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Any prog heads in this forum?
« on: May 05, 2009, 04:17:01 PM »
What are you listening to these days?

You know there is a bunch of new prog?
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Re: Any prog heads in this forum?
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2009, 04:18:29 PM »
whats prog?

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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2009, 04:18:59 PM »
Only prog I've listened to recently is Porcupine Tree. Sometime I listen to King Crimson, early prog, IMO.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 04:40:20 PM »
whats prog?
Progressive rock music.
Moody Blues, King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Procol Harem, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Kansas, etc. are examples of early prog.

I thought it had died out in the 80s.  Not so, there is quite a vast amount out there, as I've recently discovered.  Quite good, too.

The U.S. music industry just ignores it for the most part, preferring "artists", (If you can call them that) they can more easily control and/or create with hype instead of actual musical talent/prowess.

Europeans, seem to provide the best following/support.  Far more gigs occurring over there, for which, I'm quite envious.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2009, 05:01:09 PM »
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 I pulled out In Search of the Lost Chord and A Question of Balance a couple of months ago - they were my favourites in the 70's but I couldn't seem to enter the realm this time around..  :-\

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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2009, 05:18:10 PM »
Only prog I've listened to recently is Porcupine Tree. Sometime I listen to King Crimson, early prog, IMO.

Court of the Crimson King still is pretty good.  But, both of those you listed get pretty.. ah.. moody (or broody).  Is that a music style you generally prefer?

I do really like "Blackest Eyes" off the "In Abstentia" album.

Give listen to "Pepper's Ghost" From Arena.

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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2009, 05:22:05 PM »
I tend to listen to 'darker' music. Dark jazz, dark country, dark rock, dark expirimental, dark alternative... theres a bit of a pattern there, I think... The music I write tends to be a bit dark too.

I've recently come across some really interesting 'jazz' that I love. Well, i'ts not jazz, but certainly inspired by jazz. Let me know if you want to hear some of it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2009, 05:25:36 PM »
i love yes, king crimson, floyd (especially ummagumma)
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2009, 05:32:29 PM »
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 I pulled out In Search of the Lost Chord and A Question of Balance a couple of months ago - they were my favourites in the 70's but I couldn't seem to enter the realm this time around..  :-\

What? You are unable to expand your mind, now?  ;D

Lost Chord was good for it's day. I still like both you listed. I think I may have preferred Threshold of a Dream slightly.  There is so much good new stuff out there in prog, that the old ones that are already committed to memory don't need to be played that often.  I still do occasionally, though.

Sounds like you haven't tried or like more modern prog, though.  It's nice to go back.  But, you don't have to.  Or, are you saying that you no longer like the prog style?  ???

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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2009, 05:36:33 PM »
catfood by king crimson is in fact, one of my favourite songs

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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2009, 05:53:14 PM »
I tend to listen to 'darker' music. Dark jazz, dark country, dark rock, dark expirimental, dark alternative... theres a bit of a pattern there, I think... The music I write tends to be a bit dark too.

I've recently come across some really interesting 'jazz' that I love. Well, i'ts not jazz, but certainly inspired by jazz. Let me know if you want to hear some of it.

I don't mind occasional "darkness" in music.  But not a steady diet.  I prefer to be uplifted by music rather than depressed by it. Ha Ha.   I bought an album by Joy askew some years ago on a whim.  Some depressing stuff that.  If she didn't end it all since then, I'd be surprised. 
I like jazz fusion, as well, as long as it remains melodic, instead of technical for technical sake.  It has to have some kind of melodic content and not make me want to slit my wrists.  Go ahead and suggest.  I have a pretty eclectic music collection.
 You might check out Riverside, for dark stuff.  Tomas Bodin, "I Am" is pretty dark, too.  Technically good, but a little goes a long way for me.  I think I've listened to the album 4 times since I bought it a year or two ago.  For cynical satire, try Galahad "Empires Never Last".

Not prog, but you have any interest in the Rippingtons, or perhaps Keiko Matsui?

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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2009, 06:04:35 PM »
catfood by king crimson is in fact, one of my favourite songs

Hmmmm, I wonder, would you still like it it with a different title and subject matter?

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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2009, 06:10:57 PM »
Haven't heard of any of those. Will check them out.

Heres Nine Horses, dunno if you'll like it, very very accomplished musicians that don't show off.
http://www.mlinderconsulting.com/junk/wonderful_world.mp3

/edit: checked out Keiko Matsui while uploading this song. Nice stuff.
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2009, 06:14:21 PM »
Hmmm, I always referred to a Prog as a program I can hack with.  Old school I guess.
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2009, 06:43:46 PM »
Hmmm, I always referred to a Prog as a program I can hack with.  Old school I guess.
Or... new school.  Programming wasn't all that popular in the 70's.    prog or Prog rock, wasn't as popular as "POP" music back then.  But, it had a bigger following than the total population of computer programmers, I'd bet. ;D

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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2009, 08:54:01 PM »
catfood by king crimson is in fact, one of my favourite songs

Hmmmm, I wonder, would you still like it it with a different title and subject matter?

 ;D ;D

yeah, something about the riffs that fripp is playing that grabbed me.

