Topic: The "Future" of CB750 coined Smart Bike

[JAG]

Has anyone seen this???


http://autoambush.com/blog/tag/honda/

[Thor's Hammer!]

Man...that is all kinds of FUGLY.

I would rather walk thank you!!

[Zaipai]

Wow, I am not sure what to say. I wonder if its actually going to production looking like that. I guess I would have to ride it to know if I would rather walk. I will say that I probably could not afford it once it does it the streets.. Imagine the price tag on that.

[1974CB750rider]

It's is unique but if they make it it will cost BIGBUCKS, although I'd like to ride it just to see what it felt like. I bet it still don't sound as good as my SOHC 750 with a 4into1. 

[Zaipai]

It's is unique but if they make it it will cost BIGBUCKS, although I'd like to ride it just to see what it felt like. I bet it still don't sound as good as my SOHC 750 with a 4into1. 

I would take that bet. I don't see how it could sound (or perhaps ride) like the original thing~!

[razor02097]

liquid nitrogen as fuel?  You spill some gas on you its not the end of the world... you spill that on you and your going to the ER

[Peters1983]

I saw this a few months ago on another site and commented on it, wasn't a fan of them using the CB750 label on it, and the cost would be outrageous.

they replied saying it was just a concept to see if there was any interest in something like that.

[Zaipai]

liquid nitrogen as fuel?  You spill some gas on you its not the end of the world... you spill that on you and your going to the ER

They actually have special fueling nozzles for this. It should not spill. However I wonder what the unit cost would be on that, cheaper then a gal of gas?

[Laminar]

liquid nitrogen as fuel?  You spill some gas on you its not the end of the world... you spill that on you and your going to the ER

No.

http://technology.todaysbigthing.com/2009/07/20

[Mattbastard]

features a full on, rear and front electro-magnetic suspension which will ensure less maintenance

Yea, like our coil spring suspension was sooo maintenance intensive anyway.  Man am I glad they came up with a solution for this headache... 

[Zaipai]

features a full on, rear and front electro-magnetic suspension which will ensure less maintenance

Yea, like our coil spring suspension was sooo maintenance intensive anyway.  Man am I glad they came up with a solution for this headache... 

VERY good point! That one slipped right by me.

[lordmoonpie]

It said liquid hydrogen for fuel - one crash and ka-boom! Hindenburg Mk11...otherwise I think it looks smart 

[Inigo Montoya]

Actually I do not think hydrogen would be anymore dangerous than gas in a crash

higher volumetric energy density liquid hydrogen or slush hydrogen may be used (as in the Space Shuttle). However liquid hydrogen requires cryogenic storage and boils around 20.268 K (–252.882 °C or -423.188 °F). Hence, its liquefaction imposes a large energy loss (as energy is needed to cool it down to that temperature). The tanks must also be well insulated to prevent boil off. Insulation for liquid hydrogen tanks is usually expensive and delicate. Assuming all of that is solvable, the density problem remains. Liquid hydrogen has worse energy density by volume than hydrocarbon fuels such as gasoline by approximately a factor of four. This highlights the density problem for pure hydrogen: there is actually about 64% more hydrogen in a liter of gasoline (116 grams hydrogen) than there is in a liter of pure liquid hydrogen (71 grams hydrogen). The carbon in the gasoline also contributes to the energy of combustion.

So its energy density would appear to be lower than gas.

[Old Scrambler]

Cool but expensive concept.  Expanded hydrogen or pressurized will escape to atmosphere in a quick plum that is not visible to the human eye or a standard camera, whether or not it is burning.  The Hindenburg fire was the aluminum paint and the shell of the 'tank'.  Most of the deaths in that accident were caused by the crash of the passenger pod and those who jumped.  Someone in Florida did a lot of technical work on hydrogen safety a few years ago.  Its actually safer than gasoline in the case of a punchured fuel tank located at the rear of an automobile.  Now..........having a chin pad directly on the tank may be a little different. 

[hav150]

I would appreciate importing something like this.

[Gordon]

Actually I do not think hydrogen would be anymore dangerous than gas in a crash

Actually, it would be less dangerous. 

[cb750fbomb]

I would appreciate importing something like this.

