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Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« on: June 23, 2009, 12:07:16 PM »
Seems like people are going crazy lately... lots of these types of threads lately.

On Sunday I went out with my girlfriend for a walk in my hometown.  There's a really peaceful (...well, normally it's peaceful...) nature trail near a stream in my town.  We parked in the parking lot and had walked to one end and was making our way back to the car.  We passed some teenagers and a middle-aged couple walking a dog.  Everyone's friendly.  So far, so good.

Just after we passed the couple with the dog, four young kids (18-20-ish) came by.  One girl and three guys.  They had been tubing down the stream.  I nodded hello to them, not all at the same time because they weren't exactly walking together.  The girl was in front, followed by a boy, and then the two others about 20 feet farther back.  When I saw the last two boys it was instantly clear that they were very drunk.  They could barely walk straight.  I'd be surprised if they were legal drinking age.

Everything was cool until the last boy passed.  When he saw me and my girlfriend, he raised his arms in the air in that "Victory! Hey! We just won the superbowl" kind of way and started yelling "Party! party! party!...."  (If I wasn't sure before, that confirmed my suspicion that they were drunk.)

We passed without incident, but the boy took offense that I "didn't say anything."  Well... if he hadn't been shouting "Party! party, party" like a fool, he might have heard me say hello...

My girlfriend and I kept walking, and we got out of view because the trail curves around, but we could hear that fool shouting that he wanted to '#$%* me up' and carrying on like the court jester.  The girl he was with was trying to calm him down, and I don't know what the other two boys were doing, but they were at least quiet, whatever they were doing.

That fool kept going and going, so I stopped, turned around, and yelled back, "I said 'hello'.  Are you going to be okay, buddy?"

For a split second, that fool kind of acted like he made a mistake not hearing me and that it was his bad.  I don't recall what exactly I heard, but it sounded like he was calming down.  But only for a split second.

Then that clown started in again.  Saying stuff like they should #$%* me up and #$%* my girlfriend.  Well, gee... I guess we can't all be blessed with brains.

Anyway, I was fine until my girlfriend got scared and said she never wanted to come back.  That's when I got pissed.  But we calmly kept walking and left those fools to themselves.



I was never afraid that I'd get beat up.  If they had been sober, that would have been another story - I might have #$%* my pants.  But they were so drunk I wouldn't have gotten seriously hurt.  In fact, I really think they would have been separated from their teeth.  I would've dispatched the loudmouth kid in a hurry, in case his friends decided to dance too.  If it came to me having to turn around, there would have been no more talking.  Pitbulls don't talk before the fight.


If I could do over, I'm not sure I wouldn't have turned around and either got the #$%* kicked out of me, or kicked the #$%* out of three drunk punks.  I'm pretty pissed when I think about it.


Has anything like this ever happened to you?  What would you have done? 


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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2009, 12:11:50 PM »
Walk away when you can, beat them down so hard they can't get up and continue fighting when you can't.
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2009, 12:17:14 PM »
Or you could take them home and keep them in the cellar.
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2009, 12:17:27 PM »
just punch everyone you see in the face, immediately, to avoid situations like that altogether.  
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2009, 12:23:32 PM »
I forgot to mention that they were all in flip-flops - another reason why I wasn't too afraid.  They would have came out of those flip-flops pretty quick, and dancing around on rocks in your bare feet is no picnic.

Maybe I should have stole their flip-flops and ran like hell... screaming 'party party party'....
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2009, 12:24:39 PM »
Or you could have asked them a (theoretical) physics question, then left them to argue, and quietly meandered off. :)
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2009, 12:28:20 PM »
Or you could have asked them a (theoretical) physics question, then left them to argue, and quietly meandered off. :)

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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2009, 01:38:10 PM »
Walk! If you don't and you turn around and flatten them, who goes to court charged with assault, now if your life or your girl friends life is threatened crush them any way you can and take the hassles.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2009, 02:25:31 PM »
I'd just keep walking. Unless you thought you were in some serious danger of not being able to escape, what would have getting into a fight have got you? They have three friends (witnesses) who could have said you threaten him....etc. I have been in several situations like this, some in my line of work. One I will share with you.

I was walking out of Home Depot one day, I was entering the crosswalk to the parking lot when a car (about 10 yards from where I was at) slammed on his brakes, gave me the finger and gunned his car. I guess he thought I was taking his "right of way" that he didn't have. I froze like a deer in the headlights. He smashed his brakes and the front bumper of his car tap'd my leg. I screamed something at him and proceeded towards my car, when he jumped out of the car after me. I kept backing up, and backing up, and yelling for him to stop. I probally step back 15-20 steps. I told him to not make me defend myself and get back in his car. He gave me a snarl and ran to his car and speed off. This man has no idea how close he came to death. While I was backing up I had my right hand under my jacket on my leagally carried .45 auto. I know if I would had no other option I would have shot him, but the point is that I did have other options. The lesson I learned from this is that if you can escape with a small hit to your pride, do it. Your life and you future is more important than being macho.

