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Jim Shea

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6 must be better than 4??
« on: October 28, 2005, 07:41:16 AM »
Has anyone ridden a CBX 1000. I love the look of it, but have heard bad things! but not from anyone who has actually ridden one!
They are bloody expensive in the UK, approx 4k for a decent one.

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2005, 06:49:09 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2005, 11:35:23 PM »
I rode one for 6 miles.  Fastest thing I have ever been on.  It will kill you.  I got off and asked the owner to never let me do that again.  It will lift the front wheel at 60.  At 100 your not even into the throttle.  We should ship these to Iraq as a secret weapon and let everyone kill themselfs.
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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2005, 12:54:39 AM »
If you run a search on "CBX" you'll pick up Linda's thread from a while back. There are lots of pictures of 6-6 exhausts!
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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2005, 08:36:32 AM »
I heard they are a bugger if you have to service the carbs. You have to remove the exhausts, undo the upper engine mounts and tip the engine forward in the frame. Then comes the fun of synching them. If it's a pain in the @ss to balance 4 carbs, I don't even want to fathom balancing 6!
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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2005, 09:10:57 AM »
Perhaps I will just keep dreaming of one!

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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2005, 06:09:54 PM »
Go get one and enjoy.  Saddest thing is the world is someone who at the end of life says, "I wish I had . . ." 

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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2005, 07:41:40 PM »
As the number 6 can be confused with the word 'sex', go buy it, but wear protection.
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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2005, 12:42:22 AM »
I owned a 78 CBX-Z(with 24000kms on the speedo) for a few years then sold it to a mate.
Every time I go around to his place I regret the decision and start looking for ANOTHER.
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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2005, 01:57:42 AM »
Clyde,
What problems if any did you have with the bike, keeping it running etc, is it reliable? Are there any particular things to look out for when buying one?
Did yours have 6 into 6 pipes, I read somewnere that these bikes originally came with 6 into 2?
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2005, 09:53:50 AM »
Jim, you remember me! I used to have to service the damn things and in all honesty if i had known when they were comming in i would have took the day off!!
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2005, 01:08:53 PM »
Bryan,
Hi, how are you? if you had trouble servicing them, then I hate to think what problems I would have??
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2005, 01:57:47 PM »
Save ya money Jimmy and buy a workshop manual for your 750. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2005, 03:48:14 PM »
those pipes look so cool !Ild go for it ,how bad could the servicing be ?
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2005, 06:59:26 PM »
I like 'em, nothing could accellerate like one in their day, and power wheelies were common place. Nothing that special compared to modern bikes, but in their day, awesome!

The only thing that would put me off is the complicated servicing, (24 valves!) poor ground clearance (wide!) and even poorer handling. (in standard form) Classic and Motorcycle Mechanics magazine in Britain awarded it the "Bike of the Seventies", but the rumour is that the editor of the magazine, Bob Berry, "rigged" the vote, as he was trying to sell his own CBX that had swallowed an enormous amount of money in the well documented rebuild. Most of the contributing journo's believed that it was actually a tie between the Suzuki GS1000 and the BMW R100RS.

The first model (1979?) is considered the most collectable, but apparently the later models with monoshock rear suspension were much better behaved in the bends. Good novelty value though, for sure. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2005, 04:20:04 PM »
HI.
I started on the Kawasaki KZ1300/6 water cooled and am not impressed. Wide, heavy, etc, BUT it only has 3 carborators.
I weonder if Kawasaki figured 6 carbs would be too much of a problem ?
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2005, 08:22:00 PM »
The CBX is a great handling bike if you don't try any advanced techniques like turning.   Wide a a Fridgidaire. Ungainly. Very fast.  Get the look by tacking on a couple extra mufflers onto your 750. What the heck- make it looke like a straight 8!
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2005, 02:50:22 AM »
Back than  ;D, there was also the Italien version`s Benelli 750 Sei produste from 1976 :) .had six zylinders and 6 in 6 pipes :o, if you can   find one to day , it`s my be a nice one  ;)

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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2005, 03:12:21 AM »
G'Day Egil, you're quite of course, the Benelli Sei was a six cylinder engine based on the Honda 500/4! Very interesting looking bike too, actually handled ok too, a mate's Dad had one and I rode it, much like our bikes but it handled well and actually stopped quite well with those Brembo brakes mate, I haven't seen one for awhile, but there were a few around way back when. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2005, 03:17:20 AM »
There have been previous threads on the Benellis.  They are very rare now, probably down to their "mid-70's Italian build quality"...

