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Offline Freaky1

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Pod Air Filters
« on: February 11, 2009, 05:41:08 AM »
I have wondered this for a few years but no that I'm looking at putting these things on I guess it is actually time to find out. Like I said I'm looking at putting pod air filters on my bike and would like to know if bad weather affects them. Now I don't PLAN on riding in bad weather but living here the weather can change in a heartbeat. Will riding in the rain and or snow be a bad thing, will it get in my carbs and do bad things? I plan to ride my bike every day and am sure there will be times I get caught in the rain or even snow and if this is a problem then I'll have to change something. Thoughts, ideas, or suggestions are greatly welcomed
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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2009, 05:46:40 AM »
Search brother, search.  I bet if you put in Pod filter, wait let me see......  Click the search button above, type in "pod filter" and you get more than 50 resulting threads which will answer all nuance of how pod filters affect your bike.  But can only provide a guide as to how to tune your carbs based on your bike's scenario.

Please read up first and come back and ask a more specific question if it hasn't been thoroughly covered.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2009, 05:50:02 AM »
Pods will definitely ingest water if you ride in the rain.

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2009, 06:39:59 AM »
Yes.
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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2009, 08:52:13 AM »
Figured as much, thanks to most of you.
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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2009, 09:21:27 AM »
Figured as much, thanks to most of you.

If you take UnCrash's advice, you'll see that some say yes, some say no.  On this forum there are as many varied opinions on pod filters as there are on which oil to use. 

I'm assuming the answer you got that was the most informative is the one you're excluding in the "thanks to most of you" comment, but perhaps I'm wrong.  If so, please forgive me.  You'll soon find that there are many, many questions concerning the use and maintenance of these bikes that have no cut-and-dry yes or no answer, and if that's what you expect to get every time you ask a question, you're going to be very disappointed.   

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2009, 10:10:43 AM »
Sorry to glib with my response but whenever I see a post about pod filters and it doesn't start with "I searched the threads but couldn't find any information on..." it drives me a little cuckoo.
Please search the threads and ask specific questions and people here can help you a lot more.
General questions about something that has been threaded to death here doesn't help anyone.
There are a lot of opinions on this topic just like oil.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2009, 10:25:40 AM »
OP did ask a specific question:


Like I said I'm looking at putting pod air filters on my bike and would like to know if bad weather affects them.


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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2009, 10:36:54 AM »
Sorry man, you are right.  :-[
I guess I got this post confused with some previous posts- it's been a crappy week at work for me here.  :P
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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2009, 11:00:21 AM »
Thoughts, ideas, or suggestions are greatly welcomed

Figured as much, thanks to most of you.

Anyone else notice the contrast in sentiment?

Anyway...
You'll probably get as much damage from poor carb jetting as you will from water injestion.

Engine won't run as well while injesting water, so you'll get performance issues during the event.
If the water isn't removed before shutdown, internal parts like valves, cylinder walls, etc. in contact with water will rust/corrode, including the exhaust internals.
Water contaminated oil doesn't lube as well, and promotes the formation of amino acids, also of detriment to metal components.
If your pods are paper elements (there are, what, dozens of styles made in the last thirty years.), water softens the paper and they distort and change their behavior.  If they are foam, then they'll have to be re-oiled after the rain event. (If they were oiled in the first place.)

All these things tend to shorten engine life.

But, I suppose if you are putting on pods for looks, it will look like you want it to in the short time you'll operate the bike before moving on to more exciting machines.  And, it'll still look bad-ass to the potential buyer who'll inherit the problems induced by the P.O.

And, don't worry, I already know you're not going to thank me. (Insert sarcastic smiley here.)




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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2009, 01:18:41 PM »
Unfortunately, sarcasm doesn't translate well when typing, a lesson that I have learned. Also I don't have all the free time I'd like to sit here and read every post, someday maybe. I felt I did ask a question and I was not expecting one concrete answer, I rather prefer more than one, just was not expecting the first one I got. I see that maybe a more specific question about a particular filter might have been better, like maybe oiled vs not, or Uni filters or K&N. What I was really looking for from the start was an answer like the one posted by TwoTired ;), although I think I needed to be more specific from the start.
But really what other options are there besides that 10 lb. shoe box Honda calls an air filter, nothing I have seen looks like it would do much better at keeping water out when riding. I'm also not looking to cut corners so spending more, if it will help, is not an issue. I have always believed that chrome does not get you home, and more times than not things look good but aren't worth a S*#t when it really matters, that's what I was really looking to find out, no bubbles no troubles.
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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2009, 04:57:59 PM »

If money is no object, refurbish the original airbox system. Honda spent a lot of $$$ on R&D and is in the business to sell working, reliable motorcycles. K&N (or whomever) are in the business to sell you their product.

Pods do look cool, don't get me wrong, but unless you are willing to go all the way and do the engine mods needed to really make use of the improved breathing it'll be like putting $500 basketball shoes on someone for the special Olympics.
 
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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2009, 05:24:58 PM »
Your just lucky this forum isn't full of chemists. I belong to another on-line forum, where if you make a spelling mistake you could be banned. Granted a spelling mistake here will be less likely to blow your hand off or kill you. They also had another little pet peeve and I think it translates to most other forums where a good amount of knowledge is presented. No one wants to go through and post the same answer to the same question over and over again, so you might not want to, but out of respect for the people who have answered the question a hundred times, UTFSE.

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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2009, 05:31:32 PM »
Thanks Billy I now have a new favorite acronym
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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2009, 05:59:43 PM »
No problem. ;D

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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2009, 07:02:23 PM »
Took me a minute, but it is a fine search engine! Every time I use that term I will remember Billy.
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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2009, 11:15:30 AM »

If money is no object, refurbish the original airbox system. Honda spent a lot of $$$ on R&D and is in the business to sell working, reliable motorcycles. K&N (or whomever) are in the business to sell you their product.

Pods do look cool, don't get me wrong, but unless you are willing to go all the way and do the engine mods needed to really make use of the improved breathing it'll be like putting $500 basketball shoes on someone for the special Olympics.
 
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Let's not get crazy, I wish I had buckets of money. I already have an aftermarket exaust, eariler '70 carbs, and new coils, points and plugs. It might sound a little crazy but I'm kinda looking foward to the challenge of getting the carbs jetted right and dialed in. I don't want a stock bike, I want to push this thing as far as it will go, but like I said eariler, I have some sort of budget. I want to reach a good spot and ride the summer, then back into the shop next winter and take it a bit farther and rinse and repeat.
As for UTFSE, I will, if only for you billy! :-* :o
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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2009, 01:01:27 PM »
I have pods on my 86 GSXR 750 with Mikuni flatslides and I had little trouble getting it to run right.  The manual that came with it helped.  I will put pods on my 550 before I finish my cafe.  I try not to ride those bikes in the rain.  Tho I do carry plastic bags with elastic to cover them  on over night road trips.  I have other bike with the airbox so I don't worry about some rain.
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2009, 01:33:59 PM »
I too was considering pods since my stock airbox doesn't quite go together the way it should anymore. #1  It looks as if the plastic is warped by where the air inlet is. #2  The four plastic tubes that go from in the box and connect to the inlets on the carbs don't seal well.  #3  After removing the engine to replace the valve tappet cover o-rings, the airbox would not align easily with the frame for attaching.  Refurbishing the airbox sounds like a nice idea, but where would I get the parts to do it?

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Re: Pod Air Filters
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2009, 03:27:36 PM »
This thread should be required reading for any and all who want to make the switch to pods:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=22036.0


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