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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2009, 03:41:18 PM »
Well, you would have had to kill the girl too, and hide the bodies in the woods. You can't leave any witnesses you know. Its better you walked away.

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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2009, 05:38:02 PM »
Me being the hot head I am as soon as I heard him say he should "f#ck me up" I would have went back and egged them on untill they did attack then crush them.

You are a better man than me, I have no temper at all. I think you did the right thing, though if it was a place I enjoy going to and the girlfriend said she was scared to go there, I would have probably went and messed them up.
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2009, 05:44:16 PM »
Or you could take them home and keep them in the cellar.
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2009, 05:46:49 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2009, 05:50:44 PM »
Has anything like this ever happened to you?

I had some skanky "punk" ask me for a smoke and I told her to piss off, she had earlier in the evening been screwing around with my daughter's mom who was pregnant at the time, she had gone and fetched her boyfriend and friends and they came out talking trash and I didn't react till one shook his fist at my daughter's mom, I lost it instantly. It ended badly for everyone involved except my daughter's mom.
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2009, 05:56:19 PM »
I wish all problems could be solved with a baseball bat with nails driven through it. :P  People worry me all the time.  I'd have been seriously concerned, being a chick. Then again, I might be able to take 'em, too.
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2009, 07:45:49 PM »
Mention the conveyor belt again, and I will come and find you and kick your ass.  In flip flops, no less. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2009, 08:20:23 PM »
If I was in your situation: with my lady, I would have walked away too.  No sense getting into some crap that would require me to defend myself and my lady.  If I were alone,  that's a different story.  Ass whoppin's are free, and being a major distributor I would have given them all two for the price of one.  Being drunk doesn't give anyone the right to be an a-hole, no matter how young or old they are.  You did the right thing.   ;)
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2009, 08:26:05 PM »
Mention the conveyor belt again, and I will come and find you and kick your ass.  In flip flops, no less. ;D ;D ;D

Is that the one the airplane won't take off of....or will it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2009, 08:45:59 PM »


      Sometimes, it's a bit hard to do, but I think you did the right thing also. No sense in taking a chance of your girl getting hurt AND yet, I can clearly understand why you'd like to have busted them too! Clearly, they were drunken idiots and not worth your time. It IS a shame that you can't go on an outting without having an experience like that. :-\


                                 
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2009, 08:48:01 PM »
It seems like there are plenty of #$%*s to go around out there......not much has changed.....been that way as far back as I can remember. Everyone that has posted to this has made good points. Just remember.....if you go off half cocked and taking people on like that.....you really don't know if they are packing or not. Probably better just to steer clear even IF they appear to be easy to take out. If your woman feels uneasy going back to that location (sounds like a place set up for normal,peace loving people to go)....I might have tried to get a plate # or something and report it. I am by no means a snitch but I hate to see brain dead people take over places like that. What is with all this gangsta sh!T anyways???? Is it COOL to intimidate people behind the cover of a gang? The word pussy comes to mind. I can remember way more than once where some jack-off got in my face around his friends and I called him on it. I would think after walking away with a bloody nose.....you would feel a bit stupid and maybe learn a lesson in life!!!!
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2009, 03:38:23 AM »
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2009, 10:37:52 AM »
I was walking out of Home Depot one day, I was entering the crosswalk to the parking lot when a car (about 10 yards from where I was at) slammed on his brakes, gave me the finger and gunned his car. I guess he thought I was taking his "right of way" that he didn't have. I froze like a deer in the headlights. He smashed his brakes and the front bumper of his car tap'd my leg. I screamed something at him and proceeded towards my car, when he jumped out of the car after me. I kept backing up, and backing up, and yelling for him to stop. I probally step back 15-20 steps. I told him to not make me defend myself and get back in his car. He gave me a snarl and ran to his car and speed off. This man has no idea how close he came to death. While I was backing up I had my right hand under my jacket on my leagally carried .45 auto. I know if I would had no other option I would have shot him, but the point is that I did have other options. The lesson I learned from this is that if you can escape with a small hit to your pride, do it. Your life and you future is more important than being macho.


That is frightening.  Yikes!  It could have ruined both lives for sure. 
Thanks for sharing that.