The later models were much uglier (IMO)
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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2005, 03:21:45 AM »
In the new swedish CLASSICBIKE (nr6/2005) ther is a looking back on the  the super six , versus,  Benelli 750-sei  &
Kavasaki Z1300 & Honda CBX 1000 , (I`m  no`t  an  exspert )  but they looking real nice.

I`m sitting and looking 8) in a "Motorrad Katalog from1978 .l have from backe than .( l was litle bit younger then .)

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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2005, 07:23:20 AM »
Here's a picture of my '79 (taken in 1980). I sold her in 1980 to buy the lot that my house now is built on. While I do miss the old girl very dearly, I had more fun times on the old K3 I had and nothing still hits me like a SOHC 750. That's me and the wife. My old Duster is in the background getting ready to tow my long gone hemi Coronet to the bodyshop.
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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2005, 08:49:06 AM »
The bike looks great, I wonder where it is today. One thing is for sure, it hasn't appreciated in value as much as your land has. But on the other hand you can't go for a cruise on a piece of land.  :)
Did you ever consider putting 6 pipes on?

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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2005, 08:53:37 AM »
At that time I was getting away from the hot rod aspect and started getting into appreciating the factory look more. From 1970 to about 1976 or so I loved aftermarket and hot rod, after that stock looking appealed more. Loved the 4 pipes on the SOHC Hondas, but when the Benelli came out, I wasn't impressed at all. Looked just too much for me.

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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2005, 09:00:16 AM »
I know what you mean, I can't decide if I like th 4 or 6 pipes more, just as well there aren't any 8 pipes around or I would want one of those as well!

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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2005, 09:27:08 AM »
Funny thing is, like I keep saying, when the SOHC came out and I saw the turquoise one at the local dealer it was instant love. The 4 pipes were sheer nirvana along with the rest of the entire beauty. When the F came out I was shocked by the single pipe. The aftermarket Hookers and Jardines and such I could handle as they were "day two" stuff. But the factory to go to one pipe? And just to be opposite the 6 pipes on a CBX do nothing for me. I've become a factory guy for exhaust systems.
However I had to do a Kerker on my F3 as the two eGouge stock pipes that showed up were less than impressive by a wide margin.

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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2005, 10:10:32 AM »
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The 4 pipes were sheer nirvana ..

I agree. Just returned from a ride and while out there thought to myself, 4 cylinders, 4 carbs, 4 pipes, what a smooth, mellow sound.  ;)

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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2005, 02:38:45 PM »
Been meanin to post that over the summer saw 5 nice cbx's.  Couple really nice (not gowdy) "customs".  A couple old striped wings too.



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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2005, 07:40:08 AM »
This one went for 1800 pounds, what a buy and I bottled it and didn't bid!! although putting 6 pipes on would cost a bundle?
Have a look at the swinging arm, why would someone do this?
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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2005, 07:46:24 AM »
Jim. The original CBX handled as well as you would expect a massive engine in a 70's frame to.  8)

Why has your F1 got Hagon shocks - same answer I'm afraid!

6-6 in stainless would cost you another 1800 (there was a guy in Classic MCM a while back who did just that)
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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2005, 08:25:53 AM »
There's a bunch of vintage Japanese bike fans living west of Toronto that get together for coffee in Belfountain. Last time I went there were 4 mint CBXs in the lot, 2 GL1000s, and a nice CB1100.
A Toronto area racer (Frank Mrazec) tried to campaign a CBX. I rode a lap at Mosport on it and even with a lot of stiffening and suspension work - plus whatever could be spared taken off - it was too heavy, too flexible, and was a handful (plus maybe an underwear full) to get around the corners even at my way-slow speed. Possibly Frank's theory was that if he got ahead on the hole shot nobody would be crazy enough to try and pass him as it hogged through the turns? It sure sounded wild with the race pipes though.

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Re: 6 must be better than 4??
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2005, 08:29:46 AM »
There were a bunch of crazy Europeans who tried special frames for road and track. Sometimes you see them mentioned:

Moto Martin
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Bimota (?)

.. bit radical though just to make it go round corners.
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