Author Topic: Which hits first, the hammer or the feather? (Read 8082 times)

sangyo soichiro · « **Reply #100 on:** May 20, 2009, 07:05:27 PM »

Quote from: Markcb750 on May 20, 2009, 06:33:13 PM

soichiro:

sorry subtlety is lost on me.

Do you think that seven posts back you clarified the original question?

I only see a statement that a small number is not zero. Not an answer or a clarification to a stubborn old engineer.

Life does not give us clear-cut problems. The trick to every problem is to recognize it and reduce it one we can solve.

Markcb750 · « **Reply #101 on:** May 20, 2009, 07:06:35 PM »

Quote from: burmashave on May 20, 2009, 07:02:35 PM

Ahem. Mark, I don't think this is so much the Dead Parrot sketch as it is the Anne Elk (Miss.) sketch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAYDiPizDIs

Ahem;

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Markcb750 · « **Reply #102 on:** May 20, 2009, 07:08:10 PM »

Quote from: soichiro on May 20, 2009, 07:05:27 PM

Quote from: Markcb750 on May 20, 2009, 06:33:13 PM
soichiro:

sorry subtlety is lost on me.

Do you think that seven posts back you clarified the original question?

I only see a statement that a small number is not zero. Not an answer or a clarification to a stubborn old engineer.

Life does not give us clear-cut problems. The trick to every problem is to recognize it and reduce it one we can solve.

understanding and acknowledging what is significant is an important life skill also.

sangyo soichiro · « **Reply #103 on:** May 20, 2009, 07:17:17 PM »

Quote from: soichiro on May 20, 2009, 05:31:56 PM

MarkCB~~744~~743,
You do realize that you will not be tested on this...?

I'm not grading, but if I were, I'd grade not on the answer, but on how the problem was treated. And students that keep complaining about their grade and saying it is unfair are annoying.

And... if you have two real numbers, they are either equal, or one is greater than the other.

Or you could just use a larger hammer, which, oddly, is a solution for a lot of other problems....

...

Markcb750 · « **Reply #104 on:** May 20, 2009, 07:29:00 PM »

As I said...Ahem:

don't worry soichiro,

I am off to taunt the French.

Have a good night.

sangyo soichiro · « **Reply #105 on:** May 20, 2009, 07:34:52 PM »

Quote from: Markcb750 on May 20, 2009, 07:29:00 PM

As I said...Ahem:

don't worry soichiro,

I am off to taunt the French.

Have a good night.

Make sure to take a few 'Trojan points' with you.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #106 on:** May 21, 2009, 05:26:13 PM »

OK who's going to do the "chicken and the egg" thread......

Mick

mlinder · « **Reply #107 on:** May 21, 2009, 05:29:06 PM »

You REALLY don't want to start the chicken and egg argument, do you? I mean, the answer is so goddamned painfully obvious, but people don't understand it 9 times out of 10. I mean, #$%*...

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #108 on:** May 21, 2009, 05:32:41 PM »

Sorry Mlinder, its just that i have a big bag of popcorn that needs a reason to be eaten....

Mick

mlinder · « **Reply #109 on:** May 21, 2009, 05:36:18 PM »

If the question is answered correctly, in this case, you'd only have time for about 2 pieces of popcorn.

333 · « **Reply #110 on:** May 21, 2009, 05:53:26 PM »

Which came first? A "how big of a tire can fit on my bike" thread, or an oil thread?

mlinder · « **Reply #111 on:** May 21, 2009, 07:57:56 PM »

Seriously asking? Not an oil thread, not a tire thread. The answer is absolute and simple.
People somehow forget that the chicken and the egg are the same goddamned thing.
When we talk about an egg, we are merely talking about a chicken in it's embryonic state. The first chicken was just a chicken. When it was an egg, and when it was a chick, and when it was a chicken, and when it was dinner. That same #$%*ing chicken was all of those. You cant say either came first, because those two words are merely words for different stages of the same entity.

my78k · « **Reply #112 on:** May 21, 2009, 08:53:23 PM »

But then who laid the egg that later became a chicken and then later became dinner??

