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Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« on: August 08, 2009, 11:33:01 AM »
    As the title says, I'm re-installing my APE studs into a new case. If memory serves, the end with the longer threads goes into the case, shorter threads up top. I can't get the studs to start threading into the case. The short end threads into the case, no problem, but the long end won't even get past the first thread. The thread pitch on both ends seems the same since I'm able to install the nuts on both ends.

  I guess my question is, long end goes into the case, right?
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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2009, 11:52:41 AM »
Right, longer thread in the case. Not sure about those, but I have had some that claim the end that threads into the case may have a slight oversize pitch which could be your issue. Maybe a little bevel dressing will help?

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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2009, 12:00:23 PM »
Right, longer thread in the case. Not sure about those, but I have had some that claim the end that threads into the case may have a slight oversize pitch which could be your issue. Maybe a little bevel dressing will help?

That's what I'm thinking. I'll see if I have the right size thread chaser, oil up the studs, and try again. Just needed confirmation that I was on the right track. Thanks Brent, check yer mail ;) :)
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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2009, 12:13:56 PM »
Brent you nailed it ,make sure holes are clean !they will only start,(barely)until you start to torque(turn) them,just did Drew's bike 2 wks ago just takes a little time.Good Luck,Bill
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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2009, 12:22:22 PM »
Thanks guys. I don't remember these being so tricky to start. Last couple installs were tight, but easy enough. I'm having to be extra sure that I get them started straight on the first thread or two, but they're going in easy after that. 3 down, 13 to go. Can't find the APE install sheet, but 8 ft/lbs torque into the case sound about right?
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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2009, 12:51:42 PM »
Thats the max,Good Luck,does take a little time,but well worth it!,Bill
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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2009, 06:14:12 AM »
Well I know where I will be next week some time.  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2009, 07:32:13 AM »
APE installation guide.

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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2009, 07:09:55 PM »
Thanks for posting the sheet, Nippon :)  Apparently I've installed them exactly to spec ;D

joeb- hope to have ya over soon for the ol' "heave-ho" into the frame. I've got a Labor Day trip planned and need this bike up and running.
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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2009, 10:09:06 PM »
hey scondon- i always clean up the threads first, with a thread chaser, making sure to clean with solvent and blow out all the mess afterward of course. using grease on the tap helps a lot, as it catches most of the shavings.
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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2009, 09:43:43 AM »
If I'm going to continue putting engines together I have GOT to get a proper set of thread chasers ;) Thread taps just don't cut it. Well...actually, they do, which is the problem :P
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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2009, 10:06:11 AM »
This worked for me, saw a slot in an old one, it chases rather than cuts, then clean and blow as paulages said
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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2009, 10:23:04 AM »
I forgot all about that nifty tool. Thanks for reposting it,Gamma. I'm going to go make one right now, for next time. ;D
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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2009, 10:26:52 AM »
Let me know if it works for you

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Re: Trouble re-installing heavy duty cylinder studs
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2009, 04:11:38 PM »
Gamma,creative young man,Way to go,now there is a use for old stud.Bill ;D ;D
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