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ElCheapo

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Fake sound for your motorcycle
« on: November 26, 2005, 03:18:20 PM »
Now I am the first to say koodos on evironmentally sound stuff but this maybe the better part of dumb. Here is the text from the article.

Revolutionary bike 'too quiet' 
 
Manufacturers are working on fitting an artificial engine sound
The world's first purpose-built hydrogen-powered bike could be fitted with an artificial "vroom" because of worries its silence might be dangerous.
A prototype of the motorbike, which could cost more than $8,300 (£4,500), was unveiled in London on Tuesday.

The problem with the "fuel cell" bike, which produces no polluting emissions, is that it is too quiet.

But anti-noise campaigners said they welcomed the prospect of a motorbike without the usual excruciating roar.

For their part, manufacturers said the fake engine noise device, which could be switched off, would help alert road users.

The motorbike, known as an Emissions Neutral Vehicle (ENV), has a top speed of 50mph (80km/h), a range of at least 100 miles (160km) and can run continuously for four hours before the fuel cell needs recharging.

Its water-vapour emissions are so clean that they are drinkable, according to its designers.

Mobile energy source

But with a noise emission equivalent to an everyday home computer, motorcycle enthusiasts thought the "exhilaration" factor was missing.

"They can add all the noise they want, it will still lack the va-va-voom serious motorcyclists look for," Jeff Stone of the British Motorcyclists Federation told the BBC.

Concerns were raised that the motorcycle was too silent and might not be noticed by other traffic and pedestrians.

Harry Bradbury, chief executive of the bike's British manufacturers Intelligent Energy, said: "What we are doing is introducing flexibility into it, so that you can have ambient noise that is tolerable - low-level noise sufficient for safety reasons - but which can be switched off when desired."

Peter Wakeham, director of the Noise Abatement Society, who said motorbikes were among the worst noise offenders, welcomed the idea of a quiet bike.

"But it kind of defeats the purpose of designing a silent bike only to then add an artificial noise device," he said.

Dr Bradbury said the bike's detachable briefcase-size cell filled with high pressure hydrogen, or "core", could eventually be used as a mobile energy source, with the same cell used to power different objects.

He said the prospect of producing mobile hydrogen energy from a variety of sources, including crops such as soya or sugar cane, could benefit remote communities or developing countries, where large electric grids were not economically viable.


All I can say is "LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES"  ;D

Notice.. so quiet he doesn't even need a helmet  ::)

 
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ElCheapo

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Re: Fake sound for your motorcycle
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2005, 03:28:31 PM »
Have to wonder if they can make that sound like a 750 with HM300 pipes?  ::)

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Re: Fake sound for your motorcycle
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2005, 03:56:56 PM »
gee,and they are the same people that say loud pipes dont save lives.you just cant please anybody nowadays
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ElCheapo

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Re: Fake sound for your motorcycle
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2005, 04:06:03 PM »
Nope, can't please anyone.  ;D

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Re: Fake sound for your motorcycle
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2005, 05:01:15 PM »
It is odd that auto and cycle makers are still going ofter hydrogen based engins...Cal-Tech, MIT and RIT have all abandoned hydrogen as a fuel source because it takes more energy to get the hydrogen than the hydrogen created can produce...


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Re: Fake sound for your motorcycle
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2005, 06:00:03 PM »
Don,

Let me tell you a thing about hydrogen.

Hydrogen belive it or not can be had for nothing as it is a waste byproduct of other chemical processes.

In the manufacture of chlorine the chemical plant actualy pays companys to take it away, unfortunatly there are very few of these plants in the world.

Getting back to the bike, I have just been reading up on this little sucker.

It has a top speed of 50mph, weighs 80kgs, takes just 12secs to reach its top speed, produces a Honda 50 8bhp but belive it or not
Produces a mind blowing ginormous 100 ft lb of torque.  WOW.

Might build me self a drag racing version. ;D ;D ;D

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Buffo

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Re: Fake sound for your motorcycle
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2005, 06:10:06 PM »
hydrogen may be a byproduct of many operations but it is still energy effecient to produce. and that it is a byproduct of a hand full of operations is irrelivant on using it as a  "globel fuel"

I am not saying it is not a great, clean fuel that is in every drop of water on the planet...the trick its getting it out of the H2O...funny how chemical bonds work huh...fision is a tricky business

jsaab2748

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Re: Fake sound for your motorcycle
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2005, 06:29:11 PM »
You could always use clothes pins and baseball cards attached to the fender brace. That'd require spoke type wheels tho ;D

Buffo

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Re: Fake sound for your motorcycle
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2005, 06:32:16 PM »
I honestly think it might be cool to have a commuter bike that made zero noise pollution...

Buffo

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2005, 06:34:08 PM »
if they put a rear sproket that wasn't the size of the moon on that thing it might do highway speeds...but you would loose some of that torque

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Re: Fake sound for your motorcycle
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2005, 06:37:40 PM »
Jassb,

Take another look at the bike.

Don,

Can't see you on a quiet bike, you don't even like having your silencer on your bike. ;D ;D ;D
When you have 100ft lb you could afford to loose a bit ;D

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jsaab2748

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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2005, 06:40:27 PM »
After doin a double take, it DOES have spoked wheels! Just add a chrome fender with braces and start clipping...

Buffo

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Re: Fake sound for your motorcycle
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2005, 06:42:56 PM »
check the size of that front brake rotor!

jsaab2748

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Re: Fake sound for your motorcycle
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2005, 06:46:43 PM »
On a more serious note, that idea might do very well in the scooter market. I guess I never really considered that till now.

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2005, 06:52:10 PM »
It's only a prototype at the moment and that front brake is crap.

Got to build a nice clean drag bike to go with my clean white leathers, complete with baseball cards ;D ;D ;D
C95 sprint bike.
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Re: Fake sound for your motorcycle
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2005, 03:51:13 PM »
Maybe they should consult those who are bikers and know just how to build a proper cafe. Now a silent cafe might be cool. If not it's time to get out the playing cards and clothes pin and attach them to the forks  ;D

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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2005, 04:01:05 PM »
I say we put them on both wheels and make a right racket ;D
C95 sprint bike.
CB95 hybrid race bike
CB95 race bike
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JMR Racing CB750A street ET drag bike