No #$%*!! That looks a lot better than that anime-esque thing

[Caminokid]

Actually I do not think hydrogen would be anymore dangerous than gas in a crash

higher volumetric energy density liquid hydrogen or slush hydrogen may be used (as in the Space Shuttle). However liquid hydrogen requires cryogenic storage and boils around 20.268 K (–252.882 °C or -423.188 °F). Hence, its liquefaction imposes a large energy loss (as energy is needed to cool it down to that temperature). The tanks must also be well insulated to prevent boil off. Insulation for liquid hydrogen tanks is usually expensive and delicate. Assuming all of that is solvable, the density problem remains. Liquid hydrogen has worse energy density by volume than hydrocarbon fuels such as gasoline by approximately a factor of four. This highlights the density problem for pure hydrogen: there is actually about 64% more hydrogen in a liter of gasoline (116 grams hydrogen) than there is in a liter of pure liquid hydrogen (71 grams hydrogen). The carbon in the gasoline also contributes to the energy of combustion.

So its energy density would appear to be lower than gas.

did you really want to use the space shuttle as an example? I havent forgot the one that blew up.

[Caminokid]

I wouldnt want it. I think I will stay with my 73 750.

[nokrome]

it looks like a tazer gun on wheels
   looks like a rejected prop from that movie Tron
      looks ugly......no thank you!

[Zaipai]

Actually I do not think hydrogen would be anymore dangerous than gas in a crash

higher volumetric energy density liquid hydrogen or slush hydrogen may be used (as in the Space Shuttle). However liquid hydrogen requires cryogenic storage and boils around 20.268 K (–252.882 °C or -423.188 °F). Hence, its liquefaction imposes a large energy loss (as energy is needed to cool it down to that temperature). The tanks must also be well insulated to prevent boil off. Insulation for liquid hydrogen tanks is usually expensive and delicate. Assuming all of that is solvable, the density problem remains. Liquid hydrogen has worse energy density by volume than hydrocarbon fuels such as gasoline by approximately a factor of four. This highlights the density problem for pure hydrogen: there is actually about 64% more hydrogen in a liter of gasoline (116 grams hydrogen) than there is in a liter of pure liquid hydrogen (71 grams hydrogen). The carbon in the gasoline also contributes to the energy of combustion.

So its energy density would appear to be lower than gas.

I heard this before. So my question is why would they go with this type of fuel given its expense, density and storage issues. Seems to me if they are looking for some alternative fuel (even if its a concept) there are better alternatives. So say the chemists where I work. Makes one wonder why...

[Laminar]

I heard this before. So my question is why would they go with this type of fuel given its expense, density and storage issues.

Because:
gasoline + air = energy + carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, water, and NOx

hydrogen + air = energy + water

Also, I hope that everyone realizes that this is a concept that exists in the digital world only, so all of the "features" listed are whatever the designer decided to make up. It's equivalent to me scribbling a picture of a motorcycle on a piece of notebook paper and saying that it has retractable wings that allow it to fly. So all of this talk of carbon fiber, titanium, suspension pieces, hydrogen-powered engine, etc. is just design masturbation.

It's also hard to believe that the designer has ever ridden a motorcycle, since one of the features he made up is radar designed to "sense an upcoming head-on collision and will automatically slow the bike.” I can think of a LOT of situations where an automatic braking system would cause HUGE problems for a rider.

[RainyRider]

I might be more tempted if the guy could spell...

"breaking"
"duel clutch"

Unless he actually means that it breaks, and there are two clutches fighting each other.

Please tell me more about that CB1100F... (want)

[manjisann]

I think it was actually the original bike they wanted to use in The Dark Knight, but it got rejected. Think looks like its got gun pods on the front (which I'm all for,it'd only take once and no one would EVER cut me off again  )  I'd often toyed with the idea of building a bike like the one off FinalFantasy XII, I think someone actually beat me to the general concept.

Brandon

[Gordon]

did you really want to use the space shuttle as an example? I havent forgot the one that blew up.

Neither have I, but you have apparently forgotten that the space shuttle was also carrying liquid oxygen right next to the liquid hydrogen.  It makes a bit of a difference.