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racing update
« on: April 10, 2009, 08:44:19 AM »
Race update
Hello sohc’ers, been away for a while wrenching and racing, time for an update
With my bike running pretty well at the end of last season and a heavy winter looming I decided to try spend a bit lees time in my cold underground garage. I limited my work to fitting new valves in the head (pattern from David silver), adapting a half fairing (Ducati 750 Imola replica) and creating a new braking system with small Brembo calipers. The last job turned out to be quite long with lots of fitting, shimming and turning of special spacers. Glad how it came out though. With all due respect for the modern calipers that some fit to sohc’s, I think this is the way to go if you want your CB to look period. Just by switching to these from the original Honda heavy items I’ve saved a good 3 pounds of unsprung weight and after hooking the lines up the lever firm more solid than ever. See them here:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=44616.msg470555#msg470555

Managed to bring the bike to the dyno before the first race in Rome, alas the dyno SW has crashed but at least I used the occasion to make a few pulls, check for oil leaks and stuff. We packed the car, drove down to Rome and happily I did the right thing and booked two free practice sessions Friday before the race. As I went to the track turned out that bike wasn’t running well, just not pulling as it should and my lap times were crap. Not that I knew why…. As it was very windy, I decided to try and lower the gearing as see if it helps. So lucky! As I took the rear wheel off it turned out that two of the four the bolts studs that transfer torque to the CB350 hub were broken. That would have been a DNF! Quick trip to the near town got me high grade steel 12mm bolts, so that problem solved. As I pulled out from the second session, bike was still running badly, time for a plug chop…. I usually do it by pulling the number four plug out but this time decided to see number three and found out that the HT wire was half out! That was the reason for the misfire! With that problem fixed bike was running like a gem. Another positive note is that the Brembo calipers transformed the braking, it is now constant, strong and fade free, really important in racing and the fairing helped a lot in the long straight of Vallelunga were you easily hit 120-130 with our CB’s. That straight has a serious kink that you take flat out at 120… pretty scary that one.
Qualified well in the middle of the 500 field, race went really well with me getting a nice 9th place out of some 18 starters in the class at my first time in this difficult track.

Race two was a month later and went even better. On the two wet qualifying sessions on Saturday I’ve ended up sixth out of 20 on the gird, the first time ever that I start from second row! Looks like I do well in the wet. Shame that I somewhat blew the start on the race on Sunday, losing quite few places. Then I lost some more places when I had the bike crossed up in one wet turn! (see pic). The track was only half wet and drying so I held my own to finish in eight place out of 18 while the pace slowly picked up. The nice thing is that I fell like my riding improved lots this year, so looks like I finally need to invest in a set of 29 CR’s or VM’s to close the power gap that I have. If anybody got a set he’s not using, I’d love to hear from him.   
Next race is in two weeks  time near Milan and I’m quite pumped up. After this race I have a longish break and I am going to pull the pistons out (they are a season old) as the bike is starting to smoke pretty heavily now and seems to need a rebore.
Cheers for now

TG 

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Re: racing update
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2009, 10:19:24 AM »
Hey TG,

Good to hear from you and that the racing is going well. Keep up the good work and make us proud of the old SOHC's.

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Re: racing update
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 10:36:52 AM »
Hei rob

good to hear from you too. Out in the tracks yet?

Have a rather big break here in may-june-july, wouldnt mind driving up north for a nice event.

When is Chimay?

any other ideas?

Cheers

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Re: racing update
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2009, 10:46:31 AM »
Hey TG,

Am rather busy with voxonda.com so very little time to do my own bikes ::) I will check when there are races in Belgium. In Holland there are very little races you can participate in. In the classic races it is prohibited to use disk brakes on the Honda's >:(
Will try to get some calender date's for you.
Always nice talking to you.

