Topic: The "Future" of CB750 coined Smart Bike

[Achmed]

When you crash it, does it crush your ribs? That tank sits up really high.

[Laminar]

When you crash it, does it crush your ribs? That tank sits up really high.

It's impossible to crash - the designer invented so many electronic safety measure that you don't actually control anything on the bike, including throttle and brakes.

[manjisann]

It's got a gyro in it, stands upright at all times, turnings a bit of a pain. Its the motorcycle for the rest of us 

Brandon

[Shenanigans]

Why does everything from the "future" have so many angles everywhere...

[Zaipai]

Whys does everything from the "future" have so many angles everywhere...

Funny part is they almost never release them to production like that.

[Laminar]

the fuel is liquid hydrogen which puts out about 20% more power then any gas engine. Yes I would buy one, yea I like it... So what! It will probebly smoke the old 750 no matter how much nodding you do to it.

This post is a plethora of intelligence.

[chippyfive50]

I hear it is the star of the new TRON sequel.

[tomsweb1]

My God, that thing is a bucket of eyesore. The technology sounds great. I'm all for adavancing motorcycle tech. It's pretty far behind right now, if you ask me. Does it have to be so Butt Ugly?!
 

I would appreciate importing something like this.

Now THAT is something we should have here. It's my personal opinion that they would sell like HOTCAKES! I don't know how many people I know want a Bonneyville for the style, but don't want a Triumph. I think that CB1100F would fill that massive void in the market. I know I would be on that!

[lordmoonpie]

Someone explain to me then why hydrogen is safer than gasoline....

hydrogen + oxygen + spark (crash!) = bang!

[Gordon]

Someone explain to me then why hydrogen is safer than gasoline....

hydrogen + oxygen + spark (crash!) = bang!

There's nowhere near enough oxygen in the surrounding air to burn more than a tiny portion of the highly compressed hydrogen before it completely dissipates.  That's why the space shuttle needs a large tank of liquid oxygen to mix with the liquid hydrogen in order to create an enormous controlled explosion.

Also, when hydrogen leaks from a tank it immediately turns back into a gas and quickly/harmlessly rises into the atmosphere.  When a gasoline tank leaks the fuel spills onto the ground, underneath your vehicle, and provides a ready fuel source for a fire to burn you and your vehicle. 

[shaft9ii]

Nevermind the fact that some idiot will actually try to use that nav system while riding...as it is I have friends who practically drive off the road following their damn Garmin.

 I don't wanna know what'll happen if some crotch rocket kid decides he wants to find where the nearest mall is on his nav while riding at 90 mph

[lordmoonpie]

Someone explain to me then why hydrogen is safer than gasoline....

hydrogen + oxygen + spark (crash!) = bang!

There's nowhere near enough oxygen in the surrounding air to burn more than a tiny portion of the highly compressed hydrogen before it completely dissipates.  That's why the space shuttle needs a large tank of liquid oxygen to mix with the liquid hydrogen in order to create an enormous controlled explosion.

Also, when hydrogen leaks from a tank it immediately turns back into a gas and quickly/harmlessly rises into the atmosphere.  When a gasoline tank leaks the fuel spills onto the ground, underneath your vehicle, and provides a ready fuel source for a fire to burn you and your vehicle. 

Not convinced Gordon - at the point of exit of the hydrogen from a burst tank there will be a concentration of it sufficient to ignite and there's plenty oxygen to do it. Look at it another way, you can put some hydrogen gas in an inverted test tube, turn it over and add a glowing splint and it will ignite and pop. Same air around it, same hydrogen gas.

Either way - I don't want to be the first to prove or disprove the theory in practice

[Inigo Montoya]

I seriously doubt that hydrogen is more dangerous than gas in a crash. After all, as you compress it into a gas, it ends up losing energy. The big thing with doing hydrogen is not so much better performance or economy but using less oil and creating less pollution. I dont know if you have kept up on honda cars at all but one of their big focuses is lower the pollution from their cars. It stands to reason that they would carry that over to a bike.

[Laminar]

I seriously doubt that hydrogen is more dangerous than gas in a crash. After all, as you compress it into a gas, it ends up losing energy.

Compressing it into a gas from what...it's plasma state?

