Author Topic: Swing Arm Rebuild  (Read 922 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline motormayhem

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Swing Arm Rebuild
« on: July 25, 2021, 09:20:42 AM »
Hello,
I'm just starting down the path again of building my CB 750 K0 back into a bike after being stored in pieces for the last 5 years. First on the list is re-doing the swing arm bushings.

I did some reading on the topic and it looks like there are a few options. My bike is the older style with the straight non-top hat bushings and the felt seal asy. The plastic thrust caps are cracked and the internal pivot sleeve is scored (see pic below....I'm assuming this isn't re-useable?).

With that it seem my two options are as follows:
Rebuild the original asy getting a new pivot sleeve, bushings, and thrust caps - It seems these are mostly available from a quick look.

Rebuilt with the top hat style bushings, a new pivot sleeve, and use end caps from a later model with the seal (https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb750k6-four-usa_model14380/cap-dust-seal_52144362000/)

Is there a strong reason to select one option over the other? If I go with the top-hat style bushings, should I order a new K0 style pivot collar (Honda #52141300000) or the K6 type design?


Offline bryanj

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,020
  • CB500 Number 1000036
Re: Swing Arm Rebuild
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2021, 09:46:22 AM »
Use the top hat brass bushings with the early collar and original long bolt with new greasers fitted. The Honda ones are a push fit but unless you are a 100% originality nerd i think its ok to drill, tapand fit standard m6 zerks
Semi Geriatric ex-Honda mechanic and MOT tester (UK version of annual inspection). Garage full of "projects" mostly 500/4 from pre 73 (no road tax in UK).

Remember "Its always in the last place you look" COURSE IT IS YOU STOP LOOKIN THEN!

Offline bryanj

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,020
  • CB500 Number 1000036
Re: Swing Arm Rebuild
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2021, 09:51:23 AM »
Forgot to say its common for the collar to wear more than the bushes and it aint cheap
Semi Geriatric ex-Honda mechanic and MOT tester (UK version of annual inspection). Garage full of "projects" mostly 500/4 from pre 73 (no road tax in UK).

Remember "Its always in the last place you look" COURSE IT IS YOU STOP LOOKIN THEN!

Offline Kelly E

  • Geriatric Hooligan
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,365
Re: Swing Arm Rebuild
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2021, 05:04:22 PM »
My buddy found a kit for $100 that changes it to needle bearings with thrust bearing swingarm caps for the 74' 550K0. It came with two needle bearings, two thrust bearing caps and a new inner sleeve. It has zero resistance to movement. I think he got it from Dime City Cycle.
Never Give Up - Never Surrender

The Rust Bros. Garage Collection
1974 Honda CB 550 K0                                            1971 MGB/GT
1975 Honda CB 400F Super Sport                          1972 MGB/GT
1977 Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD                                   1985 GMC S15
1978 Kawasaki KL 250
1980 Suzuki GS 1100E
1982 Honda CB 900F Super Sport
1983 Honda CB 1100F
1984 Honda VF 700S Sabre
1984 Honda VF 1000F Interceptor
1990 Moto Guzzi 1000 Le Mans
1994 Kawasaki Concours ZG 1000A9
2005 Harley Davidson Fat Boy

Offline BenelliSEI

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 9,921
  • 1969 cb750
Re: Swing Arm Rebuild
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2021, 05:25:34 PM »
Use the top hat brass bushings with the early collar and original long bolt with new greasers fitted. The Honda ones are a push fit but unless you are a 100% originality nerd i think its ok to drill, tapand fit standard m6 zerks

+1 to this. I drill and tap the through bolt for proper grease fittings. If you are so inclined, drill the bottom of the chassis tube that holds the brake pedal pivot shaft, and install a grease fitting there to. Takes a bit of fiddling. Once the fitting is snug in the threaded hole (I usually give it a drop of loctite), then go inside and grind off the excess with a small Dremel stone. Pump a bit of grease through to clear any chips. Now you can grease the pedal anytime you do the swing arm.