Author Topic: 750F thread? (Read 166478 times)

ofreen · « **Reply #475 on:** February 19, 2011, 10:50:52 AM »

Quote from: Jerry Rxman Griffin on February 19, 2011, 09:57:19 AM

Yeah, take that you roo humper you

Go easy on Terry. He got rid of the F0 he had way back when and has been sorry since. So he derides them to cover his regret. It's sad to see, really.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #476 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:12:27 PM »

PFFFT! I always laugh out loud at how now, 35+ years after they were snubbed by anyone who had half an ounce of taste, the F/F1 is considered by some of you troglodytes to be something special, rather than the redheaded stepson that it truly is. Talk about rose colored glasses!

I bought my shiny new yellow 1975 model F in 1978, fresh outta the crate for a massive discount because Honda couldn't move them. I didn't want an F, I wanted an F2, but as an 18 year old I couldn't get the finance for the F2 so I had to settle for the F.

Regrets? Yep, I should have walked away and bought that nice used Z1 instead...............

ofreen · « **Reply #477 on:** February 19, 2011, 03:08:48 PM »

Quote from: Terry in Australia on February 19, 2011, 01:12:27 PM

Regrets? Yep,

I feel your pain, brother.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #478 on:** February 19, 2011, 03:22:07 PM »

Quote from: ofreen on February 19, 2011, 03:08:48 PM

Quote from: Terry in Australia on February 19, 2011, 01:12:27 PM
Regrets? Yep,

I feel your pain, brother.

Ha ha, well take your F over to the metal recyclers mate, and that pain will go away.............

ofreen · « **Reply #479 on:** February 19, 2011, 03:30:39 PM »

It is too bad this one got away. You could have painted it yellow to relive your glory days. Don't worry, there are more out there. If not in Oz, then we'll find one and send it down.

http://charleston.craigslist.org/mcy/2192087243.html

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #480 on:** February 19, 2011, 03:37:55 PM »

Well thanks mate, I'm always up for a free bike, I could always turn it into a nice cafe like Spencepop's, or better still, use the engine in a chopper and junk the rest, you haven't got an Amen frame lying around have you mate?

cobrajunkie · « **Reply #481 on:** February 19, 2011, 03:45:41 PM »

oh my... this has become a F hatin thread? when I purchased my F1 from the PO, I honestly didn't even know there were F and K CBs. Now that I'm knee deep in making it my own obsession, I've grown quite fond of the little beast. I would have been just as happy with a K but all I know is I got a rear disc and having a phuking blast. The aftermarket parts market for these bikes is outstanding and this forum is priceless. (I mean that. Every time I get on this forum, I spend more money) Gotta go find my glasses now.

ofreen · « **Reply #482 on:** February 19, 2011, 03:47:06 PM »

Quote from: Terry in Australia on February 19, 2011, 03:37:55 PM

Well thanks mate, I'm always up for a free bike, I could always turn it into a nice cafe like Spencepop's, or better still, use the engine in a chopper and junk the rest, you haven't got an Amen frame lying around have you mate?

Glad to see you are coming around, but just so's there no misunderstanding, you'd have to pay all expenses. But considering what you'd be getting, it would be a bargain.

ofreen · « **Reply #483 on:** February 19, 2011, 03:51:01 PM »

Quote from: cobrajunkie on February 19, 2011, 03:45:41 PM

oh my... this has become a F hatin thread?

Naw, Terry doesn't hate F0/F1s. He just feels bad he let his get away all those years ago. They say there are 5 stages of grief and loss, denial being the first stage. It is worrisome that he hasn't made it past stage 1 after all these years.

Trav-i · « **Reply #484 on:** February 19, 2011, 04:30:23 PM »

I'm begining to like my F3 more and more. Finally decided to really ride it for the first time since I bought it back in December. Had to do quite a few maintenance related items to it before it was really safe for the road again. What a blast I had today, especially the awesome weather. Now if could just fix these pesky oil leaks at the seam of the cases without breaking them apart I would be really happy. As soon as it gets daylight around here I'll take a few new pics and put 'em up.

Travis

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #485 on:** February 19, 2011, 05:04:01 PM »

Quote from: ofreen on February 19, 2011, 03:51:01 PM

Quote from: cobrajunkie on February 19, 2011, 03:45:41 PM
oh my... this has become a F hatin thread?

Naw, Terry doesn't hate F0/F1s. He just feels bad he let his get away all those years ago. They say there are 5 stages of grief and loss, denial being the first stage. It is worrisome that he hasn't made it past stage 1 after all these years.