The big thing with doing hydrogen is not so much better performance or economy but using less oil and creating less pollution. I dont know if you have kept up on honda cars at all but one of their big focuses is lower the pollution from their cars. It stands to reason that they would carry that over to a bike.

This concept has nothing to do with Honda.

[NickC]

Liquid hydrogen is fairly stable, as long as you keep it cold. The problem is just that, keeping it cold.  I can't see how you can properly maintain a cryo-fuel like that on a motorcycle.

[Laminar]

OBviosly

Irony?

[Inigo Montoya]

oh sorry lam, would it have been better if I said compressing it into liquid? Would you have gotten that one?

The big thing with doing hydrogen is not so much better performance or economy but using less oil and creating less pollution. I dont know if you have kept up on honda cars at all but one of their big focuses is lower the pollution from their cars. It stands to reason that they would carry that over to a bike.

This concept has nothing to do with Honda.

In what way? Did honda pioneer hydrogen cars? not that I know of. I was saying that honda has a primary focus on making their cars ulevs or Ultra Low Emissions Vehicles. Hydrogen is a sort of holy grail in this pursuit and so it would make sense for honda to explore it. I would think this was an obvious statement I made but maybe not for everyone huh.

[Laminar]

oh sorry lam, would it have been better if I said compressing it into liquid? Would you have gotten that one?

Are you really asking me if it would be better to make a correct statement?

In what way? Did honda pioneer hydrogen cars? not that I know of. I was saying that honda has a primary focus on making their cars ulevs or Ultra Low Emissions Vehicles. Hydrogen is a sort of holy grail in this pursuit and so it would make sense for honda to explore it. I would think this was an obvious statement I made but maybe not for everyone huh.

I'm not sure if your statement made in general or directed specifically at this concept vehicle. I was trying to relay the idea that Honda didn't design this concept vehicle - some random guy did, as best as I can tell. Your post seemed to imply that you thought this was a concept vehicle straight from Honda, which it doesn't appear to be.

[Gordon]

I know which car I'd rather be knocked unconscious in or trapped in after a wreck.

[Laminar]

Question for everyone: Is there any evidence that Honda had anything to do with this concept vehicle? I can't seem to find anything linking them to the bike. And since the bike shares ABSOLUTELY nothing with any of the actual CB750s (minus advertised displacement, which the designer just made up), it seems to me that the designer was just trying to capitalize on the popularity of the CB750 to get more attention for his model.

If someone finds evidence otherwise, I'll rescind what I've said, but until then it's stupid to argue about the merits of Honda designing a hydrogen-powered motorcycle when 1. Honda had nothing to do with this and 2. This concept bike exists as a 3D model only, with a list of made-up features to go along with it.

[Gordon]

Question for everyone: Is there any evidence that Honda had anything to do with this concept vehicle? I can't seem to find anything linking them to the bike. And since the bike shares ABSOLUTELY nothing with any of the actual CB750s (minus advertised displacement, which the designer just made up), it seems to me that the designer was just trying to capitalize on the popularity of the CB750 to get more attention for his model.

If someone finds evidence otherwise, I'll rescind what I've said, but until then it's stupid to argue about the merits of Honda designing a hydrogen-powered motorcycle when 1. Honda had nothing to do with this and 2. This concept bike exists as a 3D model only, with a list of made-up features to go along with it.

It was already determined that this is entirely the creation of some guy named Igor Chak during the last thread about this bike.   

[Laminar]

It was already determined that this is entirely the creation of some guy named Igor Chak during the last thread about this bike.   

Okay, just wanted to be sure so I didn't make an ass out of myself.

[Spanner 1]

They better not dare call that thing a CB750..!!   Hey, guys, MUCH more scary is the event of the ELECTRIC bike....us thousands of folks just witnessed the first electric bike racing in the US at the Mid Ohio AMA Vintage weekend......every bit as fast as superbike racing and NOISELESS....!!!! It's coming for sure,   aaaaaah!

[Laminar]

They better not dare call that thing a CB750..!!

Who's "they"?

[Inigo Montoya]

Are you really asking me if it would be better to make a correct statement?

Are you so sure I was wrong? What then is it called LP gas? It is a gas under pressure to make it a liquid. Same as this concept with hydrogen. but whatever. I could go on but whats the point. I knew what I was saying and apparently everyone else did too. You wanted to be a stickler, thats fine but you might want to stickle yourself first. Just a thought.