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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2009, 04:03:11 PM »
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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #51 on: April 29, 2009, 08:12:45 PM »
Hey Caave...any ord on how the talk went?

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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2009, 08:48:06 PM »
I am beat..

Dude it didn't happen today. The finger injury that spurred this thread was still hurting today and I couldn't even come close to making a fist so I went to the doc, it was broken. Spent most of the day in the urgent care at the VA. By the time I got back to the shop the boss was gone already, golfing.

I appreciate all the feedback guys. It feels good to know some one gives a crap. It's hard to stay motivated, really.

I am so tired. I will report back tomorrow. Good night.
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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2009, 09:50:24 PM »
If he cans you in retaliation or you quit for unsafe conditions you may be eligible for unemployment.  I am not positive on this but it would be worth looking into as something to fall back on.  Losing a job is not the end of the world and it's alot easier to replace than limbs or appendages.  I was laid off when the small company I worked for for 25 years was bought up by a large corporation in 2002.  It was devastating at the time.  I have been self-employed ever since and it turned out to be a good thing.

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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2009, 11:25:08 PM »
I am beat..

Dude it didn't happen today. The finger injury that spurred this thread was still hurting today and I couldn't even come close to making a fist so I went to the doc, it was broken. Spent most of the day in the urgent care at the VA. By the time I got back to the shop the boss was gone already, golfing.

I appreciate all the feedback guys. It feels good to know some one gives a crap. It's hard to stay motivated, really.

I am so tired. I will report back tomorrow. Good night.
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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2009, 11:36:43 PM »
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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #56 on: April 30, 2009, 03:53:46 AM »
Wow, just read thru this whole thread.  Keep up the good work, Caave!!  I'm pullin' for ya.

I've spend my whole 20-year career in the electric power industry, and things are so safety-oriented that I'm afraid I can't even relate to the issues you're facing.  OSHA would have a field day with this creep!  Even Workman's Comp would insist on him paying, not you, for your on-the-job injuries.


And, as mentioned, DOCUMENT everything.  Even if it's just in your own handwriting, HAVE EXACT DATES of everything!!


Good luck with your fight.

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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #57 on: April 30, 2009, 05:00:46 AM »
I'd squeal like a pig.

And document everything.

Having both hands and standing in the unemployment line is a lot better than having 1 hand and being unemployable.
 What would your boss do in the same situation? He can't golf with one hand and it would really affect his well being. If it was his hand in question, the situation would be very different to him.

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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2009, 06:29:29 AM »
This came in my email this morning. I blanked out the names for obvious reasons. We do very heavy manufacturing. Even though I work as a professional, in the event I go down into the plant, I better have all my safety gear on, or I will be put on th street for two days. Two years ago I could have walked around with flip flops.  The HQ in Japan got a report on injuries and they flipped.  They also got a big rate increase for their Workmans Compensation Insurance.


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Our President Mr. xxxxxi is extremely concerned about xxxx Safety Practice and Record in 2009. Frankly, the concern for employee safety is not where it should be. We must correct our behavior immediately and make safety a priority. Mr. xxxxxxi has declared May 2009- xxxxx SAFETY AWARENESS MONTH.
 
Within the month of May there will be aggressive and frequent tours and inspections by Executive and Senior Management of the xxxxx Facility and sites. Managers will be held accountable for the behavior of personnel under their direction and in their work areas.
 
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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #59 on: April 30, 2009, 08:48:28 AM »
Considering the kind of person your boss is, what's gonna happen when you get seriously injured by his faulty equipment?  You think he's gonna keep you on if you can't perform to his standards?

My bet is he would "let you go" and hire on another warm body in a millisecond.  Then you're out of a job, seriously injured AND unemployable.

It really sucks and it's easier said than done, but it's your responsibility to yourself and to the next guy who would inevitably take your place to fix the problem.

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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #60 on: April 30, 2009, 10:37:58 AM »
Like everyone said Caave, document, take pictures when people are not around and make sure YOU are clean (you know what I mean).

Sometimes you have to stand up for your principles even if it means getting mowed down in the process. You lose a part of dignity and self worth if you don't.

Take this clown to task.

