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Re: halogen headlights
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2005, 05:20:19 AM »
unruly one,im not sure what coils you have but if they are 3 ohm i have 3 ohm coils on my bike and have experienced no problems at all.

Yeah, I thought I'd be fine as well.  A few days before I made the switch, I completely redid the ignition wiring (heavy guage, thick insulation, wrapped in electrical tape & stuffed inside silicon tube) & it ran fine except for the 1 intermittent missing coil that I've been trying to fix. When I did the switch, it ran fine for about 10-15 minutes, then started misfiring, backfiring, everyway firing except for in the cylinders - I was even getting flames shooting out the tailpipe.  Since I totally messed up my first set of coils & wires, I put new wire & caps on the new ones, charged the battery & cleaned my plugs.  When I fired her up, I readjusted the regulator voltage to be approx 14.5V @ 4500rpm. It did the exact same thing as with the old wires & caps which leads me to think there's something going on with the coils.  I'm taking a few days off & leaving the beast in my work parking lot to think about how she's treating me while I try to come up with my new "master" plan. 

Dennis, I appreciate the offer to take the light off my hands, but I'd like to go ahead & hold on to it for now.  Hopefully over the winter I'll have another form of transportation & will be able to do a complete rebuild.  Once I go through everything a little better & re-re-re clean all of my wires & connectors, it may turn out that I'll be able to use it.

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Re: halogen headlights
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2005, 10:07:35 AM »

Dennis, I appreciate the offer to take the light off my hands, but I'd like to go ahead & hold on to it for now. .......... Once I go through everything ......... it may turn out that I'll be able to use it.



As I said earlier, I don't see why it should cause a problem as long as you carefully manage your electrical loads. Check the bulb for the correct wattage.
I thought that you had given up on it, which is why I made the offer, I'm still kind of looking for one or two more. I even run a halogen on my RD350. They also are known for very marginal charging systems.

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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2005, 11:49:24 AM »
I mounted 2 cute and cool little drive lights that are halogen. no charge problem and they light up everything good.VIBRATION KILLS THEM!! i have replace the bulbs twice. this time I'm going to rubber mount them. if this fails I'm going back to old school ,standard and reliable(just not as cool damit)lol ;D ::)

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Re: halogen headlights
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2005, 12:55:25 PM »
VIBRATION???,not on a honda.
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2005, 02:03:06 PM »
ms backroads...wfo :o ;D
plus I think I get extra vibs from short pipes!
And my tires need balanced :o

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Re: halogen headlights
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2005, 08:06:34 AM »
I had the same worry about the increased Wattage on my halogen headlamp.
My solution was to replace the 4 BA9 illumination lamps in the Speedo and Tacho with LEDs.
The original bulbs were 3.4W and the very bright LEDs are rated at 0.24W (20mA)
So I lost 10W.
My only quibble is that the white light is a bit harsh so maybe I should have gone for an amber bulb.

I also replaced the tai/stopl light which gives me another 4W to play with but I'm not completely convinced about it.
Directly behind the light is fine - maybe brighter - but going slightly off axis gives a lower glow.
This is in spite of choosing a bulb with LEDs pointing sideways as well as behind.
The stop light does illuminate slightly quicker than the normal filament - giving the dodo behind you more time to notice.

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Re: halogen headlights
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2005, 08:15:07 AM »
Rod,
Did you change any wiring when you put the halogen bulb in? I saw Halogen 60w bulbs in Halfords, but was worried because the original was only 45w.
Jim.

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Re: halogen headlights
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2005, 11:29:58 AM »
I rewired the entire bike because it was a mess. Even rebuilt the mini loom with new pins but managed to re-use the old plastic connector shells
Iwas getting 9 or 10v by the time the power travelled through the rusty contacts and dodgy bodged sections.

I used 1mm2 modern thinwall cable, which is rated at 16.5 amps, for most of the loom, including the lights.
As 60W is 5A I reckoned it was well within limits.
I used 20A wire for the main power feeds to the fusebox just for the re-assurance of chunky wiring.

If the original wiring and connectors had been sound I would have used them.
Even with the halogen I think they would happily cope.

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Re: halogen headlights
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2005, 07:18:38 PM »
I emailed several people who actually bought one of the headlights you’ve referenced from Rice Paddy and asked them this question:
“I thinking of buying the sealed beam to H-4 conversion light like you just bought (11/3).
Can you tell me how well the light works?”

