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Offline Freaky1

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Bomber goes free!?!
« on: August 20, 2009, 08:44:10 PM »
From the Washington Post.

"Waves of anguish gripped the American families of Lockerbie victims Thursday as the only person ever convicted in the deaths of their loved ones walked free.

"The American families hate this," said Susan Cohen, who lost her 20-year-old daughter, Theodora, in the 1988 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland. "This was done by the Scots, and some in England have fallen for [Libyan leader Moammar] Gadhafi's massive campaign.

"They should feel sorry for the victims, for the good people," said Mrs. Cohen of Cape May Court House, N.J., her voice hoarse after a day of media interviews. "No sympathy for the killer."

Earlier in the day, a Scottish judge released former Libyan agent Abdel Baset al-Megrahi after serving eight years of a life sentence for the bombing, which killed 259 people on a Pan Am jetliner and 11 on the ground.

Megrahi, freed on compassionate grounds because he is dying of cancer, was immediately flown to Libya, where he was greeted by cheering supporters in white robes, including the son of Mr. Gadhafi, before being whisked away in a convoy."




I couldn't beleve the Scotts let this scumbag go. The only guy ever convicted of the PanAm 103 bombing has been released because he has terminal prostate cancer, might die soon, and should be alowed to die at home with his family. Compassion? what the hell, I just don't get it. Then I read that he was welcomed by cheering crowds, what a slap in the face to everyone who lost someone on that day.
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2009, 08:48:39 PM »
Personally, i think they should have shot him on compassionate grounds.   ;D

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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2009, 09:38:17 PM »
I agree with you both, he showed no compassion when he blew up the airliner but was it him that did it.
Remember, we didn't catch him, he was offered up by Libya to get us off Gadhafi's back.
It's sad which ever way you look at it.

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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2009, 10:02:33 PM »
 Oil has no grief, no conscience or morals, nor those who broker in it, except MONEY......
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2009, 02:14:42 AM »
That guy is living on borrowed time, it doesn't really make much difference whether you free him or have him behind bars till he dies -which very unlikely won't happen as he probably would die in a hospital bed-.

I for one applaud the decision, the way he dies won't bring the dead back, but it is good to show who the civilized ones are. Cancer had just come along the way to speed things up, he would have remained behind bars otherwise. Divine or humane, justice has been done from my point of view.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2009, 02:47:06 AM »
I understand there was some question about his guilt from the beginning, I would feel better if they had a new trial and reversed his conviction. There are so many issues that some people use to stir up hatred, it would be nice if this changed that for anyone, but I just don't see that happening.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2009, 05:00:22 AM »
the poor man
he must die humanly
not like all the people he killed on that flight
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2009, 06:16:09 AM »
I guess I go with raul and sam. We may not really know for sure it was him but regardless, do you actually think he is NOT being watched and monitored? I would bet there is someone watching every single thing he does, close enough that when he dies, the agent knows before the doctors do.

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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2009, 11:28:54 AM »
libya gave him to us as part of a deal to end sanctions , we gave him back as part of a deal to sign some oil contracts .

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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2009, 09:50:56 PM »
Thank you, Simon, nothing to do with compassionate release....we don't know if that man has 30 days or 30 years of life left.........oil deal with Gadhafi, plain and simple.
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2009, 09:11:49 AM »
its politics spanner , how could we possibly understand were not corrupt or dishonest

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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2009, 09:12:03 PM »
Obama condemns Lockerbie bomber's 'hero's welcome'

It's sickening. So the Libyans cheer him on because he helped perpetuate one of the worst terrorist acts in human history? Where was this "compassion" bull#$%* when the plane exploded in the first place? (I go to Syracuse, and seeing as over 20 students were killed on the plane and we have a memorial scholarship based on it I'll be hearing a lot more about it on campus.)

Also, at this rate I shouldn't be surprised that the 2nd most read story is "Miley Cyrus' new love." Awesome.

Personally, i think they should have shot him on compassionate grounds.   ;D

This. Would've been cheaper, too, and I'd even offer to pay for the bullet!
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2009, 05:12:27 AM »
Allright, there are two different things in this subject. One is the fact of freeing him on compassionate grounds. The other one is the welcome his countrymen gave them.

I applaud the first decission, but I don't appreciate the second fact, though I understand it. Don't forget that there is a strong anti-America feeling in some countries, therefore it comes to no surprise such a reaction. Obviously, his loved ones would be very happy for his comeback, regardless of the reasons why he was imprisoned.

