Topic: finaly named the gang.

[Terry in Australia]

Don't think we will make any patches. as for the shenanigans of outlaw biker gangs, there are ways of dealing with that crowd.
Being a military man You may know what I am talking about.

Good idea mate, leave those patches alone, anyway, T shirts are nice too. There are a lot of ex military folk in the outlaw clubs (indeed that's how the 'Angels started) and they are generally well disciplined, well organised professional groups, with seemingly infinite resources of money, equipment and personnel. Best left alone, from my experience. Cheers, Terry. 

[Raul CB750K1]

How come a military man become an outlaw biker? Do they get tired of serving one side of the law that they want to see how is living in the other side?

Raul

[Mark M]

Raul,
You havn't been paying attention in 'Outlaw Bikers 101'
The first outlaw gangs (or 1%'s)  were formed by pissed off returning servicemen.

[Jim Shea]

I spoke to a wanna bee HD bloke the other day, he was riding a Yamaha 650 Virago or some such. He had chaps, waistcoat, finger less gloves, the whole catastrophy!! anyway, he was covered in patches, except on the back, he said it upsets the HA, so be aware..

[Raul CB750K1]

So, do you mean you can't wear a patch in your back just because a bunch of #$%*s doesn't want you to? Is that your "land of the free"? 

Raul

[mrblasty]

You make a good point Raul, I do exercise every freedom I have and I'll kick some ass if someone wants to #$%* with it.
Yeah "The land of the free" Thats the biggest load going right now.
It blows me away when non conformist/outlaws/self described patriots give You load of grief because of something You wear or You have a point of view that doesn't align with their own, enforcing codes and "laws" that have no place.
Land of the hypocrite is more like it.
Freedom gets talked about an awful lot but show them freedom and the majority get scared of it and want to take it away from You.
Life sentences, liberty for those that can afford it and the right to buy #$%* at walmart is the new battle cry for too many americans these days, soon we will be owned again if things do not change.
Sorry for the rant.


Signed

mrblasty,
possumologist.

[dusterdude]

no sweat blasty,im afraid you make a lot of sense

[Uncle Ernie]

Things sure have changed from the rogues who started this country. Our basic freedom is to conform or get thumped in the head. Freedom from thumping. Asking questions of our politicians is UnAmerican.  Have to stop typing now- I hear my front door breaking... 

[Terry in Australia]

So, do you mean you can't wear a patch in your back just because a bunch of #$%*s doesn't want you to? Is that your "land of the free"? 
Raul

It's got nothing to do with being in the "Land of the Free" Raul, I've never been a member of an outlaw club (too much like hard work scowling all day long and saying bad things about Jap bikes, although I do like the idea of breaking in young club groupies and drinking Bourbon until I collapse in a puddle of my own vomit) but I have a few friends who still are, or were, "Outlaws" and they seem to enjoy it.

A couple of Hells Angels saved me (and my CB750F) from one mother of a beating when I was just a baby faced lad of 18, so I've always had some respect for them, and where they sit in the motorcycle hierachy. They're a bit like spiders, we are a little frightened of them but realise that they have a purpose in life, and that is to get rid of all the flies. Of course I'm referring to all the "Outlaw Wannabe's" who think that Harley ownership entitles them to start their own outlaw clubs, like the "Hells Accountants", or "Bank-Deed-o's", etc.

The big outlaw clubs regulate the outlaw population, and while this might have more to do with maintaining market share in their "business" ventures, it also takes a lot of pressure off police. In my opinion, they pretty much keep to themselves, and don't cause the "civilian" population too much to be concerned about. Sure, every now and then an argument will lead to a massacre, but statistically, you've got more chance of being murdered by a postal worker, than an outlaw biker, ha ha! Cheers, Terry.      

[Raul CB750K1]

The only thing I say is why you can't wear a patch in your back if you want to? Does this mean that I can form a mob and beat everybody who wears shirts we don't like?

Well, I guess it must be very dissapointing for them, that when they created an image and attitude to oppose the "stablishment", the rich part of the society, instead of getting scared of them, buy their bikes and imitate their rituals. It's like in my teenage, when I left my long-time-gone hair grow long. Part of the fun was to upset my parents. If my father would have said "Wow, that's cool, I'm gonna let my hair grow too" probably the fun would have been gone.




Raul

[Terry in Australia]

Hmmmnnn, I'm not sure that's entirely correct either mate, although I did use the "rich Harley owner" stereotype as an example of "wannabe" outlaw clubs, antiestablishmentarianism (yes it's a real word) is not necessarily the preserve of the rich.

I think that they probably are disappointed in the amount of people out there who try to imitate them, but then again, "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery", so maybe the hells Angels are flattered by the "Hells Accountants" attempts? Ha ha, Cheers, Terry.

[Mark M]

I'm just watching out for the vigilante Postie. Do you think if I up the average weight of my ebay purchases I might wear him down enough for me to take him on?
 

[Terry in Australia]

I'm just watching out for the vigilante Postie. Do you think if I up the average weight of my ebay purchases I might wear him down enough for me to take him on?

Well if he's delivering all your stuff mark, you should be looking after him! That reminds me, I should leave a 6 pack of VB out for my "Postie", he's been doing a stirling job, the only box I'm getting nervous about is from Canada, but I think I've been screwed (again) by another crooked Canuk! Cheers, Terry.