Author Topic: My first real ride (Read 2323 times)

1884dale · « **on:** March 27, 2009, 10:45:42 AM »

well i went for my first real ride last week ( 130 miles) and the ol' girl did GREAT! i have mainly been puttin around close to home so if something happened it wouldn't be far to push! these old bikes turn a lot of heads, i guess i understand why, you really only have 3 choices now it is either crotch rocket, harley davidson, or nearly davidson. i have put about 1500 miles on her since the end of october. i should have gotten one of these YEARS ago! the only thing is that i know it is time for a new chain and sprockets i can't keep it adjusted now thanks to all for the help gettin her goin

heffay · « **Reply #1 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:08:42 AM »

Quote from: Dale_in_TN on March 27, 2009, 10:45:42 AM

the only thing is that i know it is time for a new chain and sprockets i can't keep it adjusted now

hmmm... it shouldn't just keep stretching and stretching... what seems to be the problem.
are you sure your rear wheel and adjustments aren't worn or coming loose.

yes, of course your chain can be worn... but even a badly worn chain can be adjusted properly and should not come "out of adjustment"... it will just usually have loose spots and tight spots, etc.

not trying to talk you into carrying on w/ your chain... just asking for info.

congrats on the 1st big ride!

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #2 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:37:28 AM »

Not to disagree with you Heff.... cuz I do agree with you.

But I had a 630 x-ring on my turbo and that bastard stretched to almost a mile. Only had 800 miles on it.

1884dale · « **Reply #3 on:** March 27, 2009, 12:14:56 PM »

can someone help me with oem part numbers for a k8 front and rear sprocket

heffay · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2009, 12:23:48 PM »

no... but this might help the search

http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/honda-motorcycle-cb750k-1979/o/m2001

tramp · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2009, 05:51:02 AM »

bought a cheap chain that stretched all year long
bought a o ring chain and never had that problem again

333 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2009, 07:08:46 AM »

I think the key word is "cheap", not "o-ring" Tramp.

And not to be padantic (a word I learned in this forum) but chains do not stretch, they wear. The holes in the inner links become oval making it seem like the chain is stretching.

Duke McDukiedook · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2009, 07:33:37 AM »

What? I thought chains stretch and ropes push, right?
These darn misinformation interwebs, nothing but a series of tubes...

cleveland · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2009, 02:40:30 PM »

Sure your axle isn't slipping? Check your chain adjuster to be sure it's not bent.

Uncle Ernie · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2009, 03:20:39 PM »

Quote from: 333 on March 31, 2009, 07:08:46 AM

I think the key word is "cheap", not "o-ring" Tramp.

And not to be padantic (a word I learned in this forum) but chains do not stretch, they wear. The holes in the inner links become oval making it seem like the chain is stretching.

Not to be pedantic, but you spelled padantic wrongly.

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #10 on:** April 01, 2009, 09:41:59 AM »

Spend the cash and buy a good chain with a high tensile strength rating of 10,000 or more.

Or buy a cheap chain and keep adjusting and replacing.

Oh yeah, lube em or lose em.

1884dale · « **Reply #11 on:** April 02, 2009, 11:38:04 AM »

thanks for the help... i bought a new chain on e-bay back in october the guy said that is was just laying around and he was selling all his parts that he didn't need.. i got a new o-ring chain ( continuous ) in the honda package shipped to my house for less than $35!! btw, it is also a 630 i also have a jt front sprocket now, just need the rear. i will have to do some more checking out because the chain will NOT stay in adjustment! i can't figure it out! keep the insight coming, i need all the help i can get

Inigo Montoya · « **Reply #12 on:** April 02, 2009, 11:52:19 AM »

OK so if you have new sprockets but yet the chain does not stay in adjustment, it is either the alighment is off causing accelerated wear OR you might not be tightening the rear axle and chain adjustment bolts/nuts. Get it all adjusted and aligned, then make sure you tighten the rear axle good and the nuts on the adjustment bolts. Make sure you put the cotter pin in the rear axle to keep the nut from coming loose.

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #13 on:** April 02, 2009, 12:24:35 PM »

Quote from: vinmans brew on April 02, 2009, 11:52:19 AM

OK so if you have new sprockets but yet the chain does not stay in adjustment, it is either the alighment is off causing accelerated wear OR you might not be tightening the rear axle and chain adjustment bolts/nuts. Get it all adjusted and aligned, then make sure you tighten the rear axle good and the nuts on the adjustment bolts. Make sure you put the cotter pin in the rear axle to keep the nut from coming loose.

+1

or.

lol weld it all in place.... that'll fix it!!!