Even then, the reaction to the comeback is a completely unrelated fact from the fact of freeing him. I mean, if you free him on compassionate grounds, you do it regardless of what other people would think or feel, you do it because you think it is the right thing to do according to the circumstances. If the lybians would have not shown his joy but had felt it, would it had make any difference? I understand that showing such a joy is, to say the least, not a polite thing to do if you care for the victims, but hey, we are discussing about who the civilized ones are. Such a display of joy comes to show again who the civilized ones are not.

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2009, 06:15:46 AM »
Like was said earlier, the reasons behind his conviction might have been suspect but I know here there are people who will spend every moment of their life working to free someone they think is innocent. I know there were appeals made but I believe that if you do the crime, you do the time. I know that is a crappy bumper sticker slogan, but that's the way it should be.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2009, 07:48:37 AM »
The release was total bull#$%*! I don't care how freaking sick he is or how long he has left to live! ZERO COMPASSION for that PIECE OF #$%*!  I wonder how the more liberal members of this board would feel if they knew someone who had died in the bombing. I didn't know any of the victims but then again I don't have to to know what is right or wrong.

He should have been put to death LONG AGO!

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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2009, 07:58:56 AM »
Allright, there are two different things in this subject. One is the fact of freeing him on compassionate grounds. The other one is the welcome his countrymen gave them.

I applaud the first decission, but I don't appreciate the second fact, though I understand it. Don't forget that there is a strong anti-America feeling in some countries, therefore it comes to no surprise such a reaction. Obviously, his loved ones would be very happy for his comeback, regardless of the reasons why he was imprisoned.

Even then, the reaction to the comeback is a completely unrelated fact from the fact of freeing him. I mean, if you free him on compassionate grounds, you do it regardless of what other people would think or feel, you do it because you think it is the right thing to do according to the circumstances. If the lybians would have not shown his joy but had felt it, would it had make any difference? I understand that showing such a joy is, to say the least, not a polite thing to do if you care for the victims, but hey, we are discussing about who the civilized ones are. Such a display of joy comes to show again who the civilized ones are not.

i agree with you completely, if he had been released on compassionate grounds that would be fine however it does seem as if there was some deal brokered involving gadhafi's brother and the british government . there is no real outrage at his release in england as most people here dont believe he actually did it .

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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2009, 03:31:06 PM »
Personally, i think they should have shot him on compassionate grounds.   ;D

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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2009, 09:07:50 PM »
Well phil, the "evidence" was not all that strong to convict him. given that a large number of people do not believe he was the one who did it, maybe there is something to that. I would agree however in the even that a person is without a doubt guilty.

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2009, 01:57:50 AM »
How about those americans -or spaniards, whatever- that are imprisoned in Thailand, Philippines, etc? Don't you feel that there must be something wrong when a countrymen of yours get imprisoned in a third-world jail? Don't you want all your govenrment and embassies to walk the extra mile to bring him back home? And that even before really knowing whether he is innocent or not. And still, most of the people getting imprisoned in those countries are brought back, and the reasons are almost always political, such as threats of cutting down funds, trade and the like.

You can fight with your brother and hit him hard, but you won't let anybody else hit your brother.

Those who support the "eye for an eye", I wonder what would they do if they were given the opportunity to shot the terrorist without any legal implication, even the victim's relatives. When you have a human life in front of you and you have the power to take it away, with your cold blood, you have to realize that taking that life away won't bring another life back, and I doubt it will make you feel better.

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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2009, 02:43:14 AM »
Those who support the "eye for an eye", I wonder what would they do if they were given the opportunity to shot the terrorist without any legal implication, even the victim's relatives. When you have a human life in front of you and you have the power to take it away, with your cold blood, you have to realize that taking that life away won't bring another life back, and I doubt it will make you feel better.

It's not about feeling better or bringing anyone back, some crimes are just so wrong that putting someone in prison is just not enough of a punishment. Why should anyone anywhere have to pay to put clothes on someone or feed them if that person only wishes for and plans for the opportunity to hurt or kill or distroy again.
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2009, 04:07:45 AM »
I'm all for returning him to Libya, just opening the door a few miles higher up than where they opened it for him.
That falling feeling may have given him some impression of the last moments of his victims. >:(
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