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Re: Mo the 80 CB650 Custom:Reading this thread will make you RICH!!!!
« Reply #225 on: September 10, 2009, 01:00:13 PM »
your better half is wise indeed. :) Good luck with your next coat!
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« Reply #226 on: September 20, 2009, 01:53:42 PM »
Finished up the carb control cable hanger yesterday, just needs a bit of paint since it's made out of steel that was braized together. Buber reminded me that you can use radiator hose to make carb boots in a pinch so I went down to the local hose supplier, gave them my old hose, told them what it was for and let them suggest what to use. The gentleman came back with this industrial looking marine fuel/exhaust hose that  I have to say I'm not ashamed to have on the bike, looks pretty cool I think :D This stuff has metal wire reinforcement so I won't get the boot pulsation some have written about. I had some difficulty getting the airbox side to mount up properly since the 650 stock carbs are about 10mm larger in diameter on that side than the 750 carbs I'm using. Soos suggested using smaller clamps, and after some digging I found some that were for the engine side of a cb500 (prime example of why you don't throw away spare parts from old bikes!) After some serious wrestling with the boots I was able to clamp them on, but the way they wrinkle up has me concerned that they will either leak, or else when they get hard, crack. Fortunately I have spares from my parts bike, so I have time to decide. If i actually get around to painting the carb cable hanger I might get some radiator tube and make a ring that the boots can clamp onto.

I also had to make an adaptor for the fuel line since the line from the petcock on the 650 is bigger, and only one, whereas the nipples on the carb for the 750 were smaller and 2. I'll take some pics of that, it was interesting to make.

Plans this week are, get the wiring harness sorted out tonight along with the controls (hopefully). Tomorrow I'm taking a half day from work, and I'm going to try and get the headlight bucket mount fabbed up and welded, then get as much of this put back together as I can. I'm hoping to get enough momentum that I can get the bike mostly back together, at least with the wheels and such mounted.

I've decided to do the saddlebags and trunk a bit differently than I had originally planned. I'm going to paint the lids to match the tank and fenders, but the bottoms will be black with the grey and black stripe. I just don't have enough of the candy and gunmetal to do everything, but if I do it this way I should now have enough to do everything. But I need to have the bike mostly reassembled to fab this all up. I'm just going to make the saddlebag hangers out of .250" flat bar stock, it's cheap but the saddlebags would fail before these suckers would. This and painting the saddlebags is going to be hopefully tues-fri work. I'm racing the weather now since all the reducer I have won't work properly below 80F. Fortunately the clear coat is more forgiving. I'm going to hopefully spray the clear on all the parts wednesday, let it cure for a week, cut and polish and install. At least thats the plans, we'll see how it all goes.

I'll post pics in a bit.

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« Reply #227 on: September 21, 2009, 12:23:39 AM »
I'm actually riding without any form of insurance on my bike, it costs about $400 a year to do comprehensive and 3rd party isn't worth doing as when bike meets car/truck/horse/fence/tree bike always loses. ;D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #228 on: September 21, 2009, 04:03:23 AM »
Hush, around here if you are caught riding without insurance it isn't pretty. Not sure how much the fines are, but they are pretty steep. I'm not really sure what insurance I will go with, right now I don't have the money to reg and insure the bike, so it's a moot point  :( Hopefully I'll be able to find the money when the time comes, but we'll see.

Adapting the GT550 controls to the 650 harness is proving to be more complex than I originally thought it would be, right now I have more wires going in than coming out  ??? Fortunately I have a second harness I can look at, I'll get it figured out. Aahhhh the joys of customizing.

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« Reply #229 on: September 21, 2009, 01:14:58 PM »
Funny. Here, our bikes are the cheapest things we have to insure...
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« Reply #230 on: September 21, 2009, 02:30:08 PM »
I can get comprehensive for $250ish a year, and thats with an understanded value of like $2500 or so, or I can get liability only for about $160.

Well, got the wiring figured out I think, only will know for sure once I go to fire her up.

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« Reply #231 on: September 23, 2009, 07:03:15 AM »
Time for some pictures!!!