Caaveman82 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 02, 2009, 12:52:29 PM »

Don't even mig it either, just use the torch to put it all together.

1884dale · « **Reply #15 on:** April 02, 2009, 01:04:28 PM »

Quote from: HavocTurbo on April 02, 2009, 12:24:35 PM

Quote from: vinmans brew on April 02, 2009, 11:52:19 AM
OK so if you have new sprockets but yet the chain does not stay in adjustment, it is either the alighment is off causing accelerated wear OR you might not be tightening the rear axle and chain adjustment bolts/nuts. Get it all adjusted and aligned, then make sure you tighten the rear axle good and the nuts on the adjustment bolts. Make sure you put the cotter pin in the rear axle to keep the nut from coming loose.

+1

or.

i don't have the new chain and sprockets on yet... i still need to pick-up a rear sprocket first.. i thought maybe i was doing something wrong, like not tightening something. so i went out this morning and loosened the axle nut and took that brace loose that bolts on by the rear brake. i loosened the chain adjuster nuts and turned the bolts to get the right tension on the chain. double checked that the adjusters were at the same mark and tighened everything up. i went on a ride for about 10 miles and it was loose again. i just don't know what to think $:-\$

lol weld it all in place.... that'll fix it!!!

cleveland · « **Reply #16 on:** April 02, 2009, 01:04:50 PM »

Quote from: vinmans brew on April 02, 2009, 11:52:19 AM

.....you might not be tightening the rear axle and chain adjustment bolts/nuts. Get it all adjusted and aligned, then make sure you tighten the rear axle good and the nuts on the adjustment bolts. Make sure you put the cotter pin in the rear axle to keep the nut from coming loose.

Yea, that's what I was thinking too. I had the exact same problem and getting another 1/6 turn out of the bolt fixed the problem.

Inigo Montoya · « **Reply #17 on:** April 02, 2009, 01:58:23 PM »

Thats how I do it. I align everything and then go by bolt sides when adjusting, not the marks. The marks may be foo, the bolts will not as pitch and size will be the same.

heffay · « **Reply #18 on:** April 02, 2009, 02:41:42 PM »

Quote from: vinmans brew on April 02, 2009, 01:58:23 PM

Thats how I do it. I align everything and then go by bolt sides when adjusting, not the marks. The marks may be foo, the bolts will not as pitch and size will be the same.

actually... if you really want to do it right... measure each side, swingarm pivot center to axle center.

so, do you think the marks moved over time? do you think they were not precisely placed? ... because, they were... i would measure before i would start counting turns on a bolt.

1884dale · « **Reply #19 on:** April 02, 2009, 02:44:58 PM »

thanks you guys have given me more to look at i'll give it a shot next chance i get

thanks again

Inigo Montoya · « **Reply #20 on:** April 03, 2009, 06:47:42 AM »

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so, do you think the marks moved over time? do you think they were not precisely placed? ... because, they were... i would measure before i would start counting turns on a bolt.

What if the arm is tweaked a little? Not enough to be unsafe but enough to make the marks less accurate? Pus, I don't know about your world but I have never seen a bolt change its pitch or suddenly enlarge its head. So using bolt facings is every bit as good as measuring. Maybe more so depending on the persons measuring skills. I have done it this way and always have a good alignment. But I suppose it is easy to knock something you have not tried.

cleveland · « **Reply #21 on:** April 03, 2009, 07:40:07 AM »

Quote from: vinmans brew on April 03, 2009, 06:47:42 AM

What if the arm is tweaked a little? Not enough to be unsafe but enough to make the marks less accurate? Pus, I don't know about your world but I have never seen a bolt change its pitch or suddenly enlarge its head. So using bolt facings is every bit as good as measuring. Maybe more so depending on the persons measuring skills. I have done it this way and always have a good alignment.

Are you saying that the lines are off on your swingarm? I have never seen that before. Can you post pics of each side to give us an idea of how much they are off?

Thanks!

Inigo Montoya · « **Reply #22 on:** April 03, 2009, 07:52:05 AM »

I have never measured my marks. I used the hondaman method and then from there used the bolt facing to determine my adjustment. As the bolts are the same on both sides, it works very well. However, I have read about a person having marks not aligned. It was right here but it was a very old post, I dug a lot.

cleveland · « **Reply #23 on:** April 03, 2009, 08:59:24 AM »

Do the marks line up?

1884dale · « **Reply #24 on:** April 07, 2009, 12:10:32 PM »

thanks for the help guys turns out I didn't have the axle nut tight enough!!! easy fix thankfully, but makes me realize how much of a newbie I am

thanks again

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