Cheers, Rob
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Re: racing update
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2009, 10:50:17 AM »
good results TG! wish i could catch a race while i'm over there..

the imola rep. fairing looks good. i've been trying to decide in a half fairing for the 718 bike, and that's one of the ones i'm considering. new brakes look great too. good luck with the rest of the season!
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Re: racing update
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 10:55:55 AM »
Have contacted a guy from whom I know is riding in Belgium in the Classic's. Here is the first one:

Famous circuit allthough kinda fast and dangerous.
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Re: racing update
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 11:18:36 AM »
Have contacted a guy from whom I know is riding in Belgium in the Classic's. Here is the first one:

Famous circuit allthough kinda fast and dangerous.

where in belgium? i think i'll be in that area with a day off around then actually...
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Re: racing update
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2009, 11:46:51 AM »
Hey TG,

On this site you'll find what you need: http://www.crmb.be/

Let us know when and where you ride.

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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2009, 11:52:15 AM »
Have contacted a guy from whom I know is riding in Belgium in the Classic's. Here is the first one:

Famous circuit allthough kinda fast and dangerous.

where in belgium? i think i'll be in that area with a day off around then actually...

Hey paulages,
Mettet lays south of Brussel, near Charleroi. Where will you be in Belgium? 
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Re: racing update
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2009, 02:27:13 PM »
TG,

Nice powerslide in the second picture -- very Gary McCoy. 

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Re: racing update
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2009, 02:39:31 PM »
TG,

I see there's another 500/4 and a 450 or 500 twin, but what else are you racing against? i don't see any RD's.

Nice save on that cross-up by the way.

Looking good.

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Re: racing update
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2009, 02:50:36 PM »
Hey paulages,
Mettet lays south of Brussel, near Charleroi. Where will you be in Belgium? 

i just checked my itinerary, and i'll be in hamburg on the 9th, and utrecht on the 10th... day off the next day, and play leuven on the 12th. oh well, almost.
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Re: racing update
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2009, 01:02:21 AM »
Hey paulages,
Mettet lays south of Brussel, near Charleroi. Where will you be in Belgium? 

i just checked my itinerary, and i'll be in hamburg on the 9th, and utrecht on the 10th... day off the next day, and play leuven on the 12th. oh well, almost.

Distance from Leuven to Mettet is 75 km (47 miles) to the south. 
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Re: racing update
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2009, 12:41:23 PM »
Hey paulages,
Mettet lays south of Brussel, near Charleroi. Where will you be in Belgium? 

i just checked my itinerary, and i'll be in hamburg on the 9th, and utrecht on the 10th... day off the next day, and play leuven on the 12th. oh well, almost.

Distance from Leuven to Mettet is 75 km (47 miles) to the south. 

dammit, just a couple of days off. oh well. anything interesting going on in amsterdam on the 11th?
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Re: racing update
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2009, 12:49:26 PM »
Hey paulages,
Mettet lays south of Brussel, near Charleroi. Where will you be in Belgium? 

i just checked my itinerary, and i'll be in hamburg on the 9th, and utrecht on the 10th... day off the next day, and play leuven on the 12th. oh well, almost.

Distance from Leuven to Mettet is 75 km (47 miles) to the south. 

dammit, just a couple of days off. oh well. anything interesting going on in amsterdam on the 11th?

In Amsterdam all 24 hours are interesting.
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Re: racing update
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2009, 06:08:16 PM »
Hey paulages,
Mettet lays south of Brussel, near Charleroi. Where will you be in Belgium? 

i just checked my itinerary, and i'll be in hamburg on the 9th, and utrecht on the 10th... day off the next day, and play leuven on the 12th. oh well, almost.

Distance from Leuven to Mettet is 75 km (47 miles) to the south. 

dammit, just a couple of days off. oh well. anything interesting going on in amsterdam on the 11th?

In Amsterdam all 24 hours are interesting.

ha! this true. i'm sure i'll find some kind of interesting to get into. belgian fries!!!!
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Re: racing update
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2009, 10:45:09 AM »
yo guys, thanks for the info, kind words and more.

Brent, field is mostly 500-4 like mine but there are also RD's (3-4), two morini 500, (amazingly quick), two CB450 twins and that day we were bunched together with the open class (red background numbers), we started about 30 all together.

will check into mettet, so let's see

cheers

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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2009, 10:14:59 PM »
hei paul

lost track of you. when are you finally coming to italy then?

I am racing near milan on april 26

we can meet for just beer (or vino) too

Cheers

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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2009, 10:43:10 AM »
hei paul

lost track of you. when are you finally coming to italy then?