As I was pulling the swingarm for the third time cause I had forgotten to put a little bolt back on, I chipped the paint with a hammer!!!  >:( I'm hoping I'll be able to touch it up decently but we'll see. I honestly think a few years down the road when I have a second bike to ride and a bit of money I'll pull the frame and have it and the swingarm powdercoated. I'm just not good at painting frames, everything else turned out beautifully, but the frame not so much.

Here's the fuel line adaptor I made. I'm honestly thinking of making a different one later out of the same connectors but using a block of brass and must machining my own T, it'll actually be more like an F.

The cable hanger, hopefully it will work. I'm probably going to have to custom cut the control cables to get this to fit properly. Still I'm proud of it.

And the carb boots, pretty cool look I think. I just hope they'll seal.

And the overall bike. I've decided to help reduce weight and make her more modern I'm just going to do the mono shock in the back ;)

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« Reply #232 on: September 23, 2009, 08:17:44 AM »
maybe I'm lost here, but why the fuel line adapter?
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« Reply #233 on: September 23, 2009, 08:37:11 AM »
The carbs are from a 73 750 and it has that silly dual line in. It also has smaller diameter inlets so I had to go from a bigger hose to a smaller one.

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« Reply #234 on: September 23, 2009, 08:57:38 AM »
good progress I'm expecting a video of the test fire soon manjisann ;D

You could always make a hanger for the carbs and go with pods if the airbox doesn't work out.
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« Reply #235 on: September 23, 2009, 09:10:04 AM »
Super build man!!! I absolutely love the paint colour and your ingenuity... some good inspiration to get me back in the garage.

Cheers!
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« Reply #236 on: September 23, 2009, 09:11:21 AM »
Hush, around here if you are caught riding without insurance it isn't pretty. Not sure how much the fines are, but they are pretty steep.

Not to mention the fact that some jagoff will probably still sue you for chipping their paint with your teeth, so liability coverage is a good idea anyway.

My insurance is about $13 a month, which is totally doable.

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« Reply #237 on: September 23, 2009, 09:47:08 AM »
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You could always make a hanger for the carbs and go with pods if the airbox doesn't work out.

HAH, that marine tubing is so dang rigid it supports the carbs on its own. I was actually thinking it would work real well for that if I ever do a bobber or cafe.

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good progress I'm expecting a video of the test fire soon manjisann  ;D

Hmmm, wonder if I can find any scooters to set off when I do  ;)

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Super build man!!! I absolutely love the paint colour and your ingenuity... some good inspiration to get me back in the garage.

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Thanks, appreciate the compliments! If you have any questions let me know and I'll answer them the best I can.

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Hush, around here if you are caught riding without insurance it isn't pretty. Not sure how much the fines are, but they are pretty steep.

Not to mention the fact that some jagoff will probably still sue you for chipping their paint with your teeth, so liability coverage is a good idea anyway.

My insurance is about $13 a month, which is totally doable.

Too true. I don't know about the rest of the world, but the lawyers have taken over this country and EVERYTHING is a lawsuit waiting to happen, it's sickening. Ahh well, at least we have motorcycles to keep us calm.... sorta

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« Reply #238 on: September 23, 2009, 10:00:54 AM »
"Ah master, Igor watches the Franken bike come to life har har har har"(swings from rafters, lightening lights the sky outside) "It lives it lives"! ;D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #239 on: September 23, 2009, 10:02:19 AM »
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"Ah master, Igor watches the Franken bike come to life har har har har"(swings from rafters, lightening lights the sky outside) "It lives it lives"!

Uhh, wrong thread mate, someone already took that name, I'd accept Sheepcycle though :D

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« Reply #240 on: September 23, 2009, 10:04:42 AM »
How about "BaaaaaaaaaaaaaahnStormer" or "Mutton Chopper"?

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« Reply #241 on: September 23, 2009, 12:08:23 PM »
Hahaha, MuttonChopper, that'd be hilarious if I was building a chopper, do a somewhat sheep theme.

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« Reply #242 on: September 24, 2009, 03:01:25 AM »
Hey, step away from the "copper chopper" and no one needs to get hurt! >:(

Actually I've been watching some old VHS tapes while running on my treadmill and Van Helsing was one of the movies I'm catching up on. ;D
I think the thing I most like about motorcycling is the speed at which my brain must process information at to avoid the numb skulls who are eating pies, playing the ukulele, applying make-up etc in the comfort of their airconditioned armchairs as they make random attempts to kill me!!!!!!!

