Author Topic: Here it is...the clogged oil pump screen (pic) (Read 19107 times)

jhasewhite · « **Reply #25 on:** July 13, 2009, 08:09:55 pm »

holy single overhead cam batman! was the oil filtering, or just going through the bypass port? I just ordered a sump gasket- yeesh!

dpender836 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 13, 2009, 08:12:05 pm »

wow! how does that much $%*& get in a motor? was this motor left open and mice built a home, or was this set on the ground without the oil pan on it. Looks like metal bits in there, you may want to split the cases and inspect it

Johnie · « **Reply #27 on:** July 13, 2009, 08:12:45 pm »

Quote from: ateamsam on July 13, 2009, 03:06:55 pm

After looking at this pic I think I def. need to check out my screen, but how do I do that? Oh yeah, I just changed the oil too.

You have to drop the oil pan and the screen is right there.

750goes · « **Reply #28 on:** July 13, 2009, 08:27:44 pm »

good thought - flush out the oil tank as well - that's easy to do.

Maybe a recommendation - take off the oil lines from the tank to the engine and give them a flush as well - only a 10 minute job - then you know they are clean for when you run some fresh oil..

still stunned by the amount of crap in there -

did you take any pictures of the sump as well

GammaFlat · « **Reply #29 on:** July 13, 2009, 08:43:25 pm »

You know... that looks malicious. Somebody was so angry, that they "fixed" the bike by dumping debris in the oil filler.

BlackMax · « **Reply #30 on:** July 13, 2009, 08:56:49 pm »

Quote from: 750goes on July 13, 2009, 08:27:44 pm

good thought - flush out the oil tank as well - that's easy to do.

Maybe a recommendation - take off the oil lines from the tank to the engine and give them a flush as well - only a 10 minute job - then you know they are clean for when you run some fresh oil..

still stunned by the amount of crap in there -

did you take any pictures of the sump as well

Uh oh....here's where my knowledge of "hands on" and all things detail in nature make me look like a bufoon. Where is the sump?? I cleaned the pump pickup screen, replaced the oil filter and put it back together with a nice new gasket. I plan on changing the oil a few times (maybe 3) at 50, 100 and 250 mile intervals, including maybe running some solvent the first or maybe the first couple times (like marvel mystery or sea foam). Beyond that, I didn't get too crazy. I mean, if this didn't kill it, how could 1/1000 of this end up doing damage as I go forward?

At least that's the way I'm thinking. Am I thinking wrong? I just got done cutting a new gasket and bolting the pan back up $:-\$

cb350twin · « **Reply #31 on:** July 13, 2009, 10:38:59 pm »

Man, what did the old oil filter look like? and what dose the bike in general look like?

Spanner 1 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 13, 2009, 10:49:20 pm »

Deadliest Catch !... ......( or Whale Wars, take yer pick ). Or ask Mike Rowe from 'Dirtiest Jobs' WTF it is !!
Oh ,the white thing I betcha it's...yes, wait for it....... KREEM ( Tank Liner ).!

BlackMax · « **Reply #33 on:** July 13, 2009, 11:01:09 pm »

Quote from: cb350twin on July 13, 2009, 10:38:59 pm

Man, what did the old oil filter look like? and what dose the bike in general look like?

Old filter was dirty, but no visible chunks or particles. This sort of indicates that all the bad stuff was limited to the screen.

As for the bike itself....it's nice. You'd never guess.

Spanner 1 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 13, 2009, 11:07:44 pm »

Did the PO have an EXW ( Ex Wife )...!

cb350twin · « **Reply #35 on:** July 13, 2009, 11:08:34 pm »

Wow, it's making me think of dropping my pan to see whats inside.

Anyone know if I have too remove the stock pipes on a 75 CB 750 K5 to drop the pan?

seaweb11 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 13, 2009, 11:23:37 pm »

Quote from: cb350twin on July 13, 2009, 11:08:34 pm

Wow, it's making me think of dropping my pan to see whats inside.

Anyone know if I have too remove the stock pipes on a 75 CB 750 K5 to drop the pan?

You could always crawl under and have a look.

Someone needs to send BlackMax with the worst photo ever........ an SOHC T-shirt just for having the balls to post it!

WOW!

750goes · « **Reply #37 on:** July 14, 2009, 01:31:14 am »

blackmax,
the sump is what you took off to get to your oil filter screen - that thing you just made a gasket for..
did it have a lot of sediment in it as well ??

I hope you gave it a good cleanout anyway before you bolted it back on..

If anything is heavier than the oil - it will usually settle to the bottom of the pan - namely bits of white glittery metal means it could be your bike guts fallling to pieces - or bits of steel, or bits of clutch fibres..

I'm sure you would have looked at the sump pan before you put it back together ??

Johnie · « **Reply #38 on:** July 14, 2009, 05:45:39 am »

Quote from: seaweb11 on July 13, 2009, 11:23:37 pm

Quote from: cb350twin on July 13, 2009, 11:08:34 pm
Wow, it's making me think of dropping my pan to see whats inside.

Anyone know if I have too remove the stock pipes on a 75 CB 750 K5 to drop the pan?

You could always crawl under and have a look.