Ha ha, nah, I got rid of that ugly POS 10 months after I bought it, and although there are still plenty around I've NEVER wanted another one, and don't get me going on that stupid rear disc setup, why put the most powerful brake on the back? Did the designer ride a Harley?

The F2/3 on the other hand, is a wonderful bike, it's the bike that the F should have been. Fast, great brakes and handling, and it just looks so much better than it's unwanted predecessor. This is my second one, I wish that I'd never sold my first one, it was a superb bike. Cheers, Terry.

ofreen · « **Reply #486 on:** February 19, 2011, 05:11:06 PM »

Quote from: Terry in Australia on February 19, 2011, 05:04:01 PM

Ha ha, nah, I got rid of that ugly POS 10 months after I bought it, and although there are still plenty around I've NEVER wanted another one, and don't get me going on that stupid rear disc setup, why put the most powerful brake on the back? Did the designer ride a Harley?

The F2/3 on the other hand, is a wonderful bike, it's the bike that the F should have been. Fast, great brakes and handling, and it just looks so much better than it's unwanted predecessor. This is my second one, I wish that I'd never sold my first one, it was a superb bike. Cheers, Terry.

That is a nice bike. Too bad about the wheels. Some nice wire-spoked wheels would look good there.

I can't argue about the old single disc front brake. They should have upgraded the front when they put a disc in the back.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #487 on:** February 19, 2011, 07:05:38 PM »

Thanks Offy, I'm a fan of Comstars though, not only do they look good, they were developed for racing and are way more rigid than spoked wheels, hence part of the reason for the F2/3's far superior handling over the F.

Not only was the F front brake seriously underwhelming for a "sport" bike, the rear brake was terrible, way too grabby, which made for lots of skidding and not too much braking. This was fixed on the F2/F3, so if you're still running the original "widow maker" rear brake on yours, you might want to try an F2/3 caliper on yours. It probably wouldn't hurt to add another disc and caliper up front while you're at it. Cheers, Terry.

MRieck · « **Reply #488 on:** February 19, 2011, 07:45:42 PM »

It isn't that hard to attach the F spoked wheel to the F2 front end. My brother owned an F2 during the late 70's and my F was always quicker secondary to the primary reduction being 1.985:1 as opposed to the F2's being 1.708:1. Weight help a bit too I guess....227kg compared to 232.5

MRieck · « **Reply #489 on:** February 19, 2011, 07:54:38 PM »

The nice thing about the 2 rotors in the front is you get rid of the fork twisting that occurs during hard braking (with the 1 rotor).

ofreen · « **Reply #490 on:** February 19, 2011, 07:55:06 PM »

Quote from: Terry in Australia on February 19, 2011, 07:05:38 PM

Thanks Offy, I'm a fan of Comstars though, not only do they look good, they were developed for racing and are way more rigid than spoked wheels, hence part of the reason for the F2/3's far superior handling over the F.

Not only was the F front brake seriously underwhelming for a "sport" bike, the rear brake was terrible, way too grabby, which made for lots of skidding and not too much braking. This was fixed on the F2/F3, so if you're still running the original "widow maker" rear brake on yours, you might want to try an F2/3 caliper on yours. It probably wouldn't hurt to add another disc and caliper up front while you're at it. Cheers, Terry.

The Comstars are strong, that's for sure. The later ones looked OK, such as on the 900F I had at one time.

I doubt after all these years I'll mess with the brakes on mine, in spite of their faults. Whatever the limitations of the front brake, at least it doesn't overwhelm the fork.

The rear brake isn't that bad. Maybe pad compounds are different now, but I don't remember it ever being that bad as far as being grabby even 34 years ago. The main problem between the two brakes is the feel is completely different between the two. The rear is right there, while the front is, shall we say, less so. But you get used to it.

mick750F · « **Reply #491 on:** February 19, 2011, 11:27:57 PM »

Okay Terry, you're still effin' AND more importantly showing true insight about the short lived sohc 750F's. For now, consider your sins against the F's to be absolved. Of course that's coming from an F3 guy, the F0/1 guys might still have a problem with you. I'm just hoping nobody mentions the F2/3 top end problems...oooops, guess I just did that.

Mike

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #492 on:** February 20, 2011, 02:08:07 AM »

Ha ha, well Mike, I believe that the F2/3 top end problems were a little over-exaggerated, and quite easily fixed. My first F2 had around 30,000 miles on it when I bought it from the original owner who had maintained it meticulously, and it had a beautiful engine, showing no signs of top end problems. I wish I still had it.