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« Reply #243 on: September 24, 2009, 05:35:47 AM »
What's a "VHS?"  ;)

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« Reply #244 on: September 24, 2009, 07:10:54 AM »
Video Home System

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« Reply #245 on: September 24, 2009, 10:09:29 AM »
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Wow, I knew Hush was a Kiwi, and failed Diety, but a dinosaur, geez Hush  :P


Ok, unfortunately the batteries in my camera died and I don't have any handy so no pics. Instead I will attempt to use words to draw the pictures in you mind (bet it comes out as stick figures or scribbles   ;) )

I'm burned out so I've decided to put the trunk and saddlebags on hold for now. This means I'll probably have to buy more paint and filler and set the paint booth back up at some later date, but right now I just don't have the drive to do a proper job. This is kinda a bummer but what do ya do. Ugh the thought off all the wasted paint and supplies turns my stomach, but oh well.

On the bright side, I got the headlight bucket ears done and they don't look too bad. The weather is supposed to be warm the next couple days so I'm planning on wirewheeling them off and spraying them black, then all thats left is to patch that giant a$$ chip on the frame, clear the main parts, polish and finish reassembly. I'm hoping to clear it all on saturday, then I'll wait and polish it on wednesday assuming the weather is decent. It will be a relief to have all this done and get the garage cleared out and tidied up.

Found out that the left GS550 control is too fat to sit behing the clutch perch like it should, so I'm having to move it to the right of the perch. The bummer is it will look a bit goofy, but theres no helping it at the moment. I'm gonna look into finding the GS550 clutch perch and see if I can just use that, but haven't checked it yet.

The bummer is I've had to spend the money I had saved up to reg and insure Mo, so for the forseeable future I won't be riding. I may not be able to ride until March or April when the weather warms up again. Oh well, at least I'll have a good looking bike going into that season!!

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« Reply #246 on: September 24, 2009, 10:26:40 AM »
I've found that, if you're burned, just walk away for a while.  You're not making this for a customer and the only time-table you're on is that of wanting to ride.  Working because you feel you have to leads to one of two things:

1.) Never wanted to do another project.
2.) Doing work you'll be unhappy with later.

Remember - this is supposed to be fun.  If you need some time off, take it - we'll still be here and reading when you get back.

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« Reply #247 on: September 24, 2009, 10:03:46 PM »
Hey Brandon, sometimes I just close the shed and walk away.
Works good that way, as I just get soooo damn frustraited by some fiddly thing I'm doing and before I throw bits of bike across the shed, I walk out, get a bourbon and coke from the fridge and go sit in the spa pool for an hour. ;D
Relax, enjoy the stuff you are doing, if you aren't enjoying it, throw a dust sheet over it and take your lady out for tea.  ;)
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« Reply #248 on: September 25, 2009, 04:29:45 AM »
There is wisdom in walking away when it stops being fun. I'm still enjoying the build, but I need to get it done for the season. The deal was I can use the garage but mom wants to park her car in it once the snow starts to fly, which is a few months away, but it's getting cold enough I can't paint every day. The long and short of it is I need to get her in running/riding condition and ride her. I'll worry about the saddle bags next year or the year after. It's time to bring this leg of the Official build to a close, and begin the never ending tuning puttering stage  ;D And I may have figured out a way to come up with the money to get her reg'd and insured so I can ride. Hooray!!!

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« Reply #249 on: September 25, 2009, 08:55:31 AM »
Hey Manji, I know what you mean.  A simple fork oil change and handlebar change took me the better part of 8h yesterday, coupled with grease everywhere (throttle sleeve, mostly, and clutch lever) and hand grip cement all over the place (and blisters from the damn grippy rubber on my hands, since that stuff means BUSINESS and is hard as hell to get ON the bars...) blah blah.  oO;

It ceased to be fun early on but it hadda get done so I could ride to school today... so yeah.  I understand deathmarch bike work. ;) good luck
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