Someone needs to send BlackMax with the worst photo ever........ an SOHC T-shirt just for having the balls to post it!

WOW!

If you have stock pipes you should be able to get the pan off without removing them. That is the case on my KO & K1. Yours should be about the same.

wrenchmuch · « **Reply #39 on:** July 14, 2009, 05:50:02 am »

I think I'm gonna puke

Gordon · « **Reply #40 on:** July 14, 2009, 06:19:11 am »

Quote from: wrenchmuch on July 14, 2009, 05:50:02 am

I think I'm gonna puke

Just don't puke into your engine like this bike's PO obviously did.

Toxic · « **Reply #41 on:** July 14, 2009, 06:23:05 am »

Being a sick and twisted sort of guy... I want to see more pics.

lets see the inside of the sump pan and what came out of the bottom of the oil tank.

There has got to be a ton of stuff in there.

Truely amazing.

Alan F. · « **Reply #42 on:** July 14, 2009, 06:35:51 am »

+1 on flushing out the oil tank and lines seperately, maybe chase out the lines with a soft wooden dowel too as something may be lodged in there blocking oil flow too.

I remember seeing a locking oil cap somewhere on the web...anyone?

Some good detergent oil like rotella might carry any residual crud to the filter or the pump screen so you can clean it out later... just a thought.

Or maybe you'd be better off running a very high quality oil filter, the kind that gets clogged within a thousand miles...

HondaMan · « **Reply #43 on:** July 14, 2009, 07:11:25 am »

Man, that pix looks like someone hurled in the engine. Makes me feel like it, now, too.

All that silicone seal makes me nervous: if a PO sealed the crankcases with that much of it, I would be concerned that the oil passages at the alternator end and the points end of the crankshaft may be blocked from too much of that stuff. Those passages are small and the sealant, if there is too much, can ooze into the passages when reassembling. Just a thought.

Crankcases should never be sealed with silicone sealant: it should always be the latex-based stuff that you can get at most bike shops. The latex stuff, if a bit of it gets into those oil passages, will dissolve and ooze through the bearings and out into the crankcase, pass back through the pump and get trapped in the filter (or tank) later, with little or no damage anywhere. Silicone will just block the passages... $:-\$

BlackMax · « **Reply #44 on:** July 14, 2009, 07:33:36 am »

Quote from: 750goes on July 14, 2009, 01:31:14 am

blackmax,
the sump is what you took off to get to your oil filter screen - that thing you just made a gasket for..
did it have a lot of sediment in it as well ??

I hope you gave it a good cleanout anyway before you bolted it back on..

If anything is heavier than the oil - it will usually settle to the bottom of the pan - namely bits of white glittery metal means it could be your bike guts fallling to pieces - or bits of steel, or bits of clutch fibres..

I'm sure you would have looked at the sump pan before you put it back together ??

Oh, duh. sump=pan. Yea, it had a reasonable amount of gunk, but not many chunks, mostly the usual sludge. Yes, I cleaned it up. I did not remove the pump itself.....maybe silly considering I was already there, but oh well. I'm fairly comfortable that the insides will be sparkling after a few oil changes (50,100 and 250).

bistromath · « **Reply #45 on:** July 14, 2009, 09:45:13 am »

HM: Is Threebond, like 1194 for instance, latex-based?

SOHC4ever · « **Reply #46 on:** July 14, 2009, 11:46:12 am »

What tha!

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FAMILY FORUM! HOW DARE YOU POST SUCH FILTH!

Johnie · « **Reply #47 on:** July 14, 2009, 02:13:22 pm »

Quote from: BlackMax on July 14, 2009, 07:33:36 am

Quote from: 750goes on July 14, 2009, 01:31:14 am
blackmax,
the sump is what you took off to get to your oil filter screen - that thing you just made a gasket for..
did it have a lot of sediment in it as well ??

I hope you gave it a good cleanout anyway before you bolted it back on..

If anything is heavier than the oil - it will usually settle to the bottom of the pan - namely bits of white glittery metal means it could be your bike guts fallling to pieces - or bits of steel, or bits of clutch fibres..

I'm sure you would have looked at the sump pan before you put it back together ??

Oh, duh. sump=pan. Yea, it had a reasonable amount of gunk, but not many chunks, mostly the usual sludge. Yes, I cleaned it up. I did not remove the pump itself.....maybe silly considering I was already there, but oh well. I'm fairly comfortable that the insides will be sparkling after a few oil changes (50,100 and 250).

What oil are you using...I think the stock prices are going up...

BlackMax · « **Reply #48 on:** July 14, 2009, 05:53:02 pm »

To finish this up....I put everything back together (with a few snags of course). It runs fine, sounds good and the oil is recirculating into the tank. I see no leaks yet; but, I am keeping a close eye on the oil filter housing. It is looking a little juicier than I expect.

Now all that's left is to swap out the oil a few times, and see where we go. Should be ok though.

Thanks for all the help!!

TheHun · « **Reply #49 on:** July 14, 2009, 06:55:37 pm »

wow...nasty now your making me want to check that on my bike...disgusting..nasty..yuck

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Author Topic: Here it is...the clogged oil pump screen (pic) (Read 19107 times)