Topic: dyna s ignition

[wrenchman]

im sure yhis has been covered befor but im a newbie and couldnt find anything on it, are the dyna s eltronic ign. ds 1-2 system a good system to install , ive priced out new points and condensora and i can buy the dyna for 15.00 more than the points. your thoughts please

[Celco]

I am a noob here too... but what I can see from the Dyna-S that I put into my 550, its so much nicer.  Love the fact that I wont have to be playing with points ever.  But at the same time It sucks that if it does burn out you're done for and have to return it to Dyna for replacement.

Id say go for it.

[Gordon]

If you want to read previous threads on the dyna-s, type it into the search field at the top right of the main forum page.  I'm sure dozens of hits will show up.

I've given my opinion before, but I'll give it again:  I love my Dyna-S on my 750.  I love it so much I just bought another one for my 550.  Even with the stock coils that one change turned it from a 10+ kick start bike into a 1 kick bike.  Warm-up times are also greatly decreased. 

The unit I have on my 750 has been on there for five years, and before that it was on my 400F for about two years, and briefly on my 350F.  It's entirely maintenance free and is actually a period correct mod for these bikes because it's been around for so long. 

You will not be disappointed in your purchase. 

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Very reliable ,very good electonic ignition system,used on street and race bikes, since late 70s.Bill There coils work well also,stock voltage @22,000,Dyna coils 35,000.Bill

[BobbyR]

I grew up with points in my cars and points suck. I have the tools and experience to handle points. When it came to replace the points, I went Dyna and never looked back.

[Gordon]

I grew up with points in my cars and points suck. I have the tools and experience to handle points. When it came to replace the points, I went Dyna and never looked back.

Same here.  I've had more than enough experience with points on my cars and bikes that I can happily move on and not feel like I've missed anything.  It's sort of like knowing how to do the math on paper when you need to, but using a calculator instead when there's one nearby.

[OldSchool_IsCool]

OK, someone has to offer a counter opinion.  I like my points!  I like the fact that I can fix them road side with a screw driver and a book of matches.  Yes, yes, I know Dyna's are reliable, but can you afford to carry a spare in case of failure?  Sure you can carry a spare points plate, but will you know what to do with them if you need to put them on?

For me, the ideal compromise is a fresh set of points and a Hondaman Ignition module.  The module is basically a solid state relay that uses the pulse from the points to switch the coils on and off.  The module does the heavy lifting while the points get but a trickle of the original current.  Less current means less wear.  Less wear means reduced maintenance.  If the module fails, then I simply plug the wires back as original and I'm back on the road in 30 seconds.

[BobbyR]

I probably would have gone with Hondamans rig also, but I did the Dyna a year before he started making them.

[bucky katt]

once my finances recover i'll be going back to a points plate and hondaman ignition as well. i got stranded out in BFE once with no cell phone reception with a bad trigger unit on my dyna. i want to be able to travel on my 750 k4 with no worries.

[wrenchman]

OK, someone has to offer a counter opinion.  I like my points!  I like the fact that I can fix them road side with a screw driver and a book of matches.  Yes, yes, I know Dyna's are reliable, but can you afford to carry a spare in case of failure?  Sure you can carry a spare points plate, but will you know what to do with them if you need to put them on?

For me, the ideal compromise is a fresh set of points and a Hondaman Ignition module.  The module is basically a solid state relay that uses the pulse from the points to switch the coils on and off.  The module does the heavy lifting while the points get but a trickle of the original current.  Less current means less wear.  Less wear means reduced maintenance.  If the module fails, then I simply plug the wires back as original and I'm back on the road in 30 seconds.

ok how do i get ahold of hondaman and get pricing and a delivery date, plus ask him a couple ? thanks.

[BobbyR]

Simple, just find one of his posts or do a member search and send him a message.

[Simpson]

I like that idea also. Is there a thread dicussing it in detail?

[GammaFlat]

Here's a link to HondaMan's ignition:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=54253.0

[quam]

my buddy just bought himself a '77 cb750 that had the dyna s in it.
it's doin something weird though, i'm not real familiar w/ this system so this may be normal; when i hook up a timing gun to the left coil (outer cylinders) it lights, but when i hook it up to the right coil (inner cylinders) it won't even light up to tell me if they're timed right.....
this is a pickup type gun that you hook to the battery and clamp the little pickup to the spark plug wire with the wire plugged into the spark plug.
from the responses in this thread it seems like this system has a rep for being reliable, but there's def something wrong w/ this one.
is it supposed to be fed from the rear brake live wire? 
and why is the gun not registering if there is spark against the motor?
tia

[bucky katt]

i think i remember being told as well that you need to make sure you dont buy the cheap points with the weak springs in them. probably by HondaMan

[GoatBaSS]

Dyna s makes all the little problems fade away.......
A world of reliability and a great piece of mind.......
Get one today! NOW!

[TwoTired]

my buddy just bought himself a '77 cb750 that had the dyna s in it.
it's doin something weird though, i'm not real familiar w/ this system so this may be normal; when i hook up a timing gun to the left coil (outer cylinders) it lights, but when i hook it up to the right coil (inner cylinders) it won't even light up to tell me if they're timed right.....
this is a pickup type gun that you hook to the battery and clamp the little pickup to the spark plug wire with the wire plugged into the spark plug.
...and why is the gun not registering if there is spark against the motor?

Some inductive triggers on timing lights are pulse polarity sensitive.  You could try flipping the inductive clamp on the ignition lead.

Back original post...
The dyna s will draw more power from your charging system, as it leaves the coils in the on state during each crankshaft revolution far longer than points do. This results in about a 30% more power draw from the ignition system on the charging system.  It's not much impact on the 750's with its bigger alternator.  But, on the 550, it could be noticeable, particularly if the wiring and switches, etc., haven't been getting any attention since new.

I always thought the Dyna-s too expensive for what it does.  So, I still have points on all of mine.  (And a small stock pile of new ones).  Still, I've been tempted from time to time as I am a gadget geek.  But the points system still serves admirably.  I very much like the idea behind the Hondaman unit, as I have no doubt that it would reduce even what paltry attention is now required by the stock points.  But, if I got one of them, the other 9 bikes I have would be jealous.  Multiplying the price by 10 has made me realize how easy it is to maintain the current stable of points I have. 

Cheers,