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another weird winker question?
« on: June 02, 2009, 11:07:59 AM »
On my 73 cb 750 when i got the bike it had no turn signals, so i wrangled some up and after connecting them, when i turn on the switch they stay lit, no flashing. Is that a winker relay problem or something else? thanks for any input.
i checked both poles on the winker relay and both are hot?

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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2009, 11:56:12 AM »
Got a full battery?

Both front and back lights lit?

bigtrucker

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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2009, 12:13:23 PM »
full battery and the front and back both stay lit for whichever side you indicate with the switch.

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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2009, 12:18:22 PM »
If all connections are good and clean, grounds are good, then I would replace the flasher unit next.
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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2009, 12:21:41 PM »
Thats what i was thinking, i'm not sure of a way to test the relay. But since the poles are both hot it makes me think it's stuck in the open position. thanks

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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2009, 12:22:00 PM »
Sorry for the thread hijack, but I think this might be the next logical question...How the hell does the blinker relay come out? Mine seems to have two wires soldered in there and won't budge...do I just yank it out? Twist it?
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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2009, 12:23:43 PM »
Do they wink when the engine is running/revving?  If no, then time for a new flasher.  Either a 2 or 3 prong electronic number as they are less sensitive to batt voltage.
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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2009, 12:24:21 PM »
mine has two slide on connections, flat blade style , just to the rear of the battery.

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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2009, 12:26:26 PM »
haven't tryed with the bike running. I figured they should work on battery voltage alone. I'll try it thxs.

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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2009, 12:35:05 PM »
Mine flash faster when the engine's RPMs are higher.  They flash really slow at idle.  Sometimes I see the bulb lit but not flashing and wonder if I've got a burnt bulb... but then it finally flashes.


Go out and ride it, and when you're cruising at about 50, turn on the flasher and see if it flashes.  Just don't get in an accident while staring at the light.
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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2009, 12:39:56 PM »
should it operate that way?  What would cause a condition like that?

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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2009, 12:43:24 PM »
I don't know if it should work that way, but that's how mine work.  It takes a little getting used to.  In fact, while I'm waiting for it to blink at a stop light, I usually jerk my head toward the direction I'm going to turn so that the other drivers are aware which way I'm going.  Either that, of they think I've got a disease.   

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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2009, 12:50:06 PM »
Nice, hand signals have had to work for me. I prefer the YOUR #1 middle finger, point in the direction of turn to get  their attention. LOL ;D

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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2009, 12:55:37 PM »
Yeah, I imagine people saying,
Guy a. "Hey, look at that cool bike!"
Guy b. "Yeah, that bike's cool, but what's wrong with the guy on it?  Why's his head jerking like that?"
Guy c. "He's prolly got one of those rap songs stuck in his head...."


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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2009, 01:03:55 PM »
I found it is real important to be sure you have the correct bulb size in there.  You may have seen my post where the right would blink fine, but the left was a lot slower.  Turned out the PO had the wrong bulb watt size in there.  My K1 calls for #1073.  The side with those was fine.  The left side had a #1141 in the back and that slowed it up quite a bit causing more resistance in the circuit.  So check your bulbs to be sure they are correct.
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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2009, 01:16:16 PM »
Thanks i'll check that out too. I wonder if the wattage could be so different from bulb to bulb that it won't blink at all? It's raining here so i'll have to wait to check.

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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2009, 06:57:48 PM »
We're talking 30+ year old parts built on 30+ year old technology based heavily on Ohm's Law to operate properly.  A modern flasher unit, using voltage-insensitive solid state timers and not on the heat warping of a bi-metal reed switch will compensate.
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Re: another weird winker question?
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2009, 09:52:08 PM »
just  so everyone knows how it got fixed, i went to the salvage yard and got a different winker. Installed it and the only one that would flash was the right rear. Proper grounds seem to be critical. cleaned all grounds and nothing would work. keep in mind that i am using proper watt bulbs and battery is fully charged.  i decided to go to the auto parts store and try a  different flasher. i got a round two prong flasher for 3.99 and what do you know. they work. i eliminated the running lights, and had to ground the fronts to the forks because the po turned the headlight bucket into a butcher shop but grounding by a separate wire really seems to help the way they function. hope this might help.