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US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« on: July 08, 2009, 12:59:04 AM »
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 02:18:29 AM »
There is also no constitutional amendment that prohibits murder.

Hmmmm....  ::)
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2009, 02:40:02 AM »

Never trust a guy with a moustache  8)

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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2009, 04:31:18 AM »
don't pay income tax and see what happens
eveyone i know of back in the late 90's is in jail or paid
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2009, 07:13:11 AM »
Ask Wesley Snipes about not paying income tax. ;) ;D
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2009, 08:17:59 AM »
Quote from: andy750 on July 08, 2009, 02:40:02 AM

Never trust a guy with a moustache  8)



Is that a moustache or a pornstache? 

     I have a friend who thought this way and he got away with not paying taxes for many years but eventually he felt the IRS closing in and turned himself in.  He is paying off hefty back tax bills and fines and will be for years but at least he is not in jail.  If he had waited to get caught he would be doing time.  So go ahead Pinhead give it a shot. You will eventually go down like everyone else before you that has tried this.  Not withstanding the stories you may hear about I knew someone who knew someone who had a cousin that got away with it.

And in the meantime stay off the roads, don't rely on the police or firemen for help or protection.  Don't use any public service or infrastructure since you won't be paying for it.
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 08:24:32 AM »
There was a NY DJ named Carzy Cabbie that bought this line of BS. He went to Court and they put his butt in Jail for a year and he has a hefty Tax bill to pay off to boot. If he fails to make his payments, his butt goes back in the can.
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 08:30:06 AM »
Ah yes Cabbie...never caught his show but listened to him on Stern. He wasn't exactly the brightest light but had certainly lead an interesting life  ::)

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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2009, 08:51:33 AM »
Quote from: srust58 on July 08, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
And in the meantime stay off the roads, don't rely on the police or firemen for help or protection.  Don't use any public service or infrastructure since you won't be paying for it.

Don't eat anything that was trucked in on a freeway, flown in through an airport, railed in on a train.  As a matter of fact, that guy should buy himself a boat and sail out of US waters - don't call the coast guard.
Move to Mexico.  Don't pay taxes there either (ha, ha, see how that works out).  Don't bother calling the embassy from Mexican prison.




I worked for one of these guys for a while - just a great big self-entitled, self-righteous  A**  who thought he should get every break and didn't believe in paying for any of it.  He was a four-hundred pound diabetic with a handicap sticker on his F350.  Went on and on about free markets and a return to barter systems and what all.  That guy wouldn't have lasted two days in a no government free-for-all - I'd would have butchered him up and made jerk-jerky for my family that's what he'd a been worth.  What a f***er and also... oh wait , what were we talking about again?
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2009, 08:58:38 AM »
you cant fight the the evil empire by yourself, and most of americans wont band together and speak out, so you're screwed.
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2009, 09:51:19 AM »
Do side work under the table.....at least you'll feel a little better. ;)
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2009, 09:59:40 AM »
I feel your pain pinhead, if we all take a little look back in time you will see that business was the only thing suppost to be taxxed. remember what was suppost to help us get out of the great depression....
Hmm never went away after it was suppost to..

It's way to late in the game now though :-\
Taxation is one thing, taxation without representation is another ::)

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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2009, 10:32:05 AM »
Quote from: gregimotis on July 08, 2009, 08:51:33 AM
That guy wouldn't have lasted two days in a no government free-for-all - I'd would have butchered him up and made jerk-jerky for my family that's what he'd a been worth.  What a f***er and also... oh wait , what were we talking about again?

Um....  Cannibalism?  ;D

I agree with Mike.  Not that I have ever done any side work under the table (cause that's illegal).  But I hear it is quite satisfying.
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2009, 11:10:03 AM »
Quote from: srust58 on July 08, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
Quote from: andy750 on July 08, 2009, 02:40:02 AM

Never trust a guy with a moustache  8)



Is that a moustache or a pornstache? 

     I have a friend who thought this way and he got away with not paying taxes for many years but eventually he felt the IRS closing in and turned himself in.  He is paying off hefty back tax bills and fines and will be for years but at least he is not in jail.  If he had waited to get caught he would be doing time.  So go ahead Pinhead give it a shot. You will eventually go down like everyone else before you that has tried this.  Not withstanding the stories you may hear about I knew someone who knew someone who had a cousin that got away with it.