Dennis

mlinder · « **Reply #113 on:** May 21, 2009, 10:31:06 PM »

Quote from: my78k on May 21, 2009, 08:53:23 PM

But then who laid the egg that later became a chicken and then later became dinner??

Dennis

Are you asking seriously?
Do I need to explain genetics?
I mean, this isnt s chicken and egg question anymore.

mystic_1 · « **Reply #114 on:** May 22, 2009, 12:02:12 AM »

According to the theory of evolution, the first true chicken egg was laid by something that was not quite a chicken.

mystic_1

my78k · « **Reply #115 on:** May 22, 2009, 05:14:57 AM »

EVOLUTION?

Blasphemer!!!

burmashave · « **Reply #116 on:** May 22, 2009, 06:04:13 AM »

I've never met a thread so much in search of a controversy. Come on, guys, we can do better.

mlinder · « **Reply #117 on:** May 22, 2009, 06:30:10 AM »

Quote from: mystic_1 on May 22, 2009, 12:02:12 AM

According to the theory of evolution, the first true chicken egg was laid by something that was not quite a chicken.

mystic_1

That's what I said. But you are still supporting the idea that the egg and the chicken are somehow separate entities.
What you should say is

Quote

According to the theory of evolution, the first true chicken was the offspring something that was not quite a chicken.

And then, in another book that explains what a chicken is, thered be some chapters about the various stages of life of said chicken. Embryonic, in an egg, would be part of that.

These two ussues have very little to do with each other.

I can't understand how this is lost on people.

DammitDan · « **Reply #118 on:** May 22, 2009, 08:26:16 AM »

Quote from: burmashave on May 22, 2009, 06:04:13 AM

I've never met a thread so much in search of a controversy. Come on, guys, we can do better.

You're right.

Quote from: mlinder on May 22, 2009, 06:30:10 AM

And then, in another book that explains what a chicken is, thered be some chapters about the various stages of life of said chicken. Embryonic, in an egg, would be part of that.

This is making the assumption that an embryonic egg can be considered a chicken. I've always understood that the fetal chicken embryo does not actually become a "chicken" until it reaches the 3rd trimester.

mlinder · « **Reply #119 on:** May 22, 2009, 08:51:53 AM »

Do a DNA test as an embryo, and as an adult chicken. It'll come up as the same chicken.

But that's all semantics anyway. If we are honestly calling the egg a separate entity from the chicken, then obviously the egg came first, because that egg became the first chicken upon hatching from the egg.
Fact remains, though, the egg and the chicken are the same goddamned thing.

burmashave · « **Reply #120 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:09:07 AM »

Listen, when I order my breakfast, I want eggs sunny side up and runny. I'd pass if I got a chicken sunny side up and runny. That ain't no semantics; that's breakfast. ;-)

mlinder · « **Reply #121 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:14:36 AM »

I could make you a chicken and egg breakfast burrito that would kick your ass. I know, not a very kosher meal, and it does seem a bit disrespectful to the animals involved, but hey...

Markcb750 · « **Reply #122 on:** May 22, 2009, 02:17:11 PM »

James Taylor is the best balladeer, songwriter ever.

mlinder · « **Reply #123 on:** May 22, 2009, 02:56:11 PM »

Quote from: Markcb750 on May 22, 2009, 02:17:11 PM

James Taylor is the best balladeer, songwriter ever.

....k

sangyo soichiro · « **Reply #124 on:** May 22, 2009, 03:08:08 PM »

Quote from: Markcb750 on May 22, 2009, 02:17:11 PM

James Taylor is the best balladeer, songwriter ever.

Buck up little cowboy. I know it's tough stuff. Just hang in there.

And look, I'll even throw in some gay smile faces so you know I'm only kidding.

$:-\$

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