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CB 750 Oil Filter Can
« on: November 04, 2005, 08:17:57 PM »
 Hi again.
I have managed to get a chrome steel brand new oil filter cover and 17mm bolt.
I have been told from unreliable sources that it may have been off an origional 69 CB 750
Any takers on that infomation.?
Dave / Australia.

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Re: CB 750 Oil Filter Can
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2005, 03:09:04 AM »
hi dave, i have seen them on ebay but not sure how old they are , :-\ if anyone knows terry also in oz will know cheers mick.
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Re: CB 750 Oil Filter Can
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2005, 03:13:49 AM »
I know the earliest ones were smooth and round, minus the fins. I'm not sure, but I don't think they were chromed steel. Often what you see on eBay are some that have been modified to appear like the originals, that is they machine the fins off, leaving a round cylinder look.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2005, 03:53:10 AM »
  I think the 69's were aluminum and the reason the fins were added was the smooth ones would crack easy.  Dannie
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Re: CB 750 Oil Filter Can
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2005, 03:56:57 AM »
i think the oil filter dave has got hold of is an after market part it will have the oil filter and a small threaded adapter to screw to the engine  ;)   mick.
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Re: CB 750 Oil Filter Can
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2005, 04:39:02 AM »
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the fins were added was the smooth ones would crack easy

I believe they also added some webbing around the interior of the bolt hole because over-tightening tended to crack them around the bolt hole.
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Re: CB 750 Oil Filter Can
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2005, 08:07:44 PM »
if you don't want , i'll take it ;)

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Re: CB 750 Oil Filter Can
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2005, 09:13:01 PM »
Honda didn't put a chrome steel oil filter cover on any SOHC4, so  it's an aftermarket item Dave, Cheers, Terry. ;D 
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Re: CB 750 Oil Filter Can
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2005, 03:55:15 PM »
 ;D ;)Hi Hondaites.
OK Terry I have a feeling you may be right> again!!

I still think it looks great with all that shiny chrome all over it.
The thing is not for sale unless you have a motza bag of loot.

PS.
My front rim is now real chrome and will look great with the SS spokes in it.
Hamilton chrome in Newcastle NSW Australia  did a great job.
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2005, 06:53:25 PM »
I saw a nice alloy "after market" filter can from the 1970's, and thought I might machine one up out of billet? I'll do one and you guys can tell me if you think it'd be popular? The one on Ebay was cast and a little "rough" in appearance, but went for over 70 bucks! Hmmmnnn, the price of "being different", ha ha! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: CB 750 Oil Filter Can
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2005, 07:07:31 PM »
I'm listening but I hope yours is cheaper!! ;D
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Re: CB 750 Oil Filter Can
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2005, 09:16:45 PM »
We'll have to see mate, that 6061 T6 alloy billet isn't cheap, unlike a lot of sohc-4 guys, ha ha! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: CB 750 Oil Filter Can
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2005, 10:51:21 PM »
I saw a nice alloy "after market" filter can from the 1970's, and thought I might machine one up out of billet? I'll do one and you guys can tell me if you think it'd be popular?


We'll have to see mate, that 6061 T6 alloy billet isn't cheap, unlike a lot of sohc-4 guys, ha ha! Cheers, Terry. ;D

Machine a filter can from scratch? WOW!!
Seems like wasting a lot of high grade aluminum.
How many pounds of expensive chips do you think it will make while machining one filter can?

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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2005, 02:31:00 AM »
Well you're right of course Dennis, and that's where the expense comes in. I may, however, see if I can't use the billet piece as a "Master" and have some cast at a local foundry that apparently will do small batches of "One Off's", which hopefully will reduce the price considerably.

I suppose I could chrome plate them too, but considering our "frugal" nature,paint or powdercoat is a more viable option? Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: CB 750 Oil Filter Can
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2005, 06:18:00 AM »
terry,if i want billet id just as soon buy one of your spin on adapters,and yes its still on my list of things to do.
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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2005, 08:19:03 AM »

 I may, however, see if I can't use the billet piece as a "Master" and have some cast at a local foundry that apparently will do small batches of "One Off's", which hopefully will reduce the price considerably.

I suppose I could chrome plate them too, but considering our "frugal" nature,paint or powdercoat is a more viable option? Cheers, Terry. ;D
 

Terry,
Have you ever done any casting work before this?

I know that you have many talents, but I was just wondering if you ever got into aluminum casting previously.

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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2005, 03:16:58 PM »
G'Day Dennis,, no mate, I'm a casting "Virgin", but one of my staff has a friend who owns a small foundry, and has cast many alloy items in the past, including anything from pistons (mmmmnnnn.........) to wheels for custom cars, so I think that the quality should be good. I'll talk to him before I start machining that big chunk of bar Dennis, but I don't think that it'll be a major problem? Cheers, "Many Talented" Terry. ;D
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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2005, 04:06:45 PM »
G'Day Dennis,, no mate, I'm a casting "Virgin", but one of my staff has a friend who owns a small foundry, and has cast many alloy items in the past, including anything from pistons (mmmmnnnn.........) to wheels for custom cars, so I think that the quality should be good. I'll talk to him before I start machining that big chunk of bar Dennis, .......

I suspected that perhaps this was an area in which you possibly had not previously ventured. I have done a little casting work many years ago in another lifetime .....
anyway...... there are two things that I was going to mention to you.

First as you already said, talk to the foundry guys and see how it is done. You will have to allow for shrinkage, finish machining and things of that nature.
And second, you probably don't want to waste your very expensive aluminum stock on your "master" which is called a pattern in casting terminology. See how "your" foundry wants to do it. Not sure what they are doing now, but I can't see why it would have changed much. It will probably depend on the casting that they use. Back in the day, we usually used wood - with a good surface finish of course.

It's a good project, you'll enjoy it.
Have fun,
Dennis