And in the meantime stay off the roads, don't rely on the police or firemen for help or protection.  Don't use any public service or infrastructure since you won't be paying for it.

Did you watch the video? There's a process you have to go through.

Roads are paid for by fuel taxes. Nothing that you hold so dearly for your personal protection/use is paid for by income taxes...
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2009, 11:27:19 AM »
Doesn't your rather sizeable Armed Forces get funding through income tax?
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2009, 11:28:51 AM »
Bombing brown people to support the multi-national corporations, I hold that very dearly.

So my tax money is well spent, yes?  ;)
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2009, 11:50:32 AM »
Quote from: Pinhead on July 08, 2009, 11:10:03 AM
Quote from: srust58 on July 08, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
Quote from: andy750 on July 08, 2009, 02:40:02 AM

Never trust a guy with a moustache  8)



Is that a moustache or a pornstache? 

     I have a friend who thought this way and he got away with not paying taxes for many years but eventually he felt the IRS closing in and turned himself in.  He is paying off hefty back tax bills and fines and will be for years but at least he is not in jail.  If he had waited to get caught he would be doing time.  So go ahead Pinhead give it a shot. You will eventually go down like everyone else before you that has tried this.  Not withstanding the stories you may hear about I knew someone who knew someone who had a cousin that got away with it.

And in the meantime stay off the roads, don't rely on the police or firemen for help or protection.  Don't use any public service or infrastructure since you won't be paying for it.

Did you watch the video? There's a process you have to go through.

Roads are paid for by fuel taxes. Nothing that you hold so dearly for your personal protection/use is paid for by income taxes...
Yes Pinhead there is a process. Many have followed the process and more than one has gone to jail. Mr. Reick has the summed up the formula, the underground economy is huge, and it does keep goods and services moving.
I would commend that if you embark on this you do it by the numbers, and you also train in Mixed Martial Arts each day, or you be doing laundry and performing other services for some weightlifter until you are paroled. With a two income family and the Alternative Minumum Tax we pay 36% flat tax and no deductions are allowed. My wife and I pay more in tax than most people earn, we are am not at all happy about that, but we do it. 
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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2009, 01:11:58 PM »
Yep, the IRS is another thug agency just like the FBI that goes out and does what it pleases when it pleases.

And yes, there is no law on the books or in that wonderful 10,000+ page book galled the tax code that says you are required to pay taxes, it is a voluntary tax.

Like most people here I pay them because I know what they will do to you if you don't.
Look at what happened to the Brown family up in New Hampshah.
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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2009, 01:25:02 PM »
I just can't wait for the zombie apocalypse.
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2009, 02:30:56 PM »
Quote from: Industrial Cafe on July 08, 2009, 01:25:02 PM
I just can't wait for the zombie apocalypse.



I'm gonna rock the Zombie Apocalypse.  First thing we do is we kill all the insurance men.
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2009, 02:51:11 PM »
Quote from: Dukiedook on July 08, 2009, 01:11:58 PM
Yep, the IRS is another thug agency just like the FBI that goes out and does what it pleases when it pleases.

And yes, there is no law on the books or in that wonderful 10,000+ page book galled the tax code that says you are required to pay taxes, it is a voluntary tax.

Like most people here I pay them because I know what they will do to you if you don't.
Look at what happened to the Brown family up in New Hampshah.

Doesn't Title 26 of the US code "impose" an income tax on individuals?
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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2009, 03:12:27 PM »
As defined in the code the only individuals that have had an income tax "imposed" upon them are elected officials of corporations and government.
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Re: US Citizens are NOT liable to pay Income Taxes
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2009, 03:18:13 PM »
Quote from: Pinhead on July 08, 2009, 03:12:27 PM
As defined in the code the only individuals that have had an income tax "imposed" upon them are elected officials of corporations and government.

No, I think it is individuals. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/usc_sec_26_00000001----000-.html

Cornell Law has some pretty good stuff.
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2009, 03:29:09 PM »
Take a look here...

http://www.whatistaxed.com/who_is_taxed.htm

EDIT: I'll have to continue this when I get home; I don't have the time to point it out while I'm at work. :/
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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2009, 05:17:15 PM »
Quote from: Pinhead on July 08, 2009, 03:29:09 PM

EDIT: I'll have to continue this when I get home; I don't have the time to point it out while I'm at work. :/

Where do you work? The tax office?  ;)
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