My current F2 was an absolute POS when I bought it on EBay for 510 bucks, it had been crashed, in at least one fire, and left to rot outside. Not surprisingly, all the F2/3 "Gremlins" had manifested themselves in this engine, and due to the scarcity off parts for the black engines in 04/05, I used a K6 top end when I rebuilt it. I'm happy to see that there are plenty of good quality F2/3 top end parts available now though, so shortly I'll re-install the correct head and cylinders again.

I should say about now that I was very lucky that the old Greenspun site was full of very helpful, knowledgeable "F" guys like Mike Rieck who helped me out with some much needed parts, along with Sean Condon and a few other guys, because all I was able to salvage from my EBay "Bargain" was the frame, the wheels, and the bottom end of the engine, everything else was replaced. Here's an EBay "before" pic. It actually looked much better in the pic than what it was. Cheers, Terry.

mick750F · « **Reply #493 on:** February 20, 2011, 05:19:45 AM »

Wow, you certainly turned that one around. Ahhh, the old Greenspun days...sweet memories. My F3 has 20,000 something miles on it and is starting to show signs of the top end problems. Luckily for me Mike is practically a neighbor...in a global sense, no a US sense, no a state wise sense...okay, the bugger is about an hour and a half away.

When I'm ready he gets some work and I end up with a much improved engine.

Mike

BeSeeingYou · « **Reply #494 on:** February 20, 2011, 09:57:29 AM »

Quote from: cobrajunkie on February 19, 2011, 03:45:41 PM

oh my... this has become a F hatin thread? when I purchased my F1 from the PO, I honestly didn't even know there were F and K CBs. Now that I'm knee deep in making it my own obsession, I've grown quite fond of the little beast. I would have been just as happy with a K but all I know is I got a rear disc and having a phuking blast. The aftermarket parts market for these bikes is outstanding and this forum is priceless. (I mean that. Every time I get on this forum, I spend more money) Gotta go find my glasses now.

Don't worry much of this is just good humored ribbing.

The F bikes, any model, are better than the K in every way except "collector value" so you have a great bike for your project. Don't even get me started on the fat, stodgy, old fashioned look of the K. Just puttin' a 4 into 1 on that bike helps by getting rid of that ugly, cheap stock exhaust.

I keep reading about the rear disc on the F0/1 being touchy but have not had that problem. I still have the original pads and have rebuilt the system but it does not seem overly powerful or prone to lock up. Maybe I did a crappy job on the bleeding/rebuild.

I'll post a picture of my F1 just to get Terry wound up over how much he secretly regrets selling his F1

Freaky1 · « **Reply #495 on:** February 20, 2011, 10:12:42 AM »

12 billion "k"'s produced and only minor changes

'77 & '78 "F"'s aka - The Redheaded Stepchild - all kinds of changes and only for those two years

I know which one I'd find more collectible.

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #496 on:** February 20, 2011, 10:13:07 AM »

Yeah, Terry likes the K's better because they LOOK bigger but the F's actually look better on a smaller guy

One reason my rear locks up easier is due to the fact that my rear tire is like my head - balding and it will lock much quicker than when it has tread.

Don R · « **Reply #497 on:** February 20, 2011, 10:25:18 AM »

My f1's front brake was nothing to brag about, maybe a service issue rather than a design problem. I just added another one on the right and polished the forks brackets and calipers, the rear works nicely. It lookl like the one pictured above except with my shorter muffler.

Mandic · « **Reply #498 on:** February 23, 2011, 09:14:26 AM »

I love my F2, people just never believe me about them. When I say I own a CB750 and am having a hard time finding parts for it I constantly get strange looks. Then I have to explain that I own a 77 CB750F. And the F2/F3 were only made those 2 years, in limited numbers(does anyone have actual production numbers?) and a lot of parts are just different.

About to pull my bike in the garage and get back to work on it. This move to Texas really screwed me up.

Trav-i · « **Reply #499 on:** February 23, 2011, 07:25:06 PM »

Finally here a couple shots of my F3. Not quite orginal has a little over five thousand miles on the clock, but the orginal engine is long gone. Right now according to the numbers it has a F0 engine in it, which seems to still be pretty darn strong.

The last one is the first pic with my new Frankenstuff side cover on, it was orginally missing the left cover... Now on to the quest for a left side badge for the cover.

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Author Topic: 750F thread? (Read 166478 times)