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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2009, 10:39:39 AM »
On further consideration of the situation I have come to the conclusion you should have destroyed their faces, and here is why:

A.) They are under age and drunk, they would not have gone to the cops.

B.) The next poor sucker that runs into those fools may have a worse outcome.

C.) It is a sure thing that this will happen again as there was no negative result to this kid acting like a dip $h!t.

So in sumation, I think the next time you see that kid you should take it to his face real good and then when he is on the brink of unconsciencness, remind him to bite his tounge.
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2009, 11:37:59 AM »
Mention the conveyor belt again, and I will come and find you and kick your ass.  In flip flops, no less. ;D ;D ;D

Is that the one the airplane won't take off of....or will it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2009, 06:36:43 PM »
when I used to be an assistant self-defense teacher one
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2009, 07:04:40 PM »
First thing I would have done when I heard him talk #$%* is enabled the recording feature on my phone... then kept walking. There is no reason to risk you lady friend unless she is into that. If you like that area, think for the most part its still safe and would still like to walk it I suggest getting your conceal and carry permit and a gun. Then its a matter of practicing with your weapon and taking classes to handle it properly. The goal is still to walk away in the situation but if they ever decide to persue you there is no reason to chance it.

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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2009, 08:04:02 PM »
Walk away when you can, beat them down so hard they can't get up and continue fighting when you can't.

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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2009, 11:23:22 PM »
Ass whoppin's are free, and being a major distributor I would have given them all two for the price of one. 

So how are things going over there at ass whoopin INC?

I have only delt with a situation like this a couple times...first time was a pair of drunks who mistook me for a full blood native (I am metis and look like a full blood when tanned so i can see why.) Initially i didnt care what they said and pretty much ignored it...then they made the mistake of making the first move...first guy got a broken arm and jaw for his trouble..he came at me with a bottle from behind..spotted it in the reflection of the car door window just as i was opening it..moved to the side..caught him with a right hook and slammed the door on his forearm hard enough to hear it break...second one got all balsy at that when he seen his buddy was down..so he had to try to defend his bud...yea that didnt go so well...kick to the knee...pull the door open this time catching him in the head as he went down...Game over....funny enough cops pulled up at the last part of it so it wasnt hard to explain the mess...

Second situation was a lil more recent...a drunk native was hassling me for cash....once again ignored it...then he made the error of grabbing my left shoulder...im pretty sure he did not know what hit him because i spun on my heel and gave him a right cross before even really thinking on it...

Point being is you never know just what you are dealing with....could be a push over...or it could be an armed person..or someone trained in martial arts...so when you can..walk...when you cant...be ready to lay down an ass kickin...
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2009, 11:47:27 PM »
I posted a while back about the girl that kept goading my sister on, wanting to fight. Just as all you ol'timers are suggesting, she let it go as far as it could until the girl made the move, then my sister beat her down. Being a bully is one thing, defending yourself and pounding the hell out of 'em is another. I guarantee the girl won't mess with her again, and neither will anyone else in the school.
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Re: Crazy kids - what would you have done?
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2009, 10:22:52 AM »
Ass whoppin's are free, and being a major distributor I would have given them all two for the price of one. 

So how are things going over there at ass whoopin INC?

I have only delt with a situation like this a couple times...first time was a pair of drunks who mistook me for a full blood native (I am metis and look like a full blood when tanned so i can see why.) Initially i didnt care what they said and pretty much ignored it...then they made the mistake of making the first move...first guy got a broken arm and jaw for his trouble..he came at me with a bottle from behind..spotted it in the reflection of the car door window just as i was opening it..moved to the side..caught him with a right hook and slammed the door on his forearm hard enough to hear it break...second one got all balsy at that when he seen his buddy was down..so he had to try to defend his bud...yea that didnt go so well...kick to the knee...pull the door open this time catching him in the head as he went down...Game over....funny enough cops pulled up at the last part of it so it wasnt hard to explain the mess...

Second situation was a lil more recent...a drunk native was hassling me for cash....once again ignored it...then he made the error of grabbing my left shoulder...im pretty sure he did not know what hit him because i spun on my heel and gave him a right cross before even really thinking on it...

Point being is you never know just what you are dealing with....could be a push over...or it could be an armed person..or someone trained in martial arts...so when you can..walk...when you cant...be ready to lay down an ass kickin...

Your vocabulary suggests you have experience with boxing (right cross, right hook).  Another thing I like about your story is that when the time came, you didn't mess around with jibber-jabber.  Like I mentioned, if my situation had escalated, I wouldn't have talked #$%* to them.  Pitbulls don't talk.  Learn from the animals, I say.

Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
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