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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2009, 04:38:36 PM »
Haven't gotten into too much new prog, but but I love
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2009, 08:08:43 AM »
   ...you no longer like the prog style?  ???

  I'm almost too embarrassed to admit I've never heard the term "prog', thought the Moody Blues were in a category of their own which had vanished with that rarified culture years ago. Never heard of these new bands either.  Here on the airwaves in the hinterlands, the choices are country, pop, country, CBC, country and community radio. :P 
  Good thread this one, I expect the range of subjects introduced here is what keeps many of us coming back. And TT, I've learned much sohc stuff from you, last year learned you are a hockey afficionado, now an alternative music fiend, whats next - recipes you've created yourself?    ;D

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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2009, 11:05:45 AM »
For those unaware that progressive rock is still flourishing, (if not promoted by the US music industry,) you can peruse this site:
http://www.progarchives.com/
There are a lot of samples to be heard there, as well.  Both old, that you may never have heard of, and new bands are listed there.  Some were old and then later reformed, to play again.

Be warned, prog ranges from new age style, almost elevator music, to pretty hard rock metal thrash, with folk, jazz, and classical bits added, and everything in between.  Part of the progressive-ness, if you will, is that some artist somewhere will try to mix styles and sounds in a new and different way.  It isn't always personally palatable.  But, rather amazing what can work out, and certainly interesting.  There are some modern bands that openly attempt to mimic the artists of the 70's, yet still sound fresh and interesting, bringing new technology and recording techniques into the process. 

You can hear far more variety from internet radio sites such as :  http://auralmoon.com.  And for more "edgier" prog leanings, http://www.morow.com/.

You might also try :
http://www.last.fm/listen/globaltags/Progressive%20rock#pane=webRadioPlayer&station=%2Flisten%2Fglobaltags%2FProgressive%20rock

...Just to listen to something you simply won't hear on the usual airwaves.

FYI, upperlake, I create new "recipes" almost every time I cook, which is daily since I retired.   Standing joke is that if you like what I made to eat, enjoy the moment, 'cause you'll never have it again.  I forget the "recipe" shortly after I make it.  It'll be just as good next time.  But, it won't taste exactly the same.  I don't measure ingredients, beyond "some" of this, a "Dash" of these, and "bunch" of that, and a "goodly" amount of whatever is found in the kitchen, or garden.
The only recipes that must be measured are bakery type goods, like cakes, where ratios must be closely controlled.

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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2009, 12:39:02 PM »
 ;D ;D Thnx Renaissance man

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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2009, 12:50:13 PM »
;D ;D Thnx Renaissance man
Another good Prog group!
My favorite RENAISSANCE albums are "Ashes Are Burning" and "Turn of the Cards".
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=603

I also like "Live At Carnegie Hall".  But, not too crazy about the way too long bass solo that's in it.  Probably was interesting/enjoyable to watch live.  But, to commit to recording repetition just isn't appropriate, I think. IMO

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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2009, 01:39:40 PM »
Was Todd Rundgren's Utopia progressive rock? How do you categorize folks like Adrian Belew, Gentle Giant, and Frank Zappa?

 

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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2009, 02:47:00 PM »
Was Todd Rundgren's Utopia progressive rock? How do you categorize folks like Adrian Belew, Gentle Giant, and Frank Zappa?

Yup.  All progressive rock, if you ask me.  See:
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#definition

There are actually several sub genres' within the Progressive rock theme.
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#genre

From your selections: I'd guess you enjoy "eclectic prog"?  I like that too, though it is not a mainstay in my play library.  It's mostly neo-prog, or symphonic prog, or jazz/rock fusion, even some post-metal prog, in regular repeat play.

I also like smooth jazz, flamenco, some blues.  I appreciate music that takes some prowess to create.  Something melodic, usually.  Though I have enjoyable examples of mechanized chaos mixed in that work pretty well together in a contrast setting.  Artists can do some pretty amazing things with talent.

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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2009, 02:58:48 PM »
I don't know, trying to put Zappa into any label is pretty tough.
The guy was all over the place musically.

I knew our cook in school had some music taste when he was rocking Zappa on the radio.
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2009, 09:10:51 PM »
Was Todd Rundgren's Utopia progressive rock? How do you categorize folks like Adrian Belew, Gentle Giant, and Frank Zappa?

Yup.  All progressive rock, if you ask me.  See:
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#definition

There are actually several sub genres' within the Progressive rock theme.
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#genre

From your selections: I'd guess you enjoy "eclectic prog"?  I like that too, though it is not a mainstay in my play library.  It's mostly neo-prog, or symphonic prog, or jazz/rock fusion, even some post-metal prog, in regular repeat play.

I also like smooth jazz, flamenco, some blues.  I appreciate music that takes some prowess to create.  Something melodic, usually.  Though I have enjoyable examples of mechanized chaos mixed in that work pretty well together in a contrast setting.  Artists can do some pretty amazing things with talent.

Cheers,

Thanks for all the links, I kind of understood what comprised the genre, but now I understand a bit better!
I really like a wide variety of music, although I am fairly guitar-centric. I don't listen to anything with much regularity nowaday, but am always excited when I hear something that I like but haven't heard before.