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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #61 on: April 30, 2009, 01:06:26 PM »
Well finally got a chance to read through this whole thread, and for starters from one machinist to another...
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That's truly crap what your going through, and being the only machinist there you would think you have more pull with what you want, so your boss must really be exactly what you stated. We only have three of us here, one is my older brother, the other is one of my three bosses( I call them my three dads  :P ) he is kewl and we all band together, we have to or it is what you described.
It has been a long road for us but we hold a high standard for safety, our machining is different from your though because we run gantry based machines so we cut flat sheets of material out, this can range from typical .063" 5052 or 3003 aluminum all the way up to 1in thick plexiglas that will be 7ft x 10 ft so it can get very dangerous here for us. They neve set standards for material handleing so we took it upon ourselves to set our own rules and basicly told the "suits" that this is how it is and that's how we are doing it. It is truly nice when it goes that way.
I can tell you that if you get fired for all this that you need to add that you were in a hostile work invironment and that will help you and your fight, also with the osha thing its not always good unless you have a few people calling in for them to take the fishing hook the first time. Other wise they take it as a disgruntal employee, they do take note of it though and if more calls come in they start to take action and suprise visits.

Like the other gentlemen in here that are with you, you should make sure and check your options, with all the green stuff going on here in the US there will be plenty of machining jobs coming soon, and on that note world wide we are having a shortage in machinists, there are on average 50,000 machinists retiring every year and only about 15,000 coming into the work force so you can do the math and see we definetly need more of us.
If you have a local tech school hit em up they almost all have machining classes for cheap to get started in, that will help you get your foot in the door to the next best thing. Take pics of the stuff you make also, helps in a resume.
Remember parts are parts don't jepoardize your digits for them, maybe you can get that lathe to fire off some goods at your bosses junk in the trunk as he goes by, then you can say " see this thing is a flyin' piece of doo doo! I need some maintenence over here!"

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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #62 on: April 30, 2009, 02:25:45 PM »
You could go super avante garde and be a STEAMPUNK Pirate. As a machinest, you can prolly build an awesome steam powered arm after you lose your real one. A steam powered eyepatch? #$%*, I dunno.

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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #63 on: April 30, 2009, 02:27:35 PM »
Mlinder, you have issues!

Guessing their is some sort of pirate fetish going on here...lol

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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #64 on: April 30, 2009, 02:38:53 PM »
The only issue I have is that he's not going to become a pirate. I'm extrememly disspointed.
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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #65 on: April 30, 2009, 06:11:43 PM »
Caveman, hope you get it all sorted out..
 If it makes you feel better I split a knuckle open on the lathe this week too, not real bad though..

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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #66 on: May 01, 2009, 09:19:59 PM »
Cavemann, good luck.
One place I worked at I got frostbite on all my fingers and toes. Employer said, "....tough, we told you it was cold in the freezer section, ergo your problem...."
Most employers treat workers like thow away items nowadays.

You need to stand up for yourself, bu t before confronting your employer I would definitely contact an employment attorney. Because if you don't follow the intent of the law exactly, you are screwed and out of a job.

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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #67 on: May 04, 2009, 11:51:04 AM »
Okay I did some research and approached the boss today.

I went to a hospital, into the billing office, and told them I was doing some research for a presentation for school.

I asked them theoretically how much it would cost me if I were to lop off a finger at work.

Estimated at about 10k w/o insurance.

Holy crap.

I told this to the boss. He agreed that the shop needs to be upgraded. I asked him why he let it get to this point, his excuse was I figure you guys would have brought it up if it was that big of a deal. I told him that was not true because I had mentioned it before, and all he could say is well it'll get fixed now won't it?

I hate the attitude, but I won so screw it.

I was scared, and that is for real. I had a back up plan of course. Go on unemployment, sue him for wages I had been cheated out of, and called osha. Luckily I did not have to do any of that.

Now it's on me to take care of getting the repairs and updated equipment. So I'm off to Northern Tool!

Thanks for all the support and advice guys, I appreciate it big time.
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« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2009, 11:57:10 AM »
Way to stand up for your health and well being..bravo
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« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2009, 12:04:36 PM »
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Re: Serious problem with work.
« Reply #70 on: May 04, 2009, 12:16:09 PM »
Way to go Caave!! Glad to hear that it went well...

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« Reply #71 on: May 04, 2009, 01:05:23 PM »
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« Reply #72 on: May 04, 2009, 01:58:40 PM »
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« Reply #73 on: May 07, 2009, 02:33:10 PM »
Remember:  Blindness is forever.  An eye patch may look cool, but what's underneath is a world with no depth perception.  Safety first.
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