other by shifting to the left. An order issued in 1885 stated that general horses and vehicles had to avoid to the left, but they also had to avoid to the right when they met army troops, until the double standard was legally resolved in 1924.[47]

After the defeat of Japan during World War II, Okinawa was under control of the United States and made to drive on the right. Okinawa was returned to Japanese control in 1972 and changed back to driving on the left six years later, at 06:00 on 30 July 1978. (See 730 (transport).) It is one of very few places to have changed from right- to left- traffic in the late twentieth century.

In Japan, foreign cars sold locally have traditionally been LHD, which is regarded as exotic or a status symbol. This aspect had been unknowingly illustrated in the beginning of Japanese film Spirited Away, where the protagonist's wealthy father drives a LHD Audi. This even applies to British brands (although cars for the British market have the steering wheel on the right), in part because many have been imported via the U.S., but many other European countries have made RHD models for the Japanese market. Many tollbooths in Japan have a special lane for LHD vehicles. However, some U.S. manufacturers have made RHD models for the Japanese market (e.g., the Jeep Cherokee (XJ), Ford Probe, Ford Taurus, Saturn S-Series and Chevrolet Cavalier), albeit with limited success.

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2009, 09:05:28 PM »
1080 is ready to take on the world !

 His sohc 4 chopper has a sidestand on both sides.. :o
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2009, 09:17:05 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 04:36:40 AM »
never thought about that
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2009, 05:41:12 AM »
If you use the center stand, then you should be OK no matter what country you're in!
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2009, 07:29:37 AM »
My forehead is all wrinkly now, as I am confused.

In a "drive on the left" country, when you have to pull over, you pull over on the right?  That's where the oncoming traffic is, and seems more dangerous to cross the oncoming traffic, than to be on the side of the road facing that traffic.  Besides, I'd rather be facing the traffic so I can see it coming, as opposed to how it always happens- with traffic coming from behind you.  Which I would point out that when; "left side drivers pull over on the left" and "right side drivers pull over on the right", the traffic is always coming from behind you.


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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2009, 07:47:07 AM »
My Canadian made 1930 Model A Ford is embossed on the right side
of the fire wall showing right hand drive steering wheel cut outs and mounting points.
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2009, 07:50:44 AM »
One thing u may notice Sam is that your headlight will be shining to the right which in your case into oncoming traffic.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2009, 12:53:35 PM »
I had a 48 Ford pickup (canadian made I think) that had all provisions to put the controls on the right hand side and it came that way from the factory.  Steering box mounts, brake mastercylinder mounting points on the cross member on the floor etc.  The only safety feature on the truck that I am aware of was the passenger door could be locked with a key but the drivers door could not! 
I had the factory parts manual for this truck and it listed the RHD pieces as "for export". 
i could never find out if the dash had to be changed so the instruments would be in front of the operator. The manual made no mention of a alternate dash and there was no cut out to move the instrument panel.

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Re: Do manufacturers care
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2009, 12:57:03 PM »
One thing u may notice Sam is that your headlight will be shining to the right which in your case into oncoming traffic.

Good point, BobbyR..

Also, if you had to pull off to the side of the road, the shoulder usually slopes downward away from the pavement, so having the bike lean into the upward-slanting side of the hill is better- otherwise the bike would topple over.
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2009, 05:24:52 PM »
I guess bikes are pretty universal, you sit in the middle no difference in controls for driving on the correct side of the road, or the left.  ;D
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2009, 05:35:51 PM »
I always thought it bad form to get on/off, or push, a bike from the right side. To me the motorcycle is the descendant of the horse, and any horse rider will tell you to always mount/dismount the animal from the left.

As for the idea the kickstand indicating country/culture of origin I'd say you can't count on that. If so you'd have to question why some makes who put the gear shift on the wrong (right) side.

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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2009, 05:48:26 PM »
Oh God, why do I post to these kind of threads?! My brain hurts already.  :-[

I was thinking that too. Well, this whole thing started out of an evening of drinking...  ::) :P
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2009, 06:06:50 PM »
I have always pushed bikes from the left hand side. Never realized that before
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2009, 08:05:05 AM »
To me the motorcycle is the descendant of the horse, and any horse rider will tell you to always mount/dismount the animal from the left.
I used to ride horses when I was younger and thinking about it, I don't think I could get on a horse from the right side if I had to. It would seem just as awkward getting on a bike from the right side.
I had to waste research a few minutes looking up why we get on from the left. It's because us righties wear our sword on the left and it would get in the way when we mount.
So I guess lefties would wear their sword on the right and mount from the right?
Dang! Now my head hurts.

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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2009, 09:31:06 AM »
I guess bikes are pretty universal, you sit in the middle no difference in controls for driving on the correct side of the road, or the left.  ;D

Say that after riding an old British bike.  You'll look down at the foot controls and say "Who switched these things around?".
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