I am racing near milan on april 26

we can meet for just beer (or vino) too

Cheers

TG

i almost could've made that race.. i actually have a day off on april 26th, but it'll be spent traveling from greece back to italy i believe. the italian dates are:

TUESDAY APRIL 21 MILANO, ITALY
WEDNESDAY APRIL 22 ROME, ITALY
THURSDAY APRIL 23 day off
FRIDAY APRIL 24 ATHENS, GREECE
SATURDAY APRIL 25 THESSALONIKI, GREECE
SUNDAY APRIL 26 day off
MONDAY APRIL 27 BOLOGNA, ITALY

and...

THURSDAY MAY 21  BALOGNA, ITALY
FRIDAY MAY 22     ROME, ITALY
SATURDAY MAY 23 MILANO, ITALY
SUNDAY MAY 24    GORIZIA, ITALY

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Re: racing update
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2009, 02:50:15 PM »
TG,

Nice powerslide in the second picture -- very Gary McCoy. 

Way to represent the SOHC4's!

That's just poseing ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D well done TG, nice save, shows you're trying. 8) 8) 8) 8)

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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2009, 02:27:58 AM »
Sam,

was glad it didn't go more sideways than that as my steering stops are quite narrow,

that would have been 'over the bars' in a jiffy.....

Paul, do you have the name of the venue in Milan?

If you have a day off in Rome, do your self a favor and rent a scooter. It'll be much like a track day, oh those romans, you'll see.....

Cheers

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Re: racing update
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2009, 08:45:28 AM »
Sam,

was glad it didn't go more sideways than that as my steering stops are quite narrow,

that would have been 'over the bars' in a jiffy.....

Paul, do you have the name of the venue in Milan?

If you have a day off in Rome, do your self a favor and rent a scooter. It'll be much like a track day, oh those romans, you'll see.....

Cheers

TG

unfortunately i don't have a day off in rome, but ie experienced the scooter madness before. nothing tops napoli though. that is total insanity.

i'll let you know the venue before the date. probably at one of those big squats? is there one of those in milan? i can remember, but most of our shows are at those type of places.
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2009, 09:58:38 AM »
Just back to your getting crossed-up TG, this was always a problem with these old bikes, far moreso the 750.

Highsiding isn't fun, and you were real close to one by the looks of that pic.

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Re: racing update
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2009, 02:01:36 AM »


THURSDAY MAY 21  BALOGNA, ITALY
FRIDAY MAY 22     ROME, ITALY
SATURDAY MAY 23 MILANO, ITALY
SUNDAY MAY 24    GORIZIA, ITALY



Hi Paul,
pay atention, in those date ther's the Italian biggest Honda Four meeting, we can meet there!
We'll organize in Cergeglio, near Bologna, you can find all the info here
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2009, 05:26:09 AM »


THURSDAY MAY 21  BALOGNA, ITALY
FRIDAY MAY 22     ROME, ITALY
SATURDAY MAY 23 MILANO, ITALY
SUNDAY MAY 24    GORIZIA, ITALY



Hi Paul,
pay atention, in those date ther's the Italian biggest Honda Four meeting, we can meet there!
We'll organize in Cergeglio, near Bologna, you can find all the info here

i couldn't find the exact when and where on that site, but i'd love to meet up if possible. the schedule is very hectic, driving from balogna to rome and then back to milano... oh well, the life of a touring band.

i met turboguzzi in milan. nice guy.
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Re: racing update
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2009, 12:32:39 PM »
Hei Paul

So then, did you get to the ducati Museum at the end?

I stayed in the gig until people started to pogo around me a bit much, got to save my bones for the race this weekend

Pedro,

nice to see another italian here, hope you stay longer than Fabrizo who was active here for exactly one month
;-)

if you are from brescia, then come to see us in Franciacorta for the gruppo 5 races this weekend

Cheers

TG

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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2009, 02:17:30 PM »
Hi Turboguzzi,
yes, I'm from Brescia but I live in est Europe for work and I return at home when I can...
Unfortunately next w-e I can't... >:( I hope to meet you in other occasions, why don't you come at our meetting?

Paul,
all the info are on this link, click on "where" and "program" and you'll find all the info, we are waiting for you and all other bikers from this forum  ;)
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