Here are the responses I received:
-   Hi Scott, I don't know how well it works as I haven't installed mine yet. It seems to be of good quality and the bulb that came with it is a standard 55/60 halogen. I expect it will work fine.
-   I'm sorry, I can't really tell you anything since I never installed
and tried it out before I tore down the engine for a rebuild. I did
see comparison photos of various bulbs and the stock sealed
beam. The differences were pretty dramatic. I'm confident there
will be a significant improvement. The other reason I switched
was the simple fact that if my headlight were to burn out I can
get a new bulb at any auto parts store. I think the change is a
good one, especially for the money. It's pretty reasonable. If
you make the change drop me a line and let me know what you
think of the new bulb. By the way, the outer lens is plastic.
-   Scott,It is definitely worth the 19$ plus shipping.It is much brighter than the stock sealed beam.Mine had the low beam burned out(I only had high beam)-and the conversion unit is still brighter(not only that but the Kawa shop wanted 95$ for the replacement sealed beam!!!!!!!!!)In all fairness to Autozone,I didn't check to see what they wanted for a replacement car sealed beam unit,but one thing you'll notice(I have a Kawasaki '78 KZ750B3),the 3-prong plug is different (smaller)on the motorcycle than what a car's is.The only thing I notice about it is the highbeam is not a whole bunch brighter and doesn't cast light up much higher/farther out,but it makes a wider area lit up than the low beam.I took my bike on a lit up road and it was plenty good,then I took her on a dark country road without lights,and still did good on hills and twisties-going a pretty good rate(60-70mph).If you want brighter still though,you can prolly get an 80/100 watter-I did this on a 84 GPz750 that I had.That's the beauty of going with the H-4 conversion---they have different strengths of light,you just buy a different bulb and plug 'er in!I recommend!!!The replacement process is real simple too-you basically use the same parts(inner and outer ring,etc.),you're just replacing the sealed beam unit with a glass lense that has a spring clip on the back of it,and accepts the H-4 bulb.Don't forget the bulb grease and you're ready to go!!!Glad to help out Scott!Let me know how that works out for you! Tom Discipio PS The Rice Paddy dudes are okay too.I used Paypal,and I bet I got the unit in 3-4 days.
-   I've used them in ever older bike I have ever owned, which is many, and the really make a difference. They should put out a brighter light than stack sealed beam and a wider flatter pattern. Of course the newer bikes with factory installed halogens do not need replacing. If you have one of them, you can find a brighter element to install.
-   Hi Scotti, It worked fine! Just be careful taking apart headlight assembly and putting back together. bye Roy
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Sorry for the long post but I thought this was useful information.
Why worry about tomorrow for tomorrow has enough troubles of it's own.

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Re: halogen headlights
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2005, 05:47:42 AM »
Why worry about tomorrow for tomorrow has enough troubles of it's own.

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Re: halogen headlights
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2005, 05:52:00 AM »
Probably not if the 650 is like the 500/550 and has the three screw mount tabs on the ring that fit to the headlamp shell.
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« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2005, 01:34:07 PM »
i just looked up the cibie lights you mentioned.  what model # do you have on your bike, and wattage bulb are you using? also, is the lens glass or plastic?  any battery/charging problems?
thanks,
apor

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Re: halogen headlights
« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2005, 07:19:47 PM »
biffta,
what model bike did you fit with the light? i think my '76 550 would take the 7", but not sure without checking.  did you have to modify the wire harness, or did the existing plug work ok?

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« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2005, 06:01:26 AM »
so the 400f uses the 5" bulb, eh (maybe i can get that one for my cj360t)?  i noticed on you pics that your headlight has an asymetrical pattern on the front... i suppose this will give you more vertical light coverage to your left.  is this annoying, useful, or barely noticeable?  i saw during my internet travels that cibie makes lights with the opposite pattern for those of us who drive on the correct  ;D side of the road- i guess that'll be the one i buy.
thanks for the help, pics, and whatnot.
apor

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« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2005, 08:04:53 AM »
I`m used ligth too a Volvo 164 It`s a  7", 60/55w hade to drill hol  to the parkbulb  On my 750 K7

It`s wase the cheepest H4 headlamp shell I cud find (12>14 US$).

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Re: halogen headlights
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2005, 11:13:34 AM »
what is this "park-bulb" i keep hearing and reading about?  egil, you're using the cibie 7" on your 750? is it a perfect fit?

I’m glad they make a good Cibie lamp for your part of the world, after all driving on the wrong side of the road is dangerous enough without having a poor Honda headlight on the bike in the dark also. ;D
;D yeah, isn't that the truth...  though in my case, it's usually the SUVs that are on both sides of the road...   :-\

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« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2005, 01:58:17 PM »
I've posted before that we used to fit an 18W bulb in the "parking" slot and use that as a daylight driving light.

That part of the lamp gives a very diffuse pattern (unlike driving on dip beam).
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Re: halogen headlights
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2005, 07:08:22 AM »
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Hmm, since I almost never ride at night, but put mine on during the day while riding, wonder if they make one (xenon) as a replacement for the stock 7" rounds most of usl have.. then they would really see me. 

Well, it seems they do, but boy are they pricey!  :o

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« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2005, 12:54:03 PM »
About $200 for a "conversion kit" and it assumes you have a set-up with a unit and halogen bulb as opposed to a sealed beam.
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« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2005, 12:54:38 PM »
The one kit I have seen is just over a $1000 U.S.
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« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2005, 01:10:07 PM »
Here's one site I found, has an interesting little demo. Not being Mr. Electrical, not sure what all would be involved. Maybe someone could fill me in.

http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/hidxenon.html
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« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2005, 01:40:31 PM »
Again, not much on electrics, but was also concerned about the reference to needing a 20A fuse. They claim 35% less power draw, but looks like the start-up load is significant and since my 750 only has a single 15A fuse  ::)
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« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2005, 01:56:46 PM »
They are expensive. They give me fits on oncoming cars at night. I have always been a bit more sensitive to bright light than most folks it seems and at night, when your pupils are dilated in low light, the suckers really tick me off. However, they are very noticeable in the daylight but cause me no pain. That was my primary interest in them.
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« Reply #48 on: November 21, 2005, 07:20:40 AM »
The Xenon lamp conversion  demand that you have light washer and high regulator , it possible for modern New bikes  not on  our classic old.

All brand new car have`it  It is what you cal car  fashions ,for safety :)

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« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2005, 09:41:09 AM »
Egil,

Sorry, but didn't understand
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