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Offline Burnboy

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advancing timing
« on: June 20, 2009, 10:00:46 PM »
I am am sure that TDC is correct, to advance the timing do I just rotate the points plate x amount of degrees?  If so do I rotate it clockwise?
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Re: advancing timing
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2009, 10:25:23 PM »
Wait now.!, Whoa!, your timing is set on the 'F' ( F for fire ) mark , the TDC mark is for other uses....the points need to open exactly at the F mark....rotating the points plate clock=ign. more retarded, rotating the plate counter-clockwise =.
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Re: advancing timing
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2009, 11:58:49 PM »
yes it fires on f. Other posts I have read say that before you mess with timing to make sure that tdc is as marked, I guess so you dont throw thinks more out of wack.

So loosen points plates and rotate counter clockwise to advance timing right?
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Re: advancing timing
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2009, 12:12:29 AM »
Well, if I could be as sure about anything in life that was as sure of the fact that the Top Dead Center mark on our ol' sohc 4 bikes is dead accurate, I would be a happy man !!
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Re: advancing timing
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2009, 01:51:27 AM »
Quick way, start bike, let it idle to warm up, rotate either way to get best speed from motor then back it of a nats whisker......retighten holding screws, not scientific but will work in a pinch.
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Re: advancing timing
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2009, 07:15:46 AM »
The important mark is the advance mark. The advancer unit is relatively crudely made, and wear will increase the overall advance angle. Too much advance will cause preignition and can destroy the pistons. You can experiment with ignition advance to get more performance, the stock mark allows a safety margin for poor fuel and the like. Regardless, to set the ignition properly and repeatably for consistent performance, set the idle ("F") mark with a timing light (and best with a dwell meter as well) to get the two points plates adjusted properly 180 degrees apart and with the correct gaps (or dwell). Then rev the engine and set the fully advanced spark timing on the advance timing marks, clockwise from the "F" mark but not labelled. If you watch the marks with a timing light you'll see the advancer plate "turn" between 1500 and 3000 RPM or so, when it stops that turning you are at maximum advance and can set the timing. If your points plate fits properly you will be able to adjust the timing without changing the 180 degree relationship or the dwell of either points set.
Once the advanced timing is set, the idle timing may not be on the "F" mark. Don't depair, this is rather insignificant: the bike will still idle OK over a wide timing range and nothing will be harmed. Set the advance timing properly as the ignition timing will be at full advance during 99.99% of your actual riding (unless you choose to lug the engine).