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cb500 electronic ignition problem
« on: June 07, 2009, 08:03:19 AM »
I was fixing another thing when I came across this interesting thing. I tried to start the bike after another rebuild. Needless to say, it didn't start so I checked the plugs for spark. Got a nice electric shock when I turned the power OFF. When I took a closer look, the plug sparks everytime I turn the power off. This is the only way I get a spark out of the plug. What's up with this thing? Any thoughts? I'm using a piranha electronic ignition, and it worked fine before... ???

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Re: cb500 electronic ignition problem
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2009, 08:11:58 AM »
I'm not familiar with Piranha: what is the triggering mechanism? Hall Effect magnetic? Pickup coil? Optical?

The spark at OFF indicates the electronic amplifier part is passing current to the coil(s). It sounds like a triggering issue. Is the pickup set connected to the amplifier?
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Re: cb500 electronic ignition problem
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2009, 08:31:40 AM »
It's an infrared led and a transistor which conducts when the hole on the wheel passes the led. I didn't touch the system in any way during the rebuild..

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Re: cb500 electronic ignition problem
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2009, 08:57:23 AM »
Well, maybe try to manually trigger the event? This will tell you if the amplifier is still working. If it is shorted, the coils will spark at power-off just as if they were being fired.

The collector of the transistor will go to the amplifier and the emitter to ground. When the transistor is ON, the coil is charged by the amp like when the points are closed: when going OFF, it triggers the spark. So, find the wire that is connected to the transistor collector, touch it to the emitter-side circuit, then release it. When releasing, it should make a coil spark. If you have good eyes and tiny fingers, you might be able to do this right at the transistor on the points plate: just jumper collector-emitter, then open the jumper.

Obviously, on the Fours there are two of these...usually these systems have 3 wires to the points plate unless it also carries its own ground reference, in which case there may be a fourth wire for that.
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