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Offline joesmotos

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1970 CB750 identification...
« on: April 29, 2009, 07:55:42 PM »
Hi yall

Im Joe in Atlanta,Ga..this is my first post..well my second actually..anyway..i picked up a 1970 CB750 with a frame date of 5/70..the VIN# is 10038089....what i can see thats obvious is that the oil tank is the smooth sided type,with no dimples..the gauges look like 1969 style with the darker numbers..the forks have the more pronounced upper..ridge?..i guess you could call it..right where the lower part of the fork boot/cover goes on..it has the unpainted front brake caliper also..and the funky seat lock. The seat appears to be a non-flip up style?(I forgot what theyre referred to as)..Honda..like a 1971 model seat.

So my question is this..the bike had no airbox or sidecovers..did this particular bike,to anyones knowledge,come with the louvered sidecovers and the smooth airbox?Did or is it supposed to have the original style seat too?Reason i ask all this is i am considering whether to restore it or not..it runs..and is actually in pretty good shape all things considered..but i dont want to be chasing down the wrong parts if at all possible!

Any help would be appreciated!Thanks for helping if you can!
Joe

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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2009, 08:00:18 PM »
its nice to see that new SOHC owners are finding us....

but serious did you see the disclaimer on the top of the Tech Forums...

READ THE FAQ and do a search on sandcast 750's please do some legwork instead of waisting time asking questions that have been asked a dozen times b4

im not in anyway trying to be rude but you did take the time to register just use the search function and you should be able to find all the info on that bike posible!

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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2009, 08:14:27 PM »
Hi again

Yes i did use the search forums..least i thought i did!
Couldnt seem to locate specific info is all...its not a sandcast engine..
I will look some more!
Thanks!

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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2009, 08:28:26 PM »
Im not far from you. Is it for sale? Sounds like a longcast!! Not as rare as a sandcast but much rarer than diecast. Im sure others will know the difference. Do you have any pics? What color?
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I think I'll be busy going for a ride.

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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2009, 09:13:19 PM »
Hi

Longcast?Never heard that one...someone painted it silver..it has the instrument covers that are sort of ..like a wrinkle paint of sorts(rough) not the smooth ones..and the 4 into 1 cable carbs...i will take some pictures tomorrow and try and post them.I have been looking at the other posts in here,using the search thingie..and theres tons of info and all..what i am trying to determine is if it had the old style seat originally and the louvered sidecovers...i dont know exactly where they made the transition..

is there some sort of difference in a longcst and the later die cast?
wow im curious now!
Thanks!
joe

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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2009, 09:36:05 PM »
if you have 4 -1 cable carbs then its definetly a 70/71 look for pictures for a 71 that will be more like your bike also if you have HM300s or HM341's for exhaust pipes... if you have hm300's then its a 70 if its hm341's its a 71

its not longcast .... its sandcast... its a ROUGHER texture to the motor castings the later motors were SMOOTH... not rough

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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2009, 10:08:10 PM »
The side covers would have been the ones with the louvers in them.  One of the front forks will have the caliper hanging off of it and the other might or might not have a mounting location for another caliper.  The earlier ones did not have that mounting location - and are possibly desirable to someone doing a restore.  That bike came with a smooth and painted airbox.  You can get a nice repro from LPM.  You can also get the side covers from LPM but someone here on the forum said they didn't have the tabs to hold in the screens - otherwise very nice.  The swingarm is a probably a bit unique.  The front wheel offset is probably slightly different than later models which were offset to accommodate 2 rotors.  If you have the earlier version, this is good as it didn't develop the "head nodding" problem as did the later wheels.  The gauges should have idiot lights in them and be dark blue (I think). 

The engine... ahhh the engine.  That is the fun part of this find.  With HM300's, it was 67 HP.  For comparison purposes, my K6 is 48-ish

I just nabbed a similar bike that is in pretty rough shape (cut up by someone wanting to make a go-cart) but mine has some (apparently) replaced parts.  My gauges are not original nor are other front end parts (I think). 

A lot of this is a guessing game.  Honda did overlap model years in an unorthodox way. 

Sounds like a great find!   


I just looked at the serial num of my engine: 1038053 - THEY WERE VERY CLOSE BRETHREN :)

BTW- many of my factoids come from the famous "Hondaman"

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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2009, 10:12:34 PM »
howdy

well...heres something interesting..
i also bought a nice 1971 cb750..green..and it has 300 series pipes on it...but the later style carbs..with the linkage..

the older one i am posting about has the 69 style carbs on it..im sorry if my posts are confusing..i will take pictures tomorrow and you can see what im referring too..oh and the 1970 bike doesnt have original pipes on it..it has some really nice 4 into two slash cuts..lol

Joe

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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2009, 06:37:24 PM »
howdy

ok heres some pics i took this afternoon,another thing i noticed is that the right handlebar control only has one hole in it for the cable,not two like the 1971 i have in the background..also appears the instruments are mounted backwards?..as in,on the wrong sides.
My original inquiry being..would this bike use the smooth airbox,louvered side covers ,and ducktail seat?or did they change the seat on the 1970 models?After reading thru tons of forum topics im still not sure...well,it appears that this bike would use a ducktail seat and the other stuff,just wanting to verify if someone knows for certain..i really appreciate the assistancce yall have given me so far!Thanks! ..Joe

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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2009, 06:50:28 PM »
it doesnt sound like you have a sandcast.. you have a K0 though :)

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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2009, 06:54:26 PM »
Im not far from you. Is it for sale? Sounds like a longcast!! Not as rare as a sandcast but much rarer than diecast. Im sure others will know the difference. Do you have any pics? What color?

hey bender....wtf is a  "longcast"  ??????????? wth is that????? never heard of anything like that before. but then again what the h#ll do i know.... definitely a new one on me.
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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2009, 07:03:41 PM »
You should have,

smaller taillight
ducktail seat
louvered sidecovers
cable-pull carbs
plastic guages
HM300 pipes
painted light ears
disc with shoulder
plastic chainguard

probably front fender with sharp ends
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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2009, 07:06:59 PM »
This site might help you too: http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/Honda_CB750K
I would say you need the louvered covers on that KO.  You have the plastic KO gauge cases too.  Looks like a nice bike to restore...but that is not OEM paint which you probably already know.  You may want to start saving for a ducktail seat...
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1970 CB750K0 - Candy Ruby Red
1973 CB750K3 - Candy Bacchus Olive or Sunflake Orange
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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2009, 07:10:56 PM »
Too strange....your colors on those bikes are the spitting image of mine....

Black/silver and Silver Black....

Strange strange

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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2009, 07:26:26 PM »
Dunno if i said this before..you guys ROCK!
Thanks for all the info
Joe

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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2009, 07:38:04 PM »
You should have,

smaller taillight
ducktail seat
louvered sidecovers
cable-pull carbs
plastic guages
HM300 pipes
painted light ears
disc with shoulder
plastic chainguard

probably front fender with sharp ends


I have a fairly original 5/70 bike Vin CB750-1036712.
Mine is as quoted above, but the front guard is cut at the back with a rolled front. This is correct for a late model K0
The tail light is the same size but held on with two bolts not three like the later ones.
Painted airbox
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Re: 1970 CB750 identification...
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2009, 08:26:19 PM »
I was being a smart a$$. The long cast still is out there!???! Not!! Joesmotos you have found the right site. Welcome. If that bike is for sale please let me know when it is.  It looks  like a great find.
  Ben
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So, the strategy is to lie to people you are asking for help?

I think I'll be busy going for a ride.

Good luck!
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