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Re: Drilled out jets.....WOW, what a difference!
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2009, 08:52:43 AM »
do some research on machining soft materials with standard twist drills....
tri-lobed holes are really common when not drilling through thick materials(under 1/2") with high helix twist drills.


And carbide drills with straight flutes are in a sense reamers.
a reamer has straight flutes for a reason, and that is to avoid the odd-shaped hole that twist drills tend to make.


I have drilled through hasteloy, nimonic, duplex and a whole host of other exotic stainless steels few peop[le know exist.
Harder materials will exhibit this effect to one extent or another, just not to the extent of say aluminum or brass.
Even using 3000psi thru-coolant carbide twist drills the holes never really make a "perfect" hole.







There is a reason holes in jets are made with reamers.







Besides boring the pants off of you(you really should wear belts ladies and gentlemen)

I've drilled out jets before as well.
Worked OK, but ended up buying jets in the end.
Lots of sets in fact... too many looking back on it now. 10 sets is more than any 1 bike needs... now I need more bikes....... :)



From the engineer at I had a conversation with about fluid dynamics going through a reamed jet orifice VS a tri-lobed(or otherwise non-round) hole, he mentioned that the drilled jet probably acts like 1-2 sizes smaller than it measures due to turbulence restricting flow through the opening.
So you may be running as if you had 120-130's....


Dunno, I machine things like a madman, but have no degree in anything past a BS in BS'ing.
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Re: Drilled out jets.....WOW, what a difference!
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2009, 08:54:23 AM »
They could be if you use 77 ones.
 I think the 78s can be shimmed.

Yeah the '77/78 cb750 carbs I have seen are (disturbingly) similar to the PD cb650 carbs.

You can shim them up, but no real needle clip position to choose from without modifying the jet needle itself.


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Re: Drilled out jets.....WOW, what a difference!
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2009, 03:50:35 PM »
Wow jeez, I'm running Yoshi 4-1 exhaust and K&N air filter, with 120s in my carbs and I almost think it's a bit too rich..haven't done a plug chop yet, but my Mileage as gone from around 35MPG to about 26!

Gotta look into that...though it may also be the fact that I am pushing the bike ahrder now that it just sounds so darn awesome with the yoshi :)

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Re: Drilled out jets.....WOW, what a difference!
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2009, 05:54:08 PM »
Wow jeez, I'm running Yoshi 4-1 exhaust and K&N air filter, with 120s in my carbs and I almost think it's a bit too rich..haven't done a plug chop yet, but my Mileage as gone from around 35MPG to about 26!
Has anyone that has done a plug chop actually noticed a difference?

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Gotta look into that...though it may also be the fact that I am pushing the bike ahrder now that it just sounds so darn awesome with the yoshi :)

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Re: Drilled out jets.....WOW, what a difference!
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2009, 08:41:07 AM »
hmmm, alright...what might you suggest?  I had been thinking that was it, but I'm kind of a novice

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Re: Drilled out jets.....WOW, what a difference!
« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2009, 07:12:50 AM »
Best way to get better MPG is to change riding style.  Avoid Jack rabbit starts, buzzing around in a low gear, WOT, excessive idle time, and revving with clutch in or in neutral.  I also found that when working on mine that I didn't take into account the times I have drained the bowls for repair or adjustment.
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Re: Drilled out jets.....WOW, what a difference!
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2009, 09:15:52 AM »
Pulled out the jets that I drilled, and replaced them with some 125s from Z1.  Yep, the ones I drilled were, um....BIG. :o  Comparing them to the 125s, I would estimate that they were 145 or 150.

125s should